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blabber
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card,2569.html make sure your power supply unit is good enough to run a powerful video card | ||
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CaucasianAsian
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FragKrag
United States11546 Posts
If you want to be able to run 3 monitors, you should consider ATi Eyefinity! $100 is overkill for a HTPC card, but will be enough for an Eyefinity supporting card. The Sapphire 5570 at $90 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102875 is the cheapest Eyefinity card, and I think it will suit your needs perfectly fine. It performs a bit above the 4670 in terms of gaming, so you can also run SC2 if you want (medium-high graphics). There are also some cheap ATi 5670s out there that will also run Eyefinity. I would suggest one of these if you want to run SC2 at high smoothly, but they are not needed for video playback. It is a higher performer than the 5570. ASUS @ $95 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121368 HIS @ $84 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161319 At the low end performing (IE won't run SC2 very well at medium) is the ATi HD 5450. I'm not quite sure if it actually supports 3 monitors (since the 3rd monitor requires a Display Port), but it should do two monitors just fine. Numerous models around $50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=5450&x=0&y=0 | ||
LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
I have a friend who built a pc last summer (2.5k budget) and bought three of those. He's set for the next decade and a half. edit: oh shit sorry under 100. hmm that makes it no fun. ![]() well I can answer the power supply question. open your computer and see how much watt output it provides and then when your browsing video cards it will tell you how much minimum power supply you need. | ||
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CaucasianAsian
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FragKrag
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CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11570 Posts
On April 07 2010 13:03 LuckyFool wrote: well I can answer the power supply question. open your computer and see how much watt output it provides and then when your browsing video cards it will tell you how much minimum power supply you need. maybe i'm mentally retarded, but when i open my computer it's just a bunch of wires and stuff that i have no idea what does what. I just know that if I'm installing a new hard-drive then i remove the one that looks similar and replace it. ![]() Or do you mean that it tells you in the 'My Computer' program thing? On April 07 2010 13:08 FragKrag wrote: None of the cards I recommended needs more than 75W so you should be fine either way. ahh ok ty! | ||
FragKrag
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Mickey
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
a good video card can help a bad CPU play videos better, but a good CPU doesn't need a good video card to play videos smoothly | ||
LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
On April 07 2010 13:09 CaucasianAsian wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2010 13:03 LuckyFool wrote: well I can answer the power supply question. open your computer and see how much watt output it provides and then when your browsing video cards it will tell you how much minimum power supply you need. maybe i'm mentally retarded, but when i open my computer it's just a bunch of wires and stuff that i have no idea what does what. I just know that if I'm installing a new hard-drive then i remove the one that looks similar and replace it. ![]() Or do you mean that it tells you in the 'My Computer' program thing? Show nested quote + On April 07 2010 13:08 FragKrag wrote: None of the cards I recommended needs more than 75W so you should be fine either way. ahh ok ty! I meant physically opening the computer and checking the sticker on the power supply. it usually tells you there how much W output it provides. most are like in the 250-400W range I believe. you might also be able to check from the bios setup screen when you first turn on your computer on as well. I don't know of any windows tools that let you check your power supply info. | ||
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CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11570 Posts
On April 07 2010 13:12 udgnim wrote: what's your CPU? a good video card can help a bad CPU play videos better, but a good CPU doesn't need a good video card to play videos smoothly I have no idea, it's a quadcore processor if that's what you're asking. | ||
StorrZerg
United States13916 Posts
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CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11570 Posts
