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Gretorp
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States586 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-22 14:56:24
February 22 2010 05:33 GMT
#1
Hello everyone, and thank you for everything you have done to make the community an amazing place. I loved the community since the beginning and I will always love the community. It's what makes this game so amazing.

As the name says, I am officially retiring from starcraft broodwar, and possibly starcraft 2. Before I give you my reasons, I want to share with you the history of how I came to be and the people that helped me all along.

When I was the ripe old age of 12, I was at my local yacht club, and a guy told me, "well if you like warcraft 2, you will love starcraft!" So of course I got the game and from there it started. I played bgh and hunters every single time. 2v2 and 3v3 were my favorite things, and I started thinking about the game more strategically from the beginning than I did mechanically(hence my shitty mechanics!) I loved it and got my friend into it. I remember my best friend and I would wake up at 7am, and I'd call him with the humungous wireless phones, and we'd be on the phone the entire time playing with our heads tilted so the phone would stay near to our ear. It was the most exhilerating feeling to wake up on a saturday, knowing you would be with your best friend and playing some kids and beating everyone to a pulp! as I started getting older, more and more school friends were in it, and I was so competitive that I had to be the best. Nobody stood a chance and it was the best experience of my life. I decided to start a clan, called //GET READY// RagingDemons hahahaha I was young :-P and the channel name was clan ragingdemons. Awesome right? :-) It was some great times. It was on east at the time when clan pros was huge and I'd always go in there and play with the big timers like YourKiller, Cocoakrispies, and Cherioos. I felt like I was ontop of the world... till wgt... As clans fizzled and I moved onto wgt, I made another clan called Lords Of Chaos, clan LoC) then to op LoC) I started this with a buddy of mine and we still had so much fun even though we were a god awful team! I remember my high was B6 and i hit b5 once because I BBSed every game at B6, and thought I was the coolest kid(Jokes wanted to brag to friends). I ended up back on east however, in NeX where I met my good friend who I still talk to, Mike aka Playa. He's the first one that introduced me to the game with great mechanics and a mindset that was much different than normal people. I got a chance to watch him take out top foreigners, and he'd show me how tod things that were amazing. Sadly, this was junior year of highschool, and I had to quit starcraft for SAT preparations and admitting to college. I took a break from starcraft for about 2 years, till college started. I started back up freshman year winter time, when I figured(I have nothing to do!) I came back as Gretorp-Lzuruha, part of Lzuruha of course. I made some great friends in LzH, and I do want to mention a few in particular, Yoonho, Dragon, Jackass and Memo, who are amazing players and people, and I had some of the best times building our team and getting better. A special shout to Yoonho and Dragon as you two were just such a huge part of me, and I love you guys so much. I stayed with Lzuruha for about 3 and a half years! Still under the radar since I primarily played on east, I slowly built up my game until it came for USA B tryouts. I tried out 3 times for USA B and was so determined to get on the national team. In the last tournament, I won it taking out Kawaii(who BBS'ed me in the 2nd game after i beat him on BlueStorm!!!!! BASTARD) and Spades in the finals. I remember the feeling I had of being so proud that I became a national member, and wanted to be the best I could be because of it. I practiced hard, and really analyzed everything possible. I started mass single player mode, and I picked apart every replay I lost until I understood what the proper counter was, where I lost, and how I could prevent the loss with scouting. I went a whopping 14-1 in USA B, beating players such as handy, moonshine, kenzy, and many others that I cannot remember. As I developed my play, Duran aka Xeris[Light], took notice of me and asked if I wanted to join Light. I had to leave my good friends, and went to Light where I was welcomed with warm arms and loving people. I fit right in, except I hated Kawaii for a stupid game where I raged(AND HES ANNOYING AS FUCK). although, through everything, I grew as a player and got to know the other players very well. I eventually brought on Stryker to the team, and pushed really hard for him to get on. We ended up becoming very good training buddies, and great friends, and I will always remember him and what a great, intelligent player he is. I also got to meet up with a lot of the EG people and everyone was just amazing. It makes me smile thinking of all the people and the relationships I had with them give me a feeling of bliss as i think of it right now.

During the time in LighT, I met Darryl aka Warrior350 during the KoC event, and he introduced me to Marko aka Marcoon. These two guys are some of the best admins I've met, and I thank them whole heartedly for all they've done for the community.

My skill slowly developed, and I was really gungho about training. I wanted to get better and better, and saw all the terrible plays 'top players' were doing, and knew I was much better. Unfortuantely because of school, and extra activities, I was unable to train as much as I wanted, and my execution suffered tremendously. That's when i decided I would go complete theory based, and try to win at mid to end game timings to accomodate for my style of play. Hence I always set up to play robust until that mid game going to end game and win at that point since my execution lacked. I set up timings for all of my builds(THE INFAMOUS 21 MINUTE TIMING PUSH) and I played accordingly.

Before I conclude on LighT, I want to say a huge thank you to Duran. We always joke how we call each other boo, but I really do love you man, and I hope we stay friends forever. You're an amazing person, player, and manager, and a great friend.

