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[SC1]game is horrendously imba, get on this blizz

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avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
June 09 2010 19:45 GMT
#1
Disclaimer: this is meant to be a satirical post pointing out how in the last few patches of beta before it went down, there was massive whining and such going on rather than playing the game and letting it develop.

I re-dl'd SC1 to my laptop and played a game or two and blizzard really needs to do some things asap b4 this game goes downhill (you can already see this with Flash games, turtle 200/200 freewin because T mech is unstoppable vs Z!)

"How to fix T mech"
This needs to be fixed, I would post some example replays, but it is a known about issue.

Maybe I should be like a certain other thread in SC2 Beta and post a OP with 2 replays from a miniscule sample size compared to the entire rest of the beta and judge balance off of that. But sadly I do not have that luxury or arrogance.

It is impossible for Z to win late game. Once T gets their mech ball rolling, Zerg just loses. Everything they do dies to tank fire, and goliaths are too strong so there's no point in building mutalisks.

And don't tell me drops work, with all those comsat scans over and over and mines to spot, it's impossible to get a drop off into 5000 turrets that only cost 75 minerals.

And then late game, that viking/raven vesse cloud kills all muta so it is just impossible to do anything versus a turtling terran. This needs to be fixed asap before more progaming goes on or iccup games where a few guys turtle to 200/200 without attacking because it's just freewin for TvZ.

"Vultures are too powerful"
These things only cost 75 minerals and you get three free explosive devices that can take up to like 3-4x their cost in units and you can't even see them. How is this fair?

Arbiters need a nerf.

This is just pretty crazy. You can instantly have your army almost anywhere on the map from having 4+ arbiters. Do you realize how imbalanced that is? No other race can do this, and it's cheap to do too, and all your units get cloaked! Imagine SC2 with the ability to build more than 1 mother ship. Shivers....

Blizzard really needs to look at this and patch it, but on the other hand, Terran is imba because Flash plays it perfect so it's ok.

I don't know how this game ever got to be so good...Blizzard missed all these nerfs that were obvious. Bio STILL is not viable as standard in tvp, did blizzard miss this? The game must be broken, and tanks should be nerfed some so bio is more viable. It's just tank tank tank.

Maybe if we whine enough, blizzard will nerf siege tanks in 1.17? We can even post a few select replays as evidence and make a 30 page whine thread about it rather than exhaust all other possible solutions...it's just impossible for Zerg/Protoss to beat that tank ball.

All top players know this, especially all of rootz x17 clan that have extensively tested it by themselves in their own practice games.

I dunno man, I'm trying to get back into brood war, but it seems blizzard needs to balance all this stuff that is too powerful pretty soon or the game is gonna end up trash.





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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 09 2010 19:54 GMT
#2
I can't see posts like this as anything other than trolling. Yeah, you said it is satire. But the premise behind this "satire", is implying that BW is as balanced as SC2, which just isn't true.
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avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
June 09 2010 19:56 GMT
#3
On June 10 2010 04:54 Sentenal wrote:
I can't see posts like this as anything other than trolling. Yeah, you said it is satire. But the premise behind this "satire", is implying that BW is as balanced as SC2, which just isn't true.


wait what? are you implying SC2 is already as balanced as bw? lol?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 09 2010 19:56 GMT
#4
I think this does a better job of parodying the types of whining posts people have made than satirising the actual state of the game.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-09 19:59:37
June 09 2010 19:57 GMT
#5
Ofcourse I agree, this has been said many times and Blizzard clearly isn't approaching the right way to balance this game, but hey, how would you do it. In my opinion alot of balancing of StarCraft was quite lucky struck, the only way I see SC2 balancing out is if you let each patch play out for a long time that it is analyzed alot and counters are found. Ofcourse if SC1 would be coming out everyone would be whining about Dark Swarm for example, but as it is right now, for some reason all races can be played with the same play style so theres a problem.

SC2 mech may be strong but not too many counters have been tried, from all VODs I seen everyone tries to engage it at some point, it's like in SC1 someone makes tanks off two base and you try to break it just by attacking with alot of goons. Mech no longer is quite as mobile as in SC1 due to no vultures but may be more efficient due to the fact that all the maps are and feel smaller.

[EDIT] How do you know SC2 isn't balanced to all the haters? Very well might be. How long did it take for SC1 players to find a revolutionary build such as forge fe in ZvP? In my opinion there is still a way to go. Theres many more things to be figured out in SC2.
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da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
June 09 2010 19:57 GMT
#6
On June 10 2010 04:54 Sentenal wrote:
I can't see posts like this as anything other than trolling. Yeah, you said it is satire. But the premise behind this "satire", is implying that BW is as balanced as SC2, which just isn't true.

he's not saying that sc2 is as balanced as bw. he's merely implying that sometimes people just need to let the meta game evolve and at least attempt to try out different strategies instead of bitching about imbalance. as day9 eloquently put, stop acting like developers and start acting like players. there is no such thing as imbalance.
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avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
June 09 2010 20:01 GMT
#7
On June 10 2010 04:57 da_head wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2010 04:54 Sentenal wrote:
I can't see posts like this as anything other than trolling. Yeah, you said it is satire. But the premise behind this "satire", is implying that BW is as balanced as SC2, which just isn't true.

he's not saying that sc2 is as balanced as bw. he's merely implying that sometimes people just need to let the meta game evolve and at least attempt to try out different strategies instead of bitching about imbalance. as day9 eloquently put, stop acting like developers and start acting like players. there is no such thing as imbalance.