On April 07 2010 13:14 LuckyFool wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2010 13:09 CaucasianAsian wrote: On April 07 2010 13:03 LuckyFool wrote: well I can answer the power supply question. open your computer and see how much watt output it provides and then when your browsing video cards it will tell you how much minimum power supply you need. maybe i'm mentally retarded, but when i open my computer it's just a bunch of wires and stuff that i have no idea what does what. I just know that if I'm installing a new hard-drive then i remove the one that looks similar and replace it. ![]() Or do you mean that it tells you in the 'My Computer' program thing? On April 07 2010 13:08 FragKrag wrote: None of the cards I recommended needs more than 75W so you should be fine either way. ahh ok ty! I meant physically opening the computer and checking the sticker on the power supply. it usually tells you there how much W output it provides. most are like in the 250-400W range I believe. you might also be able to check from the bios setup screen when you first turn on your computer on as well. I don't know of any windows tools that let you check your power supply info. gotchya. next time i'm home i'll check it out. | ||
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StorrZerg
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CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11570 Posts
It plays fine, just it gets really pixelated at times (when a bunch of semi-large boxes throughout the video blur together) | ||
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CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11570 Posts
On April 07 2010 13:19 StorrZerg wrote: well he needs a new card ne ways if he ever wants to play beta ![]() my laptop can play it pretty well ![]() | ||
FragKrag
United States11546 Posts
then again, you probably need it for extra monitors anyways... | ||
LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
If it's skipping parts of the movie or something I would try a different player (VLC, Mplayer DivX etc) and update video codecs and drivers to the latest just to be sure its video card problems and not anything else. | ||
mahnini
United States6862 Posts
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Railz
United States1449 Posts
Either way, I use a GTS250 overclocked if you're still in the market for one. It can run 1600 x 900 | ||
FragKrag
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KingofHearts
Japan562 Posts
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
Find your price and then go up the list until you hit the price you want 4650 < 4670 ~ 3850 < 3870 < 4830 ~ 5670 < 4770 < 4850 ~ 5750 < 4870 ~ 5770 | ||
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CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11570 Posts
On April 07 2010 16:20 Railz wrote: Video cards don't really effect effect video - It is mostly ram and bottleneck speeds on the motherboard (or even the player) Either way, I use a GTS250 overclocked if you're still in the market for one. It can run 1600 x 900 1600 x 900 is too small, i want something that can support at least 2 monitors at 1900x1200 | ||
Sadistx
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On April 07 2010 13:03 LuckyFool wrote: I have a friend who built a pc last summer (2.5k budget) and bought three of those. He's set for the next decade and a half. It will be completely obsolete in 4 years. | ||
CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On April 07 2010 13:23 FragKrag wrote: Try using Mplayer, Media Player Classic, or VLC player. I'm not convinced that you actually need a new graphics card just for movie watching. then again, you probably need it for extra monitors anyways... No, when you have a bad card and you watch HD shit, it will load really slow and if you try and skip around or your card is struggling to play it it skips or lags or whatever. On April 07 2010 15:01 mahnini wrote: i stopped using VLC because it lags for HD stuffs What do you use instead? | ||
AyeH
United States534 Posts
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AyeH
United States534 Posts
On April 08 2010 03:56 Boblion wrote: Show nested quote + On April 07 2010 13:03 LuckyFool wrote: I have a friend who built a pc last summer (2.5k budget) and bought three of those. He's set for the next decade and a half. It will be completely obsolete in 4 years. I have a laptop I bought 5 years ago during my sophomore year of HS. I thought it would become obsolete. Funny thing is it runs every game I throw at it (except Crysis because even some GPUs nowadays cant handle Crysis). Sure, they'll be much better technology but the old tech will still do work. | ||
Sere
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Not sure how it will run SC2, but I'm running fine on Medium settings with my three year old integrated card, so I'd guess it will run it on High. | ||
Boblion
France8043 Posts
On April 08 2010 06:13 G4T0R4D3 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 08 2010 03:56 Boblion wrote: On April 07 2010 13:03 LuckyFool wrote: I have a friend who built a pc last summer (2.5k budget) and bought three of those. He's set for the next decade and a half. It will be completely obsolete in 4 years. I have a laptop I bought 5 years ago during my sophomore year of HS. I thought it would become obsolete. Funny thing is it runs every game I throw at it (except Crysis because even some GPUs nowadays cant handle Crysis). Sure, they'll be much better technology but the old tech will still do work. Maybe you should try the really recent games ( Metro 2033 for example ). Also being obsolete doesn't mean poor performances only. In four years i think that Dx11 will be really a new standard and maybe they will have released Dx12. Moreover the average gaming card will have better performance and 1/3 of the consumption of this triple SLI. + The resolution on a laptop isn't the same than on your average deskstop screen ![]() Just make a comparison between a 5850 and 3x GeForce79xx from 2006. This kind of rigs look great for people who have a lot of money but they are definitly not the best cost / Performance / durability / TDP choices | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On April 08 2010 06:13 G4T0R4D3 wrote: Funny thing is it runs every game I throw at it (except Crysis because even some GPUs nowadays cant handle Crysis). Try this. http://www.incrysis.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=18999 | ||