(I'm so for no linear thought, i'm closing my eyes and just writing this as it's very sad for me!)

My streaming days were the times that actually got me a bit of notoriety in the scene. I started streaming in 2009, and adding commentary when playing. I would be playing so much, but as my equipment in my computer started to crap out, I started to stop streaming. A little later on in 2009, i was asked to go to IEF, and went with the support of many people which I think you so much. It was of the best experiences of my life, and I treasured every second of it. There, I met up with the coach of estro, Hwanni, and asked him about e-sports jobs. My mind was set on getting in e-sports, and I was planning on moving to korea.

and now sc2 has come out.

Motivation has deteriorated dramatically.
My friends and family of sc are slowly leaving, and I'm growing up and things have become different.
2 years ago, the love of my life broke up with me, and I've been trying to get her back. I am so close to it, and I just want to do anything I can for her, because she is just such an amazing person. There hasn't been a single day in the past 2 years where I haven't thought about her, and there hasn't been a day where I went to sleep wishing she was next to me. I have that opportunity and I'm not going to let it slip through my fingers.

Korea has been put on hold because of this. I choose the happiness through love, over happiness through work, and I hope it will pay off.

When I see opportunity for me to help the community, I definitely will. As for my times in starcraft 2, I am still deliberating if I will doing that. My mind is leaning towards no sadly, but i may lurk from time to time.

So this is me, Andre aka Gretorp signing off from the community. I love you all very much, and I am almost ready to shed a tear on how sad I feel, yet happy I am thinking of all the people that touched me. I know I haven't talked about everyone, but there are too many good people that I regularly talk to that I can't mention everyone.

Thank you and I hope to see you soon.

/Edit
As I go through the day, I think of more people that I need to address:
Ogenki - I wish you stayed with it because you had so much potential. You're a great guy and thanks for listening to me through my rough times. You helped me a lot.
Princeton Team - I'm proud of all of you and I hope we all see each other soon.


**
I am Unheard Change
Gretorp
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States586 Posts
February 22 2010 05:36 GMT
#2
Lastly, the quote at the bottom, "I am Unheard Change" is acutally an ambigram of my name. Andre Hengchua = Unheard Change. It's been fitting through my time in bw, and I like it :-)

I am Unheard Change
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-22 05:44:04
February 22 2010 05:36 GMT
#3
Well said Andre.

such a good story thanks for sharing.

I feel so sad right now.
DrivE
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States2554 Posts
February 22 2010 05:38 GMT
#4
Impossible. T_T
LUCK IS NO EXCUSE
1postperday
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States45 Posts
February 22 2010 05:43 GMT
#5
WTF man, not cool. Pros before hos.
See you tomorrow
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24782 Posts
February 22 2010 05:44 GMT
#6
Ah sad to see you go Gretorp but stick around the community at least! Maybe I'll meet you again at another USA event?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
February 22 2010 05:45 GMT
#7
......................... fuck.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-22 05:52:46
February 22 2010 05:51 GMT
#8
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BrodiaQ
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States892 Posts
February 22 2010 05:53 GMT
#9
Dude, thank you for everything you have done. Your stream was the only thing that kept me going in starcraft. I'm not very good, and I came very close to giving it up, but after watching your stream it rejuvenated me. Watching you play always made my day better. You really deserve much more than this rushed, bumbling post, and I'll probably send you a pm later that you won't ever read but just know that you definitely made a huge difference in the scene, at the very least for me. Thank you for everything.


Now go get your girl!
glhf
"So come right up and let me squash your creativity with my iron fist of conservative play."--Nony
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
February 22 2010 05:59 GMT
#10
lol even though I thought you hated me in Lzuruha it was fun getting raped by your SKTerran all the time.

Good luck with life man.

~Zephyr-Lzuruha
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KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
February 22 2010 06:04 GMT
#11
I still don't know the bbs build order but I MISS YOU OK? MANY GAY HUGS NEXT TIME WE MEET... T_T

+ Show Spoiler +
That hengchua guy so sexy and good and shit yo wtf. its like protoss dts, fucking broken.


bye bye t_tttt.....
@KawaiiRiceLighT
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 22 2010 06:06 GMT
#12


gl with ur adventures mate
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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 22 2010 06:07 GMT
#13
See you oh fabled one in your next life.
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
February 22 2010 06:07 GMT
#14
one no quits sc... they just move on to sc2...
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-22 06:10:31
February 22 2010 06:09 GMT
#15


I knew I had a gretorp gameplay vid somewhere buried on my youtube. :D
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
February 22 2010 06:15 GMT
#16
dude... who do I smash now... god noob bm user

You were a huuuuge reason why I was able to improve as part of LighT/eX/Pan. You are a great mentor.

If there were any a reason for quitting bw, you've got the right one.


