EPTHis dreams of a golden mouse and double-league victory may never be attained, all that is left to earn is revenge.
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mmp
United States2130 Posts
His dreams of a golden mouse and double-league victory may never be attained, all that is left to earn is revenge. [blink]> REVENGE>[/blink] (what, no blink tags? what is this, the dark ages?) | ||
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Effort_FTW
United States79 Posts
On May 23 2010 06:24 mmp wrote: Flash was supposed to own Effort, get his golden mouse, then lose to JDong again. His dreams of a golden mouse and double-league victory may never be attained, all that is left to earn is revenge. [blink]> REVENGE>[/blink] (what, no blink tags? what is this, the dark ages?)Cheesy blink tags were a part of the dark ages. | ||
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mmp
United States2130 Posts
On May 23 2010 06:25 Effort_FTW wrote: Cheesy blink tags were a part of the dark ages. Wrong, they were a part of the Internet's Middle Ages. Then the Enlightenment came and the W3C deprecated them, but they're still displayed in most browsers. | ||
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Cheeseburgered
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ClanOverdosed
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IntoTheWow
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On May 23 2010 06:23 PH wrote: effort luckboxed like none other. Flash was careless for two seconds in game three at a time where it shouldn't have even mattered and he wouldn't normally have had to have been careful which lost him the game. Effort's lings just happened to be at the right place. Then Flash basically threw that next game, trying to cheese with that stupid BBS. It was over from the start. There was nothing interesting about that game, just effort's extraordinary luck in sending his overlord to the cross position. The last game saw effort abusing the fact that flash would most definitely play safe and standard in the last set. It was a great move that worked out for him. There was nothing particularly special about this series. The first two sets showed just how great Flash is, the third and fourth showed how a bit of bad luck can completely screw over even the best player in the world, and the fifth set showed once again that Flash can be pretty predictable. LOL Luckboxed hahahahahahahaahhaahhahahahaahahahahah | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On May 23 2010 07:21 IntoTheWow wrote: LOL Luckboxed hahahahahahahaahhaahhahahahaahahahahah Yeah I think Flash is easily the better player and it's true that game 1 and 2 impressed me more in the solidness of the victories, but you have to hand it to effort, he played smart and he played well. I think saying he 'got lucky' from sending an overlord to scout for cheese is a bit rich. And Flash cheesing and it going wrong is hardly a mistake. It didn't work - he lost. If he'd won he'd be being praised for it ;p. I wouldn't take away Flash's awesome scans by putting them down to luck and I don't think Effort's intuitive and superior play in games 3-5 should be discounted lightly as luck either. | ||
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Hittegods
Stockholm4642 Posts
Effort's lings just happened to be at the right place. You actually believe that? Like seriously? "Oops built too many lings, I'll just keep them a small distance away from the number of lings a zerg usually would have" | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
What Flash is doing is very interesting. He's dispelling a myth. In terms of mechanics, practice partners have been getting closer and closer and closer to the S-class players for years. So when you get down to it, the skill gap has been shrinking. But something else has been counter-balancing this: metagame. This game is getting better and better understood all the time. Once upon a time, it was relatively easy even for S-class players to succumb to unknown strategies. Hell, Anytime's OSL run in SO1 was proof of that. But that ability to do that has been shrinking. Build orders get more and more and more refined so that the better player is more and more and more guaranteed to win. Flash's fundamentals are absurd. This reminds me of watching NaDa back in like 2001/2002. That's why Flash's win percentages are so outrageously high. People often compare Flash to Oov, but actually that comparison is totally wrong. Oov's fundamentals never were the best (his strengths were in other areas), but that's where Flash excels. That's not to say that Flash is bad at the other stuff (he isn't), but that he's so good because he can get more out of the same build order and the same strategy than anybody else. He'll have a bigger army because he's able to defend against the muta harass just slightly better, spending just slightly less on turrets. That kind of thing. That's a huge, huge part of what we call "skill." But don't confuse perfect fundamentals with perfection itself. It's silly to get disappointed because of "OMG HE LOST!" As far as I'm concerned, the OSL/MSL finals (especially the MSL finals against rival Jaedong) are the most important stroke in securing bonjwahood. Flash has not yet received coronation, but still may yet. Only it will be slightly more difficult to achieve than before. | ||
swanized
Canada2480 Posts
On May 23 2010 06:23 PH wrote: effort luckboxed like none other. Flash was careless for two seconds in game three at a time where it shouldn't have even mattered and he wouldn't normally have had to have been careful which lost him the game. Effort's lings just happened to be at the right place. Then Flash basically threw that next game, trying to cheese with that stupid BBS. It was over from the start. There was nothing interesting about that game, just effort's extraordinary luck in sending his overlord to the cross position. The last game saw effort abusing the fact that flash would most definitely play safe and standard in the last set. It was a great move that worked out for him. There was nothing particularly special about this series. The first two sets showed just how great Flash is, the third and fourth showed how a bit of bad luck can completely screw over even the best player in the world, and the fifth set showed once again that Flash can be pretty predictable. game 3: that was a perfect example of what Day9 calss a potential advantage.Effort got his lings there so that if Flash moved he would win. it was perfectly played by effort and poorly done by FlaSh. You can't say Effort got lucky, you can say FlaSh did not play smart instead.Effort did not happen to be at the right place, Effort was at the right place in a very calculated manner. Game 4: Again you know when Day9 says that it is smart play to send your overlord in the middle of the map to check proxies and then send it to a main. That's what Effort did. he did not happen to be lucky and scout cross positions. Again it was a very calculated move.(he even said so in interview if you don't believe me) Game 5: well very well played by effort. Effort did not get lucky in these finals they were perfectly calculated wins... and as someone said above, Flash is not to be blamed for cheesing. he's trying to not be predictable and that's perfectly fine, sadly it did not work out but we ewould be calling him a baller and a genius if it had worked. | ||
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
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hoppipolla
Australia782 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
On May 23 2010 06:23 PH wrote: effort luckboxed like none other. Flash was careless for two seconds in game three at a time where it shouldn't have even mattered and he wouldn't normally have had to have been careful which lost him the game. Effort's lings just happened to be at the right place. Then Flash basically threw that next game, trying to cheese with that stupid BBS. It was over from the start. There was nothing interesting about that game, just effort's extraordinary luck in sending his overlord to the cross position. The last game saw effort abusing the fact that flash would most definitely play safe and standard in the last set. It was a great move that worked out for him. There was nothing particularly special about this series. The first two sets showed just how great Flash is, the third and fourth showed how a bit of bad luck can completely screw over even the best player in the world, and the fifth set showed once again that Flash can be pretty predictable. Luck? Maybe a bit. But not all that you're talking about. Hmm dude you should read the interview. | ||
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
Voldemort It doesn't help at all that flash has to face off against the other case for GOAT.Undoubtedly the greatest series player in history. With all that said, flash has been hovering around 2400 ELO on BAD days.... Not even Jaedong or Bisu on their very best streaks, during the crest of their respective eras could even come close to BREAKING 2400. And....lastly, flash is still only in his 3rd year as a progammer. JD in his 4th. Progammers and bonjwas typically peak at years 3 and 4. The only thing stopping flash from attaining a platinum badge and mouse in the next two years is the other one. After flash's unprecedented dominance these past six months, I think Jaedong will be as hungry as ever. He definitely wants as stab at getting back to back dual finals  | ||
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