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Starcraft Energy Upgrades (OMFG)

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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 00:46:58
January 18 2010 00:46 GMT
#1
When you energy upgrade units those units SPAWN WITH MORE ENERGY? WTF. The upgrade itself even says "adds 50 max energy to your units" in the description when you hover mouse over it. How the fock am I supposed to know your units start with more energy omg this is huge, medics spawning with more energy in TvZ is crazy useful isn't it? LOL.

11 years and I've always thought the energy upgrades just added 50 max energy to the units max. I didn't know energy units will always spawn with 1/4 of their max energy! I thought units ALWAYS spawn with 50 energy, comsats always start with 50 energy, vessels always pop with 50 energy... it's just been my standard way of thinking for YEARS with any and every energy unit/building.

Wow I'm retarded.

This is ridiculous how could I never have heard/known about this? I watch a million reps and I never noticed it, do top players even do it much and I just have never noticed? wow wtf! I never EVER research energy upgrades because I never really thought my units get to 200/200 energy much anyway so I always thought it was pointless. The only energy upgrade I thought was worth it was Arbiters for late game because they get a recall+stasis and you usually save their energy for key battles and recall timings and stuff but I don't even play protoss so I would never notice the units spawning with more energy.

omfg this has srsly changed my world, I'm adding a poll just for the hell of it, I couldn't have been the only one that didn't know about this, could I?

[image loading]

Poll: Did you know the energy upgrades have units spawn with more energy?
(Vote): Yes scrub I've known about this shit for years it's common knowledge.
(Vote): no wtf omfg units spawn with more than 50 energy after the energy upgrade WTF?



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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
January 18 2010 00:49 GMT
#2
I like how after discovering this you picked one of the few examples (Medics) for which it really doesn't justify the cost =)

HT 62 vs 50, Arbiter 62 vs 50, and to a lesser extent Vessel 62 vs 50 - now THAT is a big difference.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 00:50:45
January 18 2010 00:50 GMT
#3
dude everyone knew about this but me. wtf I feel so left out.

YES SOMEBODY ELSE VOTED NO I'M NOT ALONE!
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 18 2010 00:51 GMT
#4
Yes scrub I've known about this shit for years it's common knowledge.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
January 18 2010 00:55 GMT
#5
by the time your HT reaches your choke, he can storm. it's so nifty!
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
January 18 2010 00:55 GMT
#6
omg HT 62 vs 50 is insane they get a storm SO MUCH FASTER LOL.
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
January 18 2010 00:56 GMT
#7
WOW, i didnt know this!
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
January 18 2010 00:56 GMT
#8
maybe its because you use the base of your pinky finger to hit ctrl, which is why you never knew about the energy upgrade?
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 00:59:47
January 18 2010 00:58 GMT
#9
Add this to your list of shit you didn't know as well http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=68545&currentpage=114

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Did you know about gates and nexus?
[image loading]

Poll: Did you already know?
(Vote): yes
(Vote): no

..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
ranzo77333
Profile Joined January 2010
United States27 Posts
January 18 2010 01:00 GMT
#10
i feel way stupid now i thought u all units with energy started with 50 and could get the max up by 50 man this will be more useful now
I love Dark Templars
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
January 18 2010 01:01 GMT
#11
On January 18 2010 09:55 LuckyFool wrote:
omg HT 62 vs 50 is insane they get a storm SO MUCH FASTER LOL.

yea, that and ht is definitely worth it any for 3 storms instead of 2 if u have a HT defending an expansion...
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Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
January 18 2010 01:03 GMT
#12
Only the Dark Archon doesn't get the extra starting energy when you upgrade it.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
January 18 2010 01:04 GMT
#13
wow no way i never fucking knew this in 11 years. jesus
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 01:07:53
January 18 2010 01:05 GMT
#14
On January 18 2010 10:03 Nikoner wrote:
Only the Dark Archon doesn't get the extra starting energy when you upgrade it.
are you fuking me or is this true?

(goes to try it in single player asaply)

edit: It's true! WTF?! I'm so confused and shocked right now it isn't even funny.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
January 18 2010 01:07 GMT
#15
this is kind of important
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 18 2010 01:09 GMT
#16
On January 18 2010 09:58 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Add this to your list of shit you didn't know as well http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=68545&currentpage=114

+ Show Spoiler +
Did you know about gates and nexus?
[image loading]

Poll: Did you already know?
(Vote): yes
(Vote): no



Whoa... totally didn't know about that. Could he fit a probe in there to kill off the ling?
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
January 18 2010 01:09 GMT
#17
On January 18 2010 09:55 Liquid`NonY wrote:
by the time your HT reaches your choke, he can storm. it's so nifty!

helps a LOT in PvZ when 1 gate ing haha (esp if u get it early)
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 01:11:52
January 18 2010 01:11 GMT
#18
On January 18 2010 09:56 StorrZerg wrote:
maybe its because you use the base of your pinky finger to hit ctrl, which is why you never knew about the energy upgrade?
are you mocking me? =p

that def makes it easier for my hotkey assignments, BY FAR. I dunno how easy it would be to pull off with smaller hands though.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
January 18 2010 01:14 GMT
#19
On January 18 2010 09:55 Liquid`NonY wrote:
by the time your HT reaches your choke, he can storm. it's so nifty!

Lol I actually learned this from you nony, I can't remember when but it was in one of your FPVod's I think. Really interesting.

But yeah, I never realized it either. Its only worth it for certain units though I think, I don't believe medic is justifiable. Oh and also just so you know it doesn't work for Dark Archon's since they morph from the 2 DT's. I feel like there is another unit it doesn't work for but I just can't remember.

Anyway I hope this revelation served you well :D
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TeH_Mentalist
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Korea (South)244 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-18 01:17:19
January 18 2010 01:16 GMT
#20
dumbass
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j/k but seriously? how fast did you think energy replenished than?
AND you have to research K to give templar more starting/max energy. + Show Spoiler +
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