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Stupidity
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States209 Posts
February 24 2010 21:46 GMT
#1
Why are newcomers to Teamliquid always getting trashed by high post counters? Is it because of the influx of newbies joining because of SC2? Why can't I freely express my opinions without getting flamed by someone else who thinks I'm wrong? Is it because I'm a forum newbie and others with 5000+ posts are always right?

To be honest, after browsing the forums for quite a bit, I've yet to see any difference in the quality of posts between any random forum newbie and many 5k+ posters. Take for example Meeple, who's pretty much the biggest useless spammer on this site. So what if he has like 8000 posts? None of them are useful at all. Charlie Murphy as well is just a troll, and everyone knows it too. But everyone takes it and says "Oh, it's okay. He can troll because he has 10k+ posts".

But why can't I do the same with just 100 posts? What makes me any different? Why can't I give my honest opinion without someone jumping and bashing me for being a forum newbie? It's hard to climb up the ladder to get into the "high post count veteran" rankings without flying under the radar. It's quite a rough life down here.

Aside from a slight bit of post count and name color bias, Teamliquid truly is a great site that I'm proud to be a part of. Here's to hoping that TL gets bigger as SC2 kicks in!

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The6357
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States1268 Posts
February 24 2010 21:54 GMT
#2
go read tl 10 commendment...it's their house :p
2010 worldcup!! corea fighting!!!
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
February 24 2010 21:58 GMT
#3
Charliemurphy actually contributes some too, even though generally you cant tell whether his posts are him being dumb or him trolling by pretending to be dumb
i only judge people by their post count in the sc2 forum, you'll notice that most of the whiney little shits who go "ITS JUST BETA DONT CHANGE A THING EVERYTHING IS PERFECT BAWWWW" are all low post users
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
jonnyp
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States415 Posts
February 24 2010 21:59 GMT
#4
There are plenty of low post count people that are considered great posters. Look at MDT, he has less than 300 posts I believe and is widely considered one of the best thread creators in all of TL.

Short answer: same as in life, you get respect for the amount of time and effort you put in. If you last a while and get to a high post count you will get respect. If you don't necessarily have a high post count but your posts are top notch you will also get respect.
The number of years it takes for the Internet to move past anything is way, way over 9000.
fAnTaCy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States893 Posts
February 24 2010 22:00 GMT
#5
Most of it is because they have contributed to the forums so they have some leniency. Yah they troll aswell and sometimes get temp banned but they have some quality posts but they have done things for tl
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wfoperational
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States143 Posts
February 24 2010 22:01 GMT
#6
Protip: flood the LR threads, and I don't mean flaming players you consider bad, just the normal "PLLAAAAGGGGGUUUUEE" or "GEEEEEEEEEEGEEEEEEEE" stuff. Soon you'll have 1k+ post, then start chiming in on every thread in general, broodwar and, if you have a key, SC2 boards. Just post your opinion, be it useless or pointless, just don't flame. I wouldn't touch the strategy board if I were you though... waaaaaaaaaaaay too dangerous out there. Then you'll have about 5k+ post.

rinse, dry, repeat.

╮(╯▽╰)╭ wfbrood.com website admin 日本著名中锋赤木刚宪曾表示,控制篮板球的人,就控制了全场
Stupidity
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States209 Posts
February 24 2010 22:02 GMT
#7
On February 25 2010 06:59 jonnyp wrote:
There are plenty of low post count people that are considered great posters. Look at MDT, he has less than 300 posts I believe and is widely considered one of the best thread creators in all of TL.

Short answer: same as in life, you get respect for the amount of time and effort you put in. If you last a while and get to a high post count you will get respect. If you don't necessarily have a high post count but your posts are top notch you will also get respect.

There are only a few of these though, and he has a star next to his name. However, most of the times, low post counters are pretty disregarded and treated like complete shit.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 24 2010 22:04 GMT
#8
newbie needs to learn his place



In all honesty all of us (well, some of us) used to be just like you-new posters with tiny post counts and always feeling threatened by people with tens of thousands of posts. It's not that we generally like people with high post counts, it's just that a lot of these people with high post counts are often heavily involved in the community, and so they've played games with people, met up with them, etc. A lot of us streamers have high post counts, but people tend to listen to us because we're providing (okay, not me) a valuable service to the community on our own expense of time. Similarly, admins help keep the site full clean of trash, and writers write really well done articles, liquipedia entires, arranging tournaments and stuff, etc. People contribute and are respected for it. Of course, a lot of them do tend to troll, but they've contributed and "earned" the right to do some softcore trolling. I bet if I like for instance started calling you a bunch of expletives that I would get ban hammered.

You afaik haven't actually contributed anything to the community. So you haven't really "earned" that right. Like for instance there's people with low post counts that have given a computer program or whatnot to the community so they have a lot of respect.