BINGO!!!!!! WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!
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selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
June 09 2010 20:02 GMT
#8
Ohhh I see what you're doing. You're taking the SC2 whining and turning it around and showing how it could be applied to Broodwar... I see, I see. At first I thought you were actually suggesting nerfs to said units and crying imbalance like a WoW player.
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
June 09 2010 20:12 GMT
#9
I see what you did there.

Liking the satire. I too feel that a lot of people are just bitching and complaining too much.
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
June 09 2010 20:14 GMT
#10
On June 10 2010 04:45 avilo wrote:
All top players know this, especially all of rootz x17 clan that have extensively tested it by themselves in their own practice games.
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Leg[end]
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States241 Posts
June 09 2010 20:19 GMT
#11
On June 10 2010 04:54 Sentenal wrote:
I can't see posts like this as anything other than trolling. Yeah, you said it is satire. But the premise behind this "satire", is implying that BW is as balanced as SC2, which just isn't true.


Incorrect.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10872 Posts
June 09 2010 20:24 GMT
#12
wow sad....
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YoureFired
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States822 Posts
June 09 2010 20:25 GMT
#13
I like the point you are making.
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
June 09 2010 20:30 GMT
#14
On June 10 2010 05:01 avilo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2010 04:57 da_head wrote:
On June 10 2010 04:54 Sentenal wrote:
I can't see posts like this as anything other than trolling. Yeah, you said it is satire. But the premise behind this "satire", is implying that BW is as balanced as SC2, which just isn't true.

he's not saying that sc2 is as balanced as bw. he's merely implying that sometimes people just need to let the meta game evolve and at least attempt to try out different strategies instead of bitching about imbalance. as day9 eloquently put, stop acting like developers and start acting like players. there is no such thing as imbalance.


BINGO!!!!!! WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!


yepper.
all the imba whiners in sc2.. the truth is the only imbalance here is coming from your underdeveloped inner ear you uncoordinated ball of gay
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WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
June 09 2010 20:31 GMT
#15
this isnt even funny.
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
June 09 2010 20:34 GMT
#16
On June 10 2010 05:24 TelecOm1 wrote:
wow sad....


whats sad? what do you mean? Or are you just spamming blogs to add to your post count?

On June 10 2010 05:31 OneFierceZealot wrote:
this isnt even funny.


neither are the tons of retarded sc2 imba threads that populate these forums, yet they keep popping up in mass doses. At least this one gives you an idea that it's not always the game thats imbalanced, but rather the low level gamers that play it.
Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
June 09 2010 20:34 GMT
#17
how you know your joke post is bad:

you have to point out its a joke post before you make it

its not funny, and just because you're so incredibly butthurt about mech getting nerfed you have to make a "joke" post about brood war to try and prove how right you are about balance?

you are the most self righteous poster with the worst opinions
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
June 09 2010 20:35 GMT
#18
On June 10 2010 04:57 da_head wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2010 04:54 Sentenal wrote:
I can't see posts like this as anything other than trolling. Yeah, you said it is satire. But the premise behind this "satire", is implying that BW is as balanced as SC2, which just isn't true.

he's not saying that sc2 is as balanced as bw. he's merely implying that sometimes people just need to let the meta game evolve and at least attempt to try out different strategies instead of bitching about imbalance. as day9 eloquently put, stop acting like developers and start acting like players. there is no such thing as imbalance.


Unfortunately there's a lot less room for the game to evolve than there was with BW. That's why I really have trouble relating to these comparisons. I've said it a number of times, but the skill level of top players on day 1 of SC2 beta was far higher than the skill level of anyone playing BW for the first few years.

After all, a large part of the balance of BW was not direct balancing, not strategical metagame shifts, but the fact that no matter how 'good' you were, someone could always improve beyond your current skill level. In fact, given the same skill, there are many points in which the game is terribly out of balance. For instance, despite being a Terran player, I know for a fact I could hold a winning record over myself PvT. At my skill level, it's just a lot easier for me to do well PvT than TvP. Still, at an even lower level of play, protoss can find it nearly impossible to break even badly conceived terran pushes (or attack into anything tank-related for that instance). Those players can eventually get to the point when PvT becomes much easier, and then perhaps start approaching the pro level where the matchup might seem much more balanced.

In contrast, how much room is there really to improve in SC2?
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Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
June 09 2010 20:37 GMT
#19
I agree that whining constantly is annoying and doesn't help, but bashing one of the threads that actually had a logical argument in it is stupid.
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wiesel
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany727 Posts
June 09 2010 20:53 GMT
#20
neither are the tons of retarded sc2 imba threads that populate these forums, yet they keep popping up in mass doses. At least this one gives you an idea that it's not always the game thats imbalanced, but rather the low level gamers that play it.

haha i tell you this will never stop. This is a whole new generation of RTS gamers. They cry imba as soon as they can, it's like a sport.
You will have the same threads here in about 2 years, definately even if the game would be 100% balanced.
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