I see many posters on TL who post in awful, awful, non-native English who are listed as coming from Canada. I often think 'must be a migrant student' to myself but is it because the Quebecois et al are basically entirely French?!





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					I see many posters on TL who post in awful, awful, non-native English who are listed as coming from Canada. I often think 'must be a migrant student' to myself but is it because the Quebecois et al are basically entirely French?! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()  | ||
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					In my opinion tho, our English classes are pretty crappy. Felt like I was taught the same thing year after year, and some people are still very bad at the end of high school.  | ||
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					On February 18 2010 10:50 PoP-sicle wrote: We are surrounded by english(ontario,usa,new brunswick), of course we learn it at school, im interest of how well you speak and write french tho. Not very well, not very well at all... Studied a little bit for a few years but stopped that like 8 years ago, the few times I've been to France though the little I do know has proved useful.  | ||
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					So I guess the divide is somewhere similar to the Greeks and Turks living in Cyprus?! Or maybe not that bad? It just always seemed quite surprising I guess, because English is such an important language for movies and music, and what with the French Canadians living in a predominantly English-speaking continent, it's surprising it doesn't rub off. If I were being confrontational and stereotypical, I would put it down to Gallic stubbornness  .But I mean have you seen (heard) Georges St-Pierre, the UFC fighter speak? And then he wears a Canadian flag and I'm like Juh :S?! Though I guess he does have a Fleur de Lys on his calf.  | ||
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					In fact, theres a huge movement to preserve French culture, stupid laws are put into place, like for instance, any sign or logo must have the French version of the logo at least twice as big as the English one or something close to that. Law 101 prevents children of French parents from attending English school, etc etc. They basically stupefy the entire province to preserve the language.  | ||
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					On February 18 2010 10:50 PoP-sicle wrote: We are surrounded by english(ontario,usa,new brunswick), of course we learn it at school, im interest of how well you speak and write french tho. Do you consider yourselves like, a separate country then? Because I don't really get many homeland vibes from Canadians lol; I mean do you learn history from a French perspective, you know, learning about Napoleon in detail, and the French revolution and such? And my standard of French is passable, about 90% of the country is dire...  | ||
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					(yes, they do - in high school I think..)  | ||
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					On February 18 2010 11:05 sc4k wrote: Show nested quote + On February 18 2010 10:50 PoP-sicle wrote: We are surrounded by english(ontario,usa,new brunswick), of course we learn it at school, im interest of how well you speak and write french tho. Do you consider yourselves like, a separate country then? Because I don't really get many homeland vibes from Canadians lol; I mean do you learn history from a French perspective, you know, learning about Napoleon in detail, and the French revolution and such? And my standard of French is passable, about 90% of the country is dire... The history we learn isnt about europe , its mostly about america and is colonisation and I dont concider quebec as a different country, its part of canada ,I dont really know how you got that conclusion from my post . Lastly yeah the native language of GSP is french and his english skill is meh but I think you can understand him rather easily.  | ||
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					On February 18 2010 10:50 PoP-sicle wrote: We are surrounded by english(ontario,usa,new brunswick), of course we learn it at school, im interest of how well you speak and write french tho. what? like half of NB is french  | ||
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					Not very well, not very well at all... Studied a little bit for a few years but stopped that like 8 years ago, the few times I've been to France though the little I do know has proved useful. What I find amusing are the numbers in the UK row of the EU linguistic survey conducted a few years back. Read it for yourself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_European_Union#Language_skills_of_citizens  | ||
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					On February 18 2010 11:57 Skyze wrote: I live in NB and hell.. Its almost impossible to get a decent job in Moncton unless you are bilingual.. Its the lamest thing ever, and the reason im going back to Halifax asap. Why not take the opportunity to become bilingual? That's what any young European would do.  | ||
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					On February 18 2010 11:56 MoltkeWarding wrote: According to Stephen Harper Quebec is a nation. And yes, Canadians in general do not learn European history in school. In school, I was taught Jacques Cartier and Samuel de Champlain, CPR and Metis revolt, War of 1812, Vimy Ridge and D-day, the 1972 hockey series against the USSR and a lot of miscellaneous nonsense. Show nested quote + Not very well, not very well at all... Studied a little bit for a few years but stopped that like 8 years ago, the few times I've been to France though the little I do know has proved useful. What I find amusing are the numbers in the UK row of the EU linguistic survey conducted a few years back. Read it for yourself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_European_Union#Language_skills_of_citizens What? I learned a fair bit of European history in school. I guess we do things differently here in BC.  | ||
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