I bet if you started a tournament you could probably get trolling rights too. But don't take my word for it because I"m not an admin -_-
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
jonnyp
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States415 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-24 22:09:40
February 24 2010 22:09 GMT
#9
On February 25 2010 07:02 Stupidity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2010 06:59 jonnyp wrote:
There are plenty of low post count people that are considered great posters. Look at MDT, he has less than 300 posts I believe and is widely considered one of the best thread creators in all of TL.

Short answer: same as in life, you get respect for the amount of time and effort you put in. If you last a while and get to a high post count you will get respect. If you don't necessarily have a high post count but your posts are top notch you will also get respect.

There are only a few of these though, and he has a star next to his name. However, most of the times, low post counters are pretty disregarded and treated like complete shit.


Not treated like complete shit, just treated with less leniency. People with less post counts generally have contributed less and hence get less leeway, as they should. The only way to escape this is to either contribute consistently for a long period of time (like most of the forum vets) or contribute massively in few posts (like MDT, and like you said: very hard).

Everyone started at 0 though so we're no different.
The number of years it takes for the Internet to move past anything is way, way over 9000.
wfoperational
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States143 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-24 22:13:12
February 24 2010 22:11 GMT
#10
On February 25 2010 07:04 Caller wrote:
newbie needs to learn his place



In all honesty all of us (well, some of us) used to be just like you-new posters with tiny post counts and always feeling threatened by people with tens of thousands of posts. It's not that we generally like people with high post counts, it's just that a lot of these people with high post counts are often heavily involved in the community, and so they've played games with people, met up with them, etc. A lot of us streamers have high post counts, but people tend to listen to us because we're providing (okay, not me) a valuable service to the community on our own expense of time. Similarly, admins help keep the site full clean of trash, and writers write really well done articles, liquipedia entires, arranging tournaments and stuff, etc. People contribute and are respected for it. Of course, a lot of them do tend to troll, but they've contributed and "earned" the right to do some softcore trolling. I bet if I like for instance started calling you a bunch of expletives that I would get ban hammered.

You afaik haven't actually contributed anything to the community. So you haven't really "earned" that right. Like for instance there's people with low post counts that have given a computer program or whatnot to the community so they have a lot of respect.

I bet if you started a tournament you could probably get trolling rights too. But don't take my word for it because I"m not an admin -_-


I think what he's saying though, is that he is not trolling, but is getting trolled/flamed pretty hard by high-post-count posters. This doesn't do TL any good if all the high-post-count posters are scaring away new members.

P.S: oshi TA's coming better switch to cellphone mode :/
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l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-24 22:18:17
February 24 2010 22:12 GMT
#11
This post has been removed by the SCV police
Writer
Lovin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark812 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-24 22:27:50
February 24 2010 22:26 GMT
#12
A lot of people already said most of it, but basically here's my look at it:

TL is a community. To be functional it needs to be civil. (Think battlenet forums) Ergo there can't be a lot of people trolling/spamming, so if the site admins smell a troll they'll ban him (Not if it's a confirmed her, though because... Well..) just to keep the amount of trolls on the forum low.
However some trolling is quite fun to watch every now and then, so it's allowed for creative trolls and contributors to do a bit of trolling (Fanatacist was practically a contributor by his trolling alone (That man deserved a star)) as long as it is creative and mild.
If you don't contribute, you don't get to troll, because next to noone likes to see nobodies trolling long-therm friends.

Edit: ^ Wtf! xD
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Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
February 24 2010 22:53 GMT
#13
Great blog lol 5/5
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
February 24 2010 23:37 GMT
#14
On February 25 2010 07:12 l10f wrote:
This post has been removed by the SCV police

WHO DAT. WHO DAT
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 24 2010 23:39 GMT
#15
posting is really hard
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
February 24 2010 23:55 GMT
#16
On February 25 2010 08:37 Kentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2010 07:12 l10f wrote:
This post has been removed by the SCV police

WHO DAT. WHO DAT


Some noobie with 10000+ posts and an SCV icon told me to remove that post.
Writer
Stupidity
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States209 Posts
February 24 2010 23:58 GMT
#17
Yet another thread where high post counters come and derail the thread into a shitty one. Thanks a bunch guys.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 25 2010 00:06 GMT
#18
you seem really angry over people who have done nothing to offend you.
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
February 25 2010 00:16 GMT
#19
I don't really see people make a big deal about post count. I also have a hard time believing anybody has flamed you for your opinions purely because you have a low post count. Even if they did, that's your opportunity to defend yourself and gain more e-respect and more posts.

You make it seem like it's hard to post 10,000 non-bannable posts, rofl, guess what, it's not.
Chains none
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
February 25 2010 00:19 GMT
#20
On February 25 2010 08:58 Stupidity wrote:
Yet another thread where high post counters come and derail the thread into a shitty one. Thanks a bunch guys.

maybe you're discriminated against because the rest of your posts are as stupid as this one
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
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