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SCBW Coaching: Update 3

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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 19:15:26
January 05 2010 11:30 GMT
#1
As you might have seen in these blogs: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=103660

And: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107110

I am currently coaching SCBW for 10$ an hour.

As an update I'd like to discuss some plans for continual growth in this endeavor. So far it has gone really well and I have had lots of individuals come to me ranging from B+ up-and-comers to D- nubs struggling to understand this glorious game. So far the results have all been positive which is promising!

I am enrolled in my final classes for college so I can now shape my schedule and openly discuss when I am available.

As of now, Tuesdays and Thursdays are mostly filled up with class time and probably are not conducive to a good training session. However, Monday, Weds, Friday and most weekends ARE OPEN for training.

Additionally, I'd like to offer deals that are both productive for you (the prospective student/customer) and myself:

DEALS
1. If you are a first time student, a 2 hour session is now only 15$ as oppose to the 20$ regular price. This means you get 30 minutes free. The idea is that I want to expose my teaching prowess to more people and hopefully grow my business while not costing you as much with a first time experience.

2. If you purchase a bundle of hours exceeding 4 hours you will get 5$ off each hour purchased after the 4 hours. That means, if you purchase 6 hours of training at once you will pay only 50$

3. Returning customers who purchase 4 hours of training at once get 1 hour free along with the deal discussed in #2. This means for 40$ they get 6 hours of training. This however is a 1 time offer per returning customer.

So hopefully this has good feed back! Let me know your thoughts and as always PM me if you have q's or post in here.

As always, I encourage you to read the customer reviews provided in the first link.
As an update, I can now host games so there is no restriction that way.

There is critical discourse in this thread that allows for individuals to consider this coaching with both perspectives in mind. Please, if you are on the fence, read my post on page 4 before ruling it out. This has been a good thing for many including myself and I would hate to miss the opportunity to work with you because of the words of misguided or uninformed (for the most part) individuals
I look forward to doing business with you all!

***
ven
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 19:28:48
January 05 2010 11:36 GMT
#2
You can reach the rainbow. I'll be there to help.
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
January 05 2010 11:44 GMT
#3
On January 05 2010 20:36 ven wrote:
You might wanna get your facts straight so that it doesn't seem like you're ripping people off with misleading slogans.

i don't understand. what is misleading?
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
January 05 2010 11:51 GMT
#4
the exponential part I think
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
January 05 2010 11:51 GMT
#5
Yeah I am thoroughly confused..

Also I have had over 30 students and none of which were "ripped off" I think we can go ahead and rule out a scandal at this point.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24725 Posts
January 05 2010 11:57 GMT
#6
I think he's just nitpicking #2 like distant_voice suggested. It isn't technically an exponentially growing benefit, although it's clear from your description that you simply get five dollars off per hour over 4 that you purchase so I don't see a problem.
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Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
January 05 2010 11:57 GMT
#7
I've been thinking about lessons, you accept money though pay-pal right?
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BaltA
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Norway849 Posts
January 05 2010 11:59 GMT
#8
Do you help only Zerg players, because ur Zerg obviously, or do u know everything about every race?
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
January 05 2010 12:04 GMT
#9
I'm thinking about doing this eventually, and now seems like the best time.

A question though:

How useful do you think this would be for someone who has played StarCraft only minimally (I'm talking a few games on Battlenet, a year or two ago), without any build order knowledge. The only thing they have going for them is the most basic understanding of the game.
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 12:17:27
January 05 2010 12:13 GMT
#10
Well, even if you need to learn the basics, you can bet that Inc will make it easier for you to learn than if you were to learn yourself.

I have a bit of an off-topic question.
What's the average pay per hour for people in high school/college in the USA?
ven
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 12:16:42
January 05 2010 12:14 GMT
#11
Sorry for the confusion, I was just trying to help.
I never said that you were ripping people off nor that you were trying to.
The statement just bothered me because it increases the the discount's perceived value which might put people off if they notice the fallacy whether it's unintentional or not.
You can reach the rainbow. I'll be there to help.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
January 05 2010 12:24 GMT
#12
On January 05 2010 20:59 BaltA wrote:
Do you help only Zerg players, because ur Zerg obviously, or do u know everything about every race?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=103660
Here he says his other races max out at C+. So I wouldn't say learn from him. If you are a Terran, I think Gretorp was offering lessons.
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orangeshines
Profile Joined September 2008
United Kingdom202 Posts
January 05 2010 12:34 GMT
#13
lame
Substandard
Profile Joined October 2008
Italy270 Posts
January 05 2010 13:27 GMT
#14
On January 05 2010 21:34 orangeshines wrote:
lame


y?
because he isn't doing it for free? Obviously there would be to much demand if that were the case + there would be no incentive for Incontrol.

10 $ are pretty cheap after all for an hour of tutoring. I can see this being worthwile for people who want to get better but are somehow stuck at a specific lvl.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6990 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 13:46:01
January 05 2010 13:44 GMT
#15
That is so cheap, imo. every single starting player (or better obvs) who can afford this should insta call this offer if you're serious about getting better in SC.

Had you offered this a year ago I would've been one of the first in line.
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
January 05 2010 13:51 GMT
#16
bw classes coming back? lol i remember years ago when it started, satanik(a guy from greece) would give 100h for 100€ and ppl flamed him as hell for destroying their business
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
orangeshines
Profile Joined September 2008
United Kingdom202 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 14:04:24
January 05 2010 13:53 GMT
#17
Because a defining trait of the Starcaft community was its volunteer contributions, amazing amount of work that some people put in to write articles, bring news, upload/seed vods, write great strategy articles etc.
Imagine where we would be now if those people attempted to monetize their contributions.
It just defies the whole spirit of the community.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 14:18:25
January 05 2010 14:16 GMT
#18
I think this is getting a bit out of hand tbh. While it's cool to make a little money from teaching a game, you want to make it into a growing business. C'mon, it's Starcraft.

I think this is kind of stupid, you are not *that* good in all honesty. Don't make this into a way to pay for college or your daily life expenses, that's just greedy. The community is built on contribution and you just want to make a buck from bad players.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
January 05 2010 14:23 GMT
#19
On January 05 2010 20:59 BaltA wrote:
Do you help only Zerg players, because ur Zerg obviously, or do u know everything about every race?


There are other people who will teach you other races, its best to go with people who you are the same main race as.

In other news!!! I am now offering protoss lessons for C and bellow >_> ...jk
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
January 05 2010 14:37 GMT
#20
Hey Incontrol, I dunno if my lat problem was fixed yet but sometime next week can we try and see if it can work lol!
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