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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
February 18 2010 01:34 GMT
#1
Do French Canadians learn English like we in the UK learn French, ie as a small and interesting diversion that stops at about age 16?

I see many posters on TL who post in awful, awful, non-native English who are listed as coming from Canada. I often think 'must be a migrant student' to myself but is it because the Quebecois et al are basically entirely French?!

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Taurent
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada401 Posts
February 18 2010 01:43 GMT
#2
Indeed, about 75% of people from Quebec are native French speakers, with the rest being native English speakers. As of a couple of years ago, kids learn English in first grade (5 years old) but it used to be in 6th grade. Then we have English classes all the way to college, and most University programs will require you to have very good English.

In my opinion tho, our English classes are pretty crappy. Felt like I was taught the same thing year after year, and some people are still very bad at the end of high school.
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
February 18 2010 01:49 GMT
#3
Either case is possible, although Quebecois English is better than our French. The Quebecois speak worse English than Scandinavians, Flemings and Dutchmen, and arguably also worse than Germans, Austrians, the Swiss, Slovenes, and Finns.
PoP-sicle
Profile Joined May 2007
Canada418 Posts
February 18 2010 01:50 GMT
#4
We are surrounded by english(ontario,usa,new brunswick), of course we learn it at school, im interest of how well you speak and write french tho.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6639 Posts
February 18 2010 01:52 GMT
#5
On February 18 2010 10:50 PoP-sicle wrote:
We are surrounded by english(ontario,usa,new brunswick), of course we learn it at school, im interest of how well you speak and write french tho.

Not very well, not very well at all...

Studied a little bit for a few years but stopped that like 8 years ago, the few times I've been to France though the little I do know has proved useful.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
February 18 2010 01:53 GMT
#6
French canadians don't even speak french properly, let alone english.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-18 02:00:04
February 18 2010 01:56 GMT
#7
I know, I am literally always flabbergasted by the brilliance of the English spoken and written by Scandinavians and Dutch etc. (edit: in reply to Moltkewarding)

So I guess the divide is somewhere similar to the Greeks and Turks living in Cyprus?! Or maybe not that bad? It just always seemed quite surprising I guess, because English is such an important language for movies and music, and what with the French Canadians living in a predominantly English-speaking continent, it's surprising it doesn't rub off. If I were being confrontational and stereotypical, I would put it down to Gallic stubbornness .

But I mean have you seen (heard) Georges St-Pierre, the UFC fighter speak? And then he wears a Canadian flag and I'm like Juh :S?! Though I guess he does have a Fleur de Lys on his calf.

Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-18 02:03:21
February 18 2010 02:01 GMT
#8
Theres both. I've been going to a bilingual school since first grade. Half my courses taught in English, half in French. Of course, there are English schools where French is a one period a day thing, and the vast majority are French schools with only one English class a day. It's massively stupid that our gov doesn't see the value of teaching English to everyone.
In fact, theres a huge movement to preserve French culture, stupid laws are put into place, like for instance, any sign or logo must have the French version of the logo at least twice as big as the English one or something close to that. Law 101 prevents children of French parents from attending English school, etc etc. They basically stupefy the entire province to preserve the language.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
February 18 2010 02:05 GMT
#9
On February 18 2010 10:50 PoP-sicle wrote:
We are surrounded by english(ontario,usa,new brunswick), of course we learn it at school, im interest of how well you speak and write french tho.


Do you consider yourselves like, a separate country then? Because I don't really get many homeland vibes from Canadians lol; I mean do you learn history from a French perspective, you know, learning about Napoleon in detail, and the French revolution and such?

And my standard of French is passable, about 90% of the country is dire...
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
February 18 2010 02:13 GMT
#10
5/5 would read again.

(yes, they do - in high school I think..)
:)
PoP-sicle
Profile Joined May 2007
Canada418 Posts
February 18 2010 02:22 GMT
#11
On February 18 2010 11:05 sc4k wrote:
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On February 18 2010 10:50 PoP-sicle wrote:
We are surrounded by english(ontario,usa,new brunswick), of course we learn it at school, im interest of how well you speak and write french tho.


Do you consider yourselves like, a separate country then? Because I don't really get many homeland vibes from Canadians lol; I mean do you learn history from a French perspective, you know, learning about Napoleon in detail, and the French revolution and such?

And my standard of French is passable, about 90% of the country is dire...


The history we learn isnt about europe , its mostly about america and is colonisation and I dont concider quebec as a different country, its part of canada ,I dont really know how you got that conclusion from my post . Lastly yeah the native language of GSP is french and his english skill is meh but I think you can understand him rather easily.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
February 18 2010 02:28 GMT
#12
Sorry I got that impression because you put Ontario and New Brunswick in the same list as the USA.
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
February 18 2010 02:50 GMT
#13
On February 18 2010 10:50 PoP-sicle wrote:
We are surrounded by english(ontario,usa,new brunswick), of course we learn it at school, im interest of how well you speak and write french tho.

what? like half of NB is french
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-18 02:59:13
February 18 2010 02:56 GMT
#14
According to Stephen Harper Quebec is a nation. And yes, Canadians in general do not learn European history in school. In school, I was taught Jacques Cartier and Samuel de Champlain, CPR and Metis revolt, War of 1812, Vimy Ridge and D-day, the 1972 hockey series against the USSR and a lot of miscellaneous nonsense.

Not very well, not very well at all...

Studied a little bit for a few years but stopped that like 8 years ago, the few times I've been to France though the little I do know has proved useful.


What I find amusing are the numbers in the UK row of the EU linguistic survey conducted a few years back. Read it for yourself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_European_Union#Language_skills_of_citizens
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
February 18 2010 02:57 GMT
#15
I live in NB and hell.. Its almost impossible to get a decent job in Moncton unless you are bilingual.. Its the lamest thing ever, and the reason im going back to Halifax asap.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-18 03:07:58
February 18 2010 03:06 GMT
#16
Maybe it's just because I'm speaking from a military perspective, but 99% of the Quebecois I know speak near-perfect English.
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MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
February 18 2010 03:06 GMT
#17
On February 18 2010 11:57 Skyze wrote:
I live in NB and hell.. Its almost impossible to get a decent job in Moncton unless you are bilingual.. Its the lamest thing ever, and the reason im going back to Halifax asap.


Why not take the opportunity to become bilingual? That's what any young European would do.
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-18 03:19:53
February 18 2010 03:16 GMT
#18
I am a French Canadian and I'm actually very sad to not be able to speak/write English as good as English Canadians. I guess we can't choose where we're born...
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
February 18 2010 03:19 GMT
#19
On February 18 2010 11:56 MoltkeWarding wrote:
According to Stephen Harper Quebec is a nation. And yes, Canadians in general do not learn European history in school. In school, I was taught Jacques Cartier and Samuel de Champlain, CPR and Metis revolt, War of 1812, Vimy Ridge and D-day, the 1972 hockey series against the USSR and a lot of miscellaneous nonsense.

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Not very well, not very well at all...

Studied a little bit for a few years but stopped that like 8 years ago, the few times I've been to France though the little I do know has proved useful.


What I find amusing are the numbers in the UK row of the EU linguistic survey conducted a few years back. Read it for yourself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_European_Union#Language_skills_of_citizens

What? I learned a fair bit of European history in school. I guess we do things differently here in BC.
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-18 03:20:30
February 18 2010 03:19 GMT
#20
The only thing I am going to say about this, is that it drives me nuts listening to french announcements for stuff like the olympics, and having laws that require French signage. There are more people in Canada who speak Cantonese, yet the Quebecois have to be recognized and treated specially...
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