GL HF
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
intrudor
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada446 Posts
February 22 2010 06:48 GMT
#17
you wont quit dude, youre just gonna play less, no competitive player ever quits SC
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snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
February 22 2010 06:49 GMT
#18
Yo, hoping you get that girl. Love is more worthy than even Starcraft.

=)
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
February 22 2010 06:49 GMT
#19
gretorp!! i really admired your theoretical approach to improving at bw, you were so gosu while playing so little lol. Lzh was one of my fav teams while it lasted, we had some great times. Playing against u in lzh koth, and with u in cws was awesome (though thats where i got the 1-2 name rofl), its too bad that after you left we only played every once in a while. I wish u the best in life, and thnx for the special shoutout :D makes me feel good lol
aka DragOn[NaS]
Tenryu
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States565 Posts
February 22 2010 07:11 GMT
#20
OOa, i was NeX-xUs a loooooong time ago
http://myanimelist.net/profile/Understar
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
February 22 2010 07:23 GMT
#21
I wish you luck Gretorp! ...

Bah. T_T
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
February 22 2010 08:15 GMT
#22
I really liked your "strategic" approach to BW

Good luck at life!
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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
February 22 2010 08:19 GMT
#23
I loved your stream. I'm sorry to see you go but gl and have a good life
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SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
February 22 2010 14:25 GMT
#24
I will always love you and cherish the moments we spent together.

Even though I'd constantly trash your old clan leader. But you'd still give me head. <3
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
duckett
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States589 Posts
February 22 2010 16:13 GMT
#25
aww sad to see you go gretorp =*(
much love from princeton team...you were a huge part of what made our csl experience so great and we've all improved a lot because of you. your understanding of the game was second to none and you kept it real like no other.

good luck in your crazy misadventures!
funky squaredance funky squaredance funky squaredance
Response
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States1938 Posts
February 22 2010 19:47 GMT
#26
Motivation has deteriorated dramatically.
My friends and family of sc are slowly leaving, and I'm growing up and things have become different.
2 years ago, the love of my life broke up with me, and I've been trying to get her back. I am so close to it, and I just want to do anything I can for her, because she is just such an amazing person. There hasn't been a single day in the past 2 years where I haven't thought about her, and there hasn't been a day where I went to sleep wishing she was next to me. I have that opportunity and I'm not going to let it slip through my fingers.


Please tell me your not quitting starcraft because of a girl, this is coming from my experience, girls are never worth giving up something you love to do or have a passion for. I did the same thing as you, I thought quitting starcraft and showing the girl I cared more about her than the game would save our relationship...it didn't and at the end of it all all I was left with sucking at starcraft and still not having a g/f... but maybe you'll be different gl yo
the REAL ReSpOnSe
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
February 22 2010 19:53 GMT
#27
Sad to see you go, but I think we'll see you playing around with SC2 every once in a while. Cheers
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
February 23 2010 01:03 GMT
#28
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Gretorp don't leave. What excuse can I have now to not doing homework? I miss all of the gosu arbiter lockdowns.

Just teach that girl how to play SC2!

Much love Gretorp, thanks
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
February 24 2010 02:12 GMT
#29
I was friends w/ nex! you knew me back then too! :D
machinehead..
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
412 Posts
February 24 2010 03:12 GMT
#30
I was hoping we could be lovers! I definitely agree with the decision you have made. Hopefully there will be enough money in SC 2 to justify spending some time on it, and thus understanding from others. You're a great person and a great talent. I wish you the best, you sexy beast.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
February 24 2010 03:59 GMT
#31
This is the worst news ever.

You will be sorely missed.
WheelOfTime
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada331 Posts
February 24 2010 04:39 GMT
#32
Who are you? 199 posts poster?
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
February 24 2010 04:56 GMT
#33
gl gretorp...


yo how did u find our website ROFL
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
TAD[nnilf]
Profile Joined February 2010
United States191 Posts
February 24 2010 05:20 GMT
#34
You will be missed. gl to you in whatever you do

Thanks for taking the time to talk with me
In America!
Gretorp
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States586 Posts
February 24 2010 05:24 GMT
#35
dimsum, my friend from tcnj linked me to your site. :-P
I am Unheard Change
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
February 24 2010 05:35 GMT
#36
yooo tell ur friend to post, i didnt realize ppl lurk our forum LOL
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
YoonHo
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada1043 Posts
February 24 2010 05:50 GMT
#37
Gretorp damn it! You're the one that actually inspired me to improve and get better. How could you quit on me! O_O! This news makes me really sad. You were always in a good mood and you were fun to be around with. You've always been there to help me out whenever I got sad about sucking at this damn game or anything as a matter of fact. Gretorp, you are an amazing person. It's awesome that I had the opportunity to become friends with you gretorp. I wish you nothing but the best and I hope we get to meet each other in real life someday. I shall cherish all the memories we've had. Keep in contact! <3<3
IUFam Golf Wang~ NrGsteve
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
February 24 2010 06:04 GMT
#38
It's alright, expect us to come over when we have break mid-march or so. xD.
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