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N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-13 16:52:20
February 13 2010 16:48 GMT
#41
Only read Ender's game then Ender's shadow.

Ender's shadow is terrible imo.

edit: I love Ender's Game though, except for the very very end. I agree that it does feel rushed and out of place; probably to fit better with his idea for Speaker for the Dead (which I have not read).
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N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
February 13 2010 16:54 GMT
#42
On February 12 2010 20:58 Konni wrote:
I only read Enders Game and Speaker For The Dead. I loved both of them.
[edit] I think Card said he always wanted to write Speaker For The Dead and had the idea in his mind for a long time. Enders Game was just the prelude.


I don't know when Card had the idea to write Speaker, but Ender's Game was an expanded short story of his.
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-13 17:01:22
February 13 2010 16:56 GMT
#43
These are what I read and the order I read them:

Ender's Game
Speaker for the Dead
Xenocide
Children of the Mind
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
February 13 2010 20:46 GMT
#44
On February 14 2010 01:13 IdrA wrote:
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On February 13 2010 03:13 Sadist wrote:
On February 13 2010 02:13 lac29 wrote:
Anyone find it kinda stupid that this series has dragged on this long? It's so diluted nowadays and makes me feel a lot less about OSC's original Ender's Game which until a few years ago was my fav book. Apparently a movie was in the works for awhile but never came to fruition.



i think eneders game is the worst book out of all of them tbh. Enders shadow is better. Enders game is depressing and ender is pretty emo + the ending felt rushed.

i think he rewrote the ending to make it flow into speaker for the dead, which kind of explains why it doesnt feel right.



that makes sense. It seemed way too rushed. Id say Children of the mind KIND OF felt that way but not nearly as much as enders game. I think the bean books are written better tbh. Speaker for the Dead is probably my favorite book out of all of them though.
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Tal
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United Kingdom1017 Posts
February 13 2010 22:29 GMT
#45
After loving the original ender's game I was really disappointed by Speaker for the Dead and Xenocide.

Apart from being less exciting and having weaker ideas, his writing style becomes noticeably poor - lots of really clumsy sentences. Essentially he starts to hammer you in the face with his underlying themes, in case you had somehow failed to notice them. Like one person will say or do something, then another character will psycho-analyse them (for ages). It's pretty painful.

The really frustrating thing is there are still some really good ideas and moments. So you want to read...

Maybe the bean books are better?
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Tsagacity
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2124 Posts
February 13 2010 22:52 GMT
#46
My suggestion would be to only read Ender's game, maybe Ender's shadow if you really want. The bean line isn't that bad, but imo everything past Ender's Game just ruins the purity of the true classic
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BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
February 14 2010 03:00 GMT
#47
I absolutely loved the entire series and all the books


Guess im wierd like that
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
February 14 2010 18:34 GMT
#48
I liked all of the books too, don't think i finished the last one. will probably have to rebuy the books bc i don't know where i put them! it's been years haha
Norcon
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada5 Posts
September 14 2010 18:17 GMT
#49
Well i'm in the same boat as the original poster (Although I'm sure he's go on and read them all by now!)

I'm just finishing up Ender's game (A little late to the game) and have really enjoyed it. I'm by no means a big sci-fi fan, but I found Ender's game a very good read. After skimming all the posts (avoiding spoilers) Its clear that everyone has their own opinions. Some say don't read anything past Enders Game. Others say Shadow is the way to go and Ender just lacks. All the while other people are pro Ender and con against Bean.

The answer that stood out most was to read them in publication order, which I plan to do. It'd be interesting if Scott rewrote some of the stories into a large book. The reading order on these books is very confusing!
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