FragKrag
United States11546 Posts
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AyeH
United States534 Posts
On April 08 2010 07:31 FragKrag wrote: Should probably err away from Gatorade's advice because he is a bit of a fanboy himself. Gatorade you do realize that Nvidia cards don't have eyefinity, and therefore don't run 3 monitors? How am I a fanboy when I am telling him to review both sides, not just one side? Did I tell him to go buy a Nvidia card like you? No. Did I list a feature of Nvidia that I am using to sway his purchase? No. If I were a fanboy, I would be bashing ATI and saying that they suck. Am I doing that? No. And do you realize that Nvidia cards are also capable of running multiple monitors? No. And your advice is to just go buy whatever you listed huh? And that's a better advice than me saying to go look at your options? I certainly do not think so. To the OP. Look at both ATI and Nvidia then choose. Don't just go with ATI because a fanboy tells you what to buy. | ||
FragKrag
United States11546 Posts
![]() Nvidia cards are indeed capable of running 2 monitors, but not the 3 that ATI Eyefinity allows flawlessly. Nvidia does not even support DisplayPort on their GPUs at the moment. (I think the GTX 4xx series will support them, but the reference model does not have a DisplayPort out) The complete lack of features that would be useful to him (does he need PhysX or CUDA? No!) in a Nvidia card vs the features in an ATI card means he should go with ATI. If he was savvy enough to 'consider' both sides, then he probably wouldn't need our help in the first place. You come into this thread and instantly pop off a 'fanboy' remark because you have no idea what the graphics card market looks like. If you honestly think 3x GTX 285 in SLI is a good purchase, I have nothing else to say. | ||
LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
I recently purchased the NVIDIA Geforce 9800 GT. ![]() Will this be okay for SC2/HoN/newer games? | ||
FragKrag
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
On April 08 2010 08:49 FragKrag wrote: Yeah, it'll be perfectly fine at medium/high for SC2. Thanks. Hey man, I don't care what the other guys say about you. You're alright in my book. | ||
AyeH
United States534 Posts
On April 08 2010 08:46 FragKrag wrote: That statement of course, was based on a previous discussion, Gatorade ![]() Nvidia cards are indeed capable of running 2 monitors, but not the 3 that ATI Eyefinity allows flawlessly. Nvidia does not even support DisplayPort on their GPUs at the moment. (I think the GTX 4xx series will support them, but the reference model does not have a DisplayPort out) The complete lack of features that would be useful to him (does he need PhysX or CUDA? No!) in a Nvidia card vs the features in an ATI card means he should go with ATI. If he was savvy enough to 'consider' both sides, then he probably wouldn't need our help in the first place. You come into this thread and instantly pop off a 'fanboy' remark because you have no idea what the graphics card market looks like. If you honestly think 3x GTX 285 in SLI is a good purchase, I have nothing else to say. First of all, you are putting words into my mouth. When did I say that 3x285 was a good purchase? What the hell are you talking about? Did I EVER say that? No... I don't recall saying that. Also, if you read his first post, nowhere does he say I HAVE three monitors. That's something he is looking into the future to do. So a Nvidia GPU in this case can also work for him. And you say that I have no idea what the graphics card market looks like? Where does this outlandish hunch come from? I am currently aware that Nvidia just released the fastest single-gpu on the market (Just a solid fact. No fanboying here). And what the hell are you talking about Nvidia not supporting DisplayPort? They do support it. Go google it. All I said in my original post was for the OP to not be limited in his view just because people only brought up ATI in the first few posts. Then I explained why my initial post was not a fanboy statement. Then you start going crazy like a normal fanboy and naming all the shit that ATI has that the OP doesn't currently need. Does he need DisplayPort at the moment? No. Does he need Eyeinifinity at the moment? No. And to be honest, he will probably never push it past two monitors. I'm not a fanboy, but you obviously are. | ||
FragKrag
United States11546 Posts
