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On February 01 2010 10:28 diggurd wrote:
i feel the same way, but its probably coming so we have to get ready to handle our emotions.
this is how i look at it
a) we all think the game is better, and a change is natural (not going to happen, lol big slow goons firing lasers)
b) the game is ok - the korean sponsors force the proteams to change
c) warcraft4 - now we can play DOTA in space too :D
a is ok?
b is dangerous...
c is probably true
haha i also think c is going to be true. and i totally feel the same as everyone else here.
does sc2 really have to come out?
but lets face it... sc is old and nearly every notable league and team has neglected it, from the start til the end. out of ignorance and simple mindedness (ITS ALL ABOUT THE LAZERZ, GUYS). we were lucky that we had wcg, and the very generous people of tsl. the only way to grow is change.
broodwar isnt just a great game, it has also been around for all this time because the community has been and still is simply amazing. so i think if we just stick together and move with our hopes to sc2 together and dont let the "new guys" ruin it for us, it will be good.
personally i dont want wc3 guys to tell me how to play sc and stuff like that, or that the sc2 community erodes into that flaming, cheating mob that the cstrike scene is.
so lets just remember where WE came from.
bw4ever :D
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now that I think about SC2 like a cool new toy that's gonna kill my old friend, I have to go take a long walk and sulk 
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I agree completely with OP and if SC2 kills SC:BW progaming then I will be very sad indeed.
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But guys...don't you wanna know WHO'S THIS "GREATER POWER"? WHO IS DURAN REALLY WORKING FOR? WHERE ARE THE XEL'NAGA? WILL KERRIGAN AND RAYNOR STILL HAVE BABIES?
As far as people saying they want BW to end because they suck at it. If you have 50 apm in BW, you're going to suck at SC2 too. Might as well just try to improve and enjoy the game while it's here like I am while looking forward to blizzard nailing sc2.
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I agree with op fully. I am sadly not even sure I will have the time and/or patience to build the muscle memory for sc2.
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On February 02 2010 01:27 ketomai wrote:
As far as people saying they want BW to end because they suck at it. If you have 50 apm in BW, you're going to suck at SC2 too. Might as well just try to improve and enjoy the game while it's here like I am while looking forward to blizzard nailing sc2.
but, but, but MBS and automine will allow any noob to beat Jaedong! I swear!
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Yup, I think I share the OP's feeling about SC2 to come out, I really have nothing against the game but I'm gonna miss SC1 that's for sure
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yes. you've refected my thoughts perfectly
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To be honest, I dislike the whole "death" analogy. To me, StarCraft II is merely a new phase in StarCraft progaming and not the death of one scene and the start of another. Afterall, it`s preety much a given that a lot of the people involved with the BW scene are going to be involved with SC2 as well.
Anyway, a lot of the responses in this thread remind me of Lovecraft`s quote: "The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown." A lot of us have become greatly accustomed to Brood War and have gotten used to it`s various units, strategies and quirks. And quite a few have become so used to it that they perceive anything new that could potentially replace it with great reservation, if not outright hostility. In many ways, it is a natural and expected response.
However, while fear of the unknown can be a useful talent toi have, it also tends to make us blind to new opportunities for growth. And as much as we hate to admit it, StarCraft is in desperate need for new opportunities. This is particularly evident in Korea, the mecca of StarCraft. Even there where it is strongest, StarCraft is no longer what it used to be. StarCraft no longer dominates PC Bangs, viewership has dropped considerably and there are less people attending events (even when old legends are playing). Controversies revolving KeSPA have only made this situation worse. Overall, the scene is in need of revitalisation.
The only way to do that is for the StarCraft phenomenon to become international. However, Brood War cannot do this, since it has very much a niché appeal outside of Korea, even after the renaissance it has experienced due to SC2`s announcement. The fact that the game has been mostly mapped out, as Artosis put it, does not help either. Yes, there is still some innovation....but that innovation has become increasingly more subtle and rare and that cannot sustain a casual viewership that allowed the Brood War scene to run at it`s former pace. That is why StarCraft II represents a new opportunity...not only for former and existing StarCraft fans, but also for a brand new generation as well.
Overall, StarCraft II can very much be described as a newborn offspring. When a person comes into this world, we cannot know for certain what kind of life they will lead. They could end up being your average person for the rest of their days, they could reach great heights and make their mark in the annals of history or they can end up being a lot worse then ourselves and fail to utilise their talents. We just do not know. All we can do is nourish them, teach them, support them and hope that, once they are standing on their own two feet, they can utilise their potential to the fullest. So just like a parent`s greatest happiness is to see his offspring successfully walk in the great big world on their own, so it would be Brood War`s crowning achievement if StarCraft II managed to supercede it.
People in this thread like to use the word "death". But the truth is, Brood War will never truly die. Through great actions, men have been able to shed their mortal bodies and reach immortality by affecting us long after their demise. In much the same fashion, Brood War will forever exist in gaming history and, more importantly, in our hearts in minds. But everything must come to an end eventually....even Brood War. But when that day comes, I think all StarCraft fans (even those that are so reluctant at this point in time) would be at a much greater peace of mind if they knew that it had a successor , worthy of it`s name, carrying it`s spirit and continuing it`s legacy. Will that be StarCraft II? Noone can say for certain at this point. What we can do, however, is to help it, support it and hope for the best.
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Someone with your mindset is running things over at Blizzard.
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I had the same sentiments as the OP a couple months ago. Now, I think that BW can stick around once SC2 comes out. Warcraft 2 has managed to stay alive even though Warcraft 3 has been out for years. I think it entirely depends on the community of players. I will miss the scale that we currently have though.
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On February 02 2010 03:30 Durak wrote:
I had the same sentiments as the OP a couple months ago. Now, I think that BW can stick around once SC2 comes out. Warcraft 2 has managed to stay alive even though Warcraft 3 has been out for years. I think it entirely depends on the community of players. I will miss the scale that we currently have though.
wc2 managed to stay alive? with what, a few hundred players, 1/2 of them being russians?
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wc3 didnt kill wc2, sc did.
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On February 01 2010 10:34 RoieTRS wrote:
Personally, I think sc2 will be absolute shit, and will just rob the bw scene of all its players, and then both communities will die.
This is what I predict.
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On February 02 2010 05:53 BookTwo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2010 03:30 Durak wrote:
I had the same sentiments as the OP a couple months ago. Now, I think that BW can stick around once SC2 comes out. Warcraft 2 has managed to stay alive even though Warcraft 3 has been out for years. I think it entirely depends on the community of players. I will miss the scale that we currently have though. wc2 managed to stay alive? with what, a few hundred players, 1/2 of them being russians?
There's still a group of "good" players who are able to play together on a server. My definition of "stay alive" is if there's good competition to play against.
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On February 02 2010 06:04 vRoOk wrote:
Nothing gold can stay.
This is the first time I'm going to say that Bouncing Souls lyrics are shitty for the occasion.
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Im gonna be playing bw when sc2 comes out. bw has nearly nothing wrong with it
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