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Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-27 07:35:46
February 20 2010 09:10 GMT
#1
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♥ I used to lasso the shit out of your tournaments =( ♥ | Much is my hero. | zizi yO~ | Be Nice, TL.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 09:29:56
February 20 2010 09:29 GMT
#2
The same thing happened to me and Insane, we were #1, lost one match, and dropped 150 points out of the Top 10

We've since grinded back to 3rd, because we are "1337"

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I think overall we're 2-2 vs ViBe/Aelis, we have a winning record vs Frozne/Bubba (though we haven't played them recently so they could be way better now) and we just lost twice to Warlen/Memz (they go Roach/Marine rush where the Terran goes 3-4 rax with no gas, no mule, no addons, and just pumps marines... never seen that before. I think Dark/Nostalgia are TL too, because we chatted with them in game.

Had some fun inner 2v2s with Orb/Haemonculus today too, if you and your partner want to play us in some custom games, that'd be great. Its hard to really experiment on the ladder.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 09:37:47
February 20 2010 09:36 GMT
#3
Hahahaha...

I believe we're...
1-1 against Frozne/Bubba,
2-1 against Dark/Nostalgia,
1-0 against ViBe/Aelis,
1-0 against Orb/Haemonculus,
and 3-0 or 4-0 against Warlen/Memz.

Funny story though, Warlen/Memz may have uhh... LEARNED a thing or two from us. =P They were like 16/12 or something awful after we played them, then they all the sudden started doing quite well after they BORROWED a thing or two from our play. They used it in the last two games we played with them, but we executed it a bit better. =P

We've got some changes going on though, so we'll possibly get to try them out against you sometime! =)
♥ I used to lasso the shit out of your tournaments =( ♥ | Much is my hero. | zizi yO~ | Be Nice, TL.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
February 20 2010 09:39 GMT
#4
hehe nothing wrong with changing your play if you see someone doing something better

thats what beta is for!
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
February 20 2010 09:40 GMT
#5
Yeah, haha. It's certainly a strong ass build. I generally get MULE though, and only 3-rax, if you macro well enough it seems to be sufficient. On the games that aren't won in 6 minutes, it's sooo easy to grab an expo and secure it. Most people aren't so good at that sort of thing.
♥ I used to lasso the shit out of your tournaments =( ♥ | Much is my hero. | zizi yO~ | Be Nice, TL.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
February 20 2010 09:56 GMT
#6
Ooooh I wonder if that guys is Filthy from Aus SC/WC3 ^^
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doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
February 20 2010 09:56 GMT
#7
How is 2:2 in sc2?

2:2 in Sc1 always needed a ZX team on most maps to have a shot at winning vs ZX, unless you were either chogosu, playing TP vs ZZ, or had shared bases.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 09:59:00
February 20 2010 09:58 GMT
#8
I don't think there's any race combo imbalance yet (at least 2v2 wise). Though roaches are extremely strong, there are counters. Haven't beaten that roach/marine push yet though, but probably only a matter of time before some sort of workable solution is discovered for it (probably already has).
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
February 20 2010 09:59 GMT
#9
I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out how their point system can possibly work that people are dropping 100+ points losing a single game. It seems like a huge mistake on the part of whoever designed it as nearly every ranking designed in the last several decades has ways to circumvent that happening.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-20 10:07:27
February 20 2010 10:06 GMT
#10
We're actually losing 100+ points for WINNING a game. It is reassigning us to the same group and stealing our points. Apparently it's just bugged.

As far as racial imbalances, I feel STRONGLY that Zerg+X is the best at the moment. Roaches are just too strong right now, it seems. Plus I think like... 16 or 18 of the top 20 teams have a Z in them. At one point, I was only one of TWO terrans in the top ~15 teams. 2 T's out a 30 players is pretty rare.

I'm guessing as Khaymus' and I's build catches on it will become quite a bit more common to see T's in there, though.
♥ I used to lasso the shit out of your tournaments =( ♥ | Much is my hero. | zizi yO~ | Be Nice, TL.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
February 20 2010 10:36 GMT
#11
Yessss i knew that it will be worth it to wait for Marauders, thanks for the info )
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
February 20 2010 10:59 GMT
#12
On February 20 2010 19:36 Kaniol wrote:
Yessss i knew that it will be worth it to wait for Marauders, thanks for the info )


haha, yeah, I totally was sad about the firebats being gone, and actually didn't like the look of marauders. After about 3-4 games I was in love. The slowing attack is sooo good against protoss and bigger pound-for-pound units. Takes some micro but it's great.
♥ I used to lasso the shit out of your tournaments =( ♥ | Much is my hero. | zizi yO~ | Be Nice, TL.
StalinRusH
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States734 Posts
February 20 2010 15:43 GMT
#13
having not played (beta key plz?) im watching streams constantly and i have to say i dont care for the maps much. they seem really bland and are just a place with a left/right/top/bottom. Do the maps still play that way 2v2?
A Combination Of Tuberculosis And A Tomahawk To The Head:: Nothing Bonds Drunken Idiots Like Sexual Innuendos ::
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
February 20 2010 16:11 GMT
#14
lol on the shared base map, we tried out strat where one ally just makes nexus/probes and the other makes production buildings, then the first ally just sends all resources and uses the boost on his allys buildings. its probably not viable but its hilarious to see.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
February 20 2010 19:23 GMT
#15
On February 21 2010 01:11 Hot_Bid wrote:
lol on the shared base map, we tried out strat where one ally just makes nexus/probes and the other makes production buildings, then the first ally just sends all resources and uses the boost on his allys buildings. its probably not viable but its hilarious to see.


Oh man, we ended up thumbs-downing that map. It's sooo strong to just hold your ramp with 2 players and 2-base, so we have to draw it out to a really long macro game each time.
♥ I used to lasso the shit out of your tournaments =( ♥ | Much is my hero. | zizi yO~ | Be Nice, TL.
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