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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10444 Posts
May 12 2010 12:27 GMT
#21
If your main goal is not getting hit in the face with the ball then you probably shouldn't try playing soccer. Then you can't even use your hands to defend yourself and people will be kicking the ball right in front of you. It's hard getting hit in the face with the ball in basketball assuming you know how to catch.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
May 12 2010 12:48 GMT
#22
Well at least you're playing with friends, back in school you use to have to watch out for balls to your balls while others would sneak up behind you to yank your shorts down, not a fun time when your PE teacher is a stupid lesbian who spends her time mucking around on a laptop instead of watching the class.

Not exaggerating by the way, went to a pretty "chavvy" school, which you'll understand if you're British.
No I'm never serious.
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-12 12:57:02
May 12 2010 12:54 GMT
#23
Gopnik > Scotland chav > England chav

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopnik
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Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
May 12 2010 13:11 GMT
#24
The best kid at basketball at my high school was about 5'6"

If you'd put an hour a day of your free time into developing basic basketball skills, you'd be better than average before long.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
May 12 2010 13:19 GMT
#25
On May 12 2010 19:54 Luddite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2010 19:50 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
aren't people who suck at basketball typically discouraged from playing? I mean who wants a sucky player on his team? If you're so terrible I have a hard time understanding why your friends are exerting such inexorable pressure on you to play. They're probably just being polite and hoping you decline. Do everyone a favor and do so.

Everyone in my department plays together. It's a group activity. If I didn't play I'd be the only one not playing, just sitting in the office by myself and it would be really weird. And I'm not the only one who's bad, actually most of the players are bad. It's just that there's like 3 or 4 good players who completely decide the game.


welcome to almost all non professional playing of sports?

Though I've usually been on the better end of this for sports I've played, even when it's competitive unless you're playing with the best of the best (and even at the professional level) there's always going to be comparatively bad people, and really good players that embarrass everyone else and practically decide the games
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Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
May 12 2010 13:27 GMT
#26
On May 12 2010 22:11 Biochemist wrote:
The best kid at basketball at my high school was about 5'6"

If you'd put an hour a day of your free time into developing basic basketball skills, you'd be better than average before long.

Yeah i'm definitely not going to spend an hour a day practicing. That would be... pretty much all my free time lol.

and there's one guy I play with who has extremely good speed and ball handling skills, but he's about 5'6" and he's constantly owned by tall guys whenever he gets near the basket.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-12 13:36:11
May 12 2010 13:29 GMT
#27
all it sounds like is that you're bad and you're tired of losing. lets be serious now, obviously your understanding of the game is thoroughly limited and you're just tired of losing. If you take the game at face value, then all games are stupid and simple. ohoho starcraft is one dimensional and stupid, all you do is make units and kill shit.

basketball is a five man sport; the point guards are not supposed to match up to the taller players. they can easily take taller players if they are farther from the rim, but they dont have to get rebounds over them. its just stupid to say "oh the taller guy is better because he gets rebounds over short people". thats the whole point of the taller players, they have different roles. teams are not 5 of your tallest players because you need those shorter ball-handlers to make plays and do those things.
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lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
May 12 2010 13:43 GMT
#28
Street bball does have a ton of charging which no one calls because they don't want to look like a pussy. Unfortunately it's just a part of playing bball in some places.
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
May 12 2010 14:02 GMT
#29
Yeah I guess it would be better if we had 5 man teams with designated positions and a ref to enforce the rules. Unfortunately it's usually just 3 on 3, call your own fouls, so the power charge to the paint seems unstoppable. Oh, and we also play with the rule that, if you make a basket you get the ball back again. I'd never heard of that rule before.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
May 12 2010 14:16 GMT
#30
I figured this was for PE class or something. If you hate basketball so much and are unwilling to devote the time to get better, why play at all? I was in a similar position to you 10 or so years ago, so I just always played soccer instead because I was much better at it.
dogabutila
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1437 Posts
May 12 2010 14:34 GMT
#31
So you guys pretty much play standard street ball. I suggest highly illegal and cheap but prevalent streetball tactics such as undercutting, and hand-checking. Doing so will give you a significant advantage. Dont undercut too hard though or you could seriously hurt somebody.

Handchecking is important on defense in games where charging is not called. It allows you to control your opponent. Don't abuse it to actually push them out of their path, just use it to encourage them to move to the basket in a path not straight through you.
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Creme
Profile Joined May 2010
United States21 Posts
May 12 2010 14:48 GMT
#32
If you want to just "coast" by then learn how to pass really well, your teammates will love you and you will look like a great basketball player without doing much of anything. Being a good passer puts them in a great position to make shots. And everyone loves being the one who scores.