The reason we only brought up ATI is because ATI is cheaper and has advantages like Eyefinity that make it more relevant. If he is thinking of adding a 3rd monitor, who are you to say he isn't? Nvidia 4xx does support DisplayPort, but not on the reference designs which have no DisplayPort Out, and it will take at least a couple months for nonreference designs to appear (maybe earlier, since the gtx 4xx series really does seem to need some better cooling :<) I must have read that 3x gtx 285 from somewhere else though, my bad. It seems like you love to call people fanboys, but you are just accusing me of something I am not! I have supported the GTX 470 quite a bit, and I actually want the card, but as anybody who is in the current graphics card market knows, ATI has much better mid-end and low-end cards on the market at the moment. It would take a Nvidia fanboy to deny that. | ||
AyeH
United States534 Posts
On April 08 2010 09:25 FragKrag wrote: Yeah, a paper release, which means absolutely nothing! Those gpus do not even support 3 monitors without SLi, so what good does that do? A card that essentially does not exist until April 12th and will be far too expensive for him to buy does not make any impact on what he plans to buy. Thanks for bringing up irrelevant information. The reason we only brought up ATI is because ATI is cheaper and has advantages like Eyefinity that make it more relevant. If he is thinking of adding a 3rd monitor, who are you to say he isn't? Nvidia 4xx does support DisplayPort, but not on the reference designs which have no DisplayPort Out, and it will take at least a couple months for nonreference designs to appear (maybe earlier, since the gtx 4xx series really does seem to need some better cooling :<) I must have read that 3x gtx 285 from somewhere else though, my bad. It seems like you love to call people fanboys, but you are just accusing me of something I am not! I have supported the GTX 470 quite a bit, and I actually want the card, but as anybody who is in the current graphics card market knows, ATI has much better mid-end and low-end cards on the market at the moment. It would take a Nvidia fanboy to deny that. He is thinking of adding a third monitor to play Starcraft, poker, and watch movies all at the same time. That makes a lot of sense... | ||
FragKrag
United States11546 Posts
If his reason was completely terrible, maybe, but having 3 monitors is actually quite amazing. I have a friend with a 3 monitor setup running off of a HD 5750 and it is very very impressive. | ||
AyeH
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FragKrag
United States11546 Posts
are you the same as him? | ||
KOFgokuon
United States14892 Posts
if he wants to do that then go him | ||
Judicator
United States7270 Posts
KMP is a precursor of sorts to the GomTV Player, think the guy who started it originally switched over to Gom. I use 9 monitors, I want to feel I am in cockpit when I play Crysis. | ||
FragKrag
United States11546 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On April 08 2010 11:46 FragKrag wrote: how do you get over 1 fps in Crysis with 9 monitors To be honest, someone did this with the new Eyefinity series, and they had about 15-30 fps depending on what was going on in game. Not to sidetrack this thread more so, Eyefinity isn't worth it for gaming since the bevels aren't good enough to produce seamless images across monitors. | ||
AyeH
United States534 Posts
On April 08 2010 11:11 KOFgokuon wrote: who the fuck are you to judge what he's going to do with 3 monitors? if he wants to do that then go him lol are you fragkrag's sidekick or something? oh noes! idk if i can take a 1v2. lol, to be completely honest and using my common sense, he will never get the three monitors because he prolly won't use two that often considering all he said he does is play poker, sc, and watch movies on the comp. so why don't you try using your logic too? will you really need 3 monitors just to do those three things? and i can judge whatever the fuck i want and you can't do shit about it. | ||
FragKrag
United States11546 Posts
1080p in one monitor IRC/Instant messengers/Vent/Music in one monitor You never know what you can do with the space until you actually have it. | ||
Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
On April 08 2010 13:07 FragKrag wrote: Browser in one monitor 1080p in one monitor IRC/Instant messengers/Vent/Music in one monitor You never know what you can do with the space until you actually have it. Alternatively 12 tables of poker 12 tables of poker 11 tables of poker + youporn. :-D | ||
leejas
United States440 Posts
Question being what are you running right now? Edit: Actually what are your whole PC Specs right now? | ||
Shauni
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Sure, CUDA or ATI's HWAcceleration helps a lot in video playback (100% and lag vs 10% load on CPU with 1080p video with my 9800gtx), but it's usually used for really old single core processors or the earliest dual core processors. | ||
AyeH
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FragKrag
United States11546 Posts
that is when nvidia is expected to get more of them and distribute them to partners. Newegg might have some tomorrow though, since some partners lagged behind in shipping. I think only Gigabyte, EVGA, and PNY shipped out in the states. anyways it looks like the GTX 480 and GTX 470 are very solid in performance. The 2GB 5870 'GTX 480 killer' fell short, and the GTX 470 can compete with the 5870 in many games at 1680x1050 and occasionally at 1920x1200. Flops at 2560x1600 though. | ||
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