Then I'd probably transition to working on defense or rebounding. For defense practice shuffling your feet and ALWAYS look at your opponents chest when you're guarding him, never his feet or face.

For rebounding just jump for the rim any chance you get, it will improve your leg conditioning and your vertical if you keep at it. And you might end up out-rebounding the taller players for the lulz.
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
May 12 2010 14:53 GMT
#33
On May 12 2010 23:34 dogabutila wrote:
So you guys pretty much play standard street ball. I suggest highly illegal and cheap but prevalent streetball tactics such as undercutting, and hand-checking. Doing so will give you a significant advantage. Dont undercut too hard though or you could seriously hurt somebody.

Handchecking is important on defense in games where charging is not called. It allows you to control your opponent. Don't abuse it to actually push them out of their path, just use it to encourage them to move to the basket in a path not straight through you.

ooohh... dirty tricks to get better without practice? sounds like just what i wanted! what is "undercutting"?
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
May 12 2010 14:57 GMT
#34
On May 12 2010 23:34 dogabutila wrote:
So you guys pretty much play standard street ball. I suggest highly illegal and cheap but prevalent streetball tactics such as undercutting, and hand-checking. Doing so will give you a significant advantage. Dont undercut too hard though or you could seriously hurt somebody.

Handchecking is important on defense in games where charging is not called. It allows you to control your opponent. Don't abuse it to actually push them out of their path, just use it to encourage them to move to the basket in a path not straight through you.


I didn't know what undercutting was but I now realize that I've been called out on this. But in my specific situation the guy I was defending was probably 4+ inches taller than me. So all I could do was box him out. To me if I have a large ass he shouldn't be trying to jump over me to rebound. I remember this instance vividly because I got pretty pissed off that he was complaining that I was undercutting with him having a huge height advantage, and in my defense I said I was simply boxing him out (I did not shuffle my feet to try to get under him to make him fall on me).

I do agree with the OP, regardless of the skill gap between players, that (street/pickup) bball can be frustrating as heck to play when the players don't have an agreed set of rules. That's why I like playing with/against ppl I know rather than random players.
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
May 12 2010 15:01 GMT
#35
On May 12 2010 23:48 Creme wrote:
If you want to just "coast" by then learn how to pass really well, your teammates will love you and you will look like a great basketball player without doing much of anything. Being a good passer puts them in a great position to make shots. And everyone loves being the one who scores.

Then I'd probably transition to working on defense or rebounding. For defense practice shuffling your feet and ALWAYS look at your opponents chest when you're guarding him, never his feet or face.

For rebounding just jump for the rim any chance you get, it will improve your leg conditioning and your vertical if you keep at it. And you might end up out-rebounding the taller players for the lulz.


Heh in general my friends who play bball regularly have told me that the best way to get better on a team is learn how to shoot. If the opposing team knows you're not going to shoot at all then it becomes pretty easy to let you shoot and really shut down your teammates who can shoot.

I don't disagree that passing and ballhandling are important though.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-12 16:51:30
May 12 2010 16:43 GMT
#36
Edit: Oh shit I read baseball lol

well.. basketball is kinda fun :O
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KingofHearts
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Japan562 Posts
May 12 2010 20:07 GMT
#37
basketball is fun to watch but not so fun to play. i love watching the nba during michael jordan's era.
moshi moshi~
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
May 12 2010 20:09 GMT
#38
Yeah, playing pick up basketball is only fun if you're really good b/c there isn't a lot of teamwork going on. When I play, I like to set plays with each other by setting off screen balls for teammates and then get open. Don't hate the game, hate the player Keep practicing
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
May 12 2010 21:12 GMT
#39
You are probably unathletic lol
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
daz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada643 Posts
May 12 2010 21:25 GMT
#40
On May 12 2010 19:41 Luddite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2010 18:45 daz wrote:
I'm not sure if you're trolling or what but I hope you are otherwise thats one of the stupidest things I've read this month. It pretty much reads like "I'm bad at X game and I don't understand it so I'm just gonna call it a stupid game and whine like a girl instead of A) trying to learn the game or B) not playing it."

it's more like- i hate the game, and i know i'm bad at it. I have no desire to practice and become good, but I can't just avoid playing it without alienating a lot of my friends. I guess in canada no one plays basketball though, so you wouldn't understand. Try to imagine that you were shoved into an ice hockey team instead, but with no training or experience in the game, and you're just trying to pick it up as you go.


I play basketball. And I don't play hockey. If my friends invite me to play hockey, I politely refuse. I don't go to online message boards and rant about how hockey sucks and has no strategy involved.
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