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ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 21:31:13
December 28 2009 21:30 GMT
#1
Well my friend tuned my guitar correctly a few days ago. I finally decided to give the guitar another go but let's get straight to the point. How do I play this part of the song "When September Ends" by Greenday.

[image loading]


Well if you can't see it, I have to play an open string for E and the first fret for B. Do I pick pluck both of them at the same time or individually. It doesn't correct when I play them both together. Am i doing something wrong? Help would be appreciated.

Edit: I don't know why final fantasy 7 advent children keeps appearing when i make screenshots but it's an awesome movie so whatever

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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
December 28 2009 21:35 GMT
#2
dunno how the song goes, but according to the tab you play both strings at the same time
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Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
December 28 2009 21:38 GMT
#3
for the first two circled "chords" you hold down the first fret on the second string (the thinnest string is the "first" string) then strum both the first and second strings at the same time.

it is the same technique for all chords, just look closely at what notes it wants you to hold.
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DeathByMonkeys
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States742 Posts
December 28 2009 21:48 GMT
#4
I felt obligated to open this thread since I have a guitar in my hands as I'm surfting TL...
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11598 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 21:49:47
December 28 2009 21:49 GMT
#5
on a piece like this, you don't strum as these aren't chords, they are seperate notes so pluck don't strum
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vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
December 28 2009 21:56 GMT
#6
Play them both at the same time. plucking.
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Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2756 Posts
December 28 2009 21:56 GMT
#7
Don't use a plectrum on this one. Pluck the together-notes with your pointing finger, middle finger and or ring finger, all at the same time.
Freyr
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States500 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 22:01:51
December 28 2009 22:00 GMT
#8
On December 29 2009 06:49 CaucasianAsian wrote:
on a piece like this, you don't strum as these aren't chords, they are seperate notes so pluck don't strum


What? Look at the sheet music - you are clearly are playing chords. Some of them technically aren't chords (chords require three notes) but you are still playing notes at the same time.

I think whether or not you "strum" just depends on whether you are playing this with a plectrum or with your fingers, but you are most definitely playing the notes in question at the same time. (Edit: just noticed navane's post - go with what he says!)

Good luck have fun with your new guitar!
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
December 28 2009 22:04 GMT
#9
That's creepy that your screenshots have a phantom picture in them... Maybe you have two monitors?
BeefyEnchilada
Profile Joined October 2009
United States50 Posts
December 28 2009 22:09 GMT
#10
Since they're adjacent strings it should be extremely easy to use your pick and just play them both very quickly so it sounds simultaneous. No need to put down your pick or anything. I seriously doubt anyone in Green Day is good enough at guitar to switch between plectrum picking and finger picking quickly anyway :p

As it's written, I would use a pick and just play both notes at the same time with it.
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Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2756 Posts
December 28 2009 22:22 GMT
#11
BeefyEnchilada 's got a point there. Since it's a green day song, they probably do it with pick. And since all the notes are adjacent, it should be doable. Hit the strings at the same time. It's like you try to hit the second string but the first one is 'in the way,' that way you will hit them at the same time, with as few delay as possible.
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
December 28 2009 22:46 GMT
#12
On December 29 2009 06:49 CaucasianAsian wrote:
on a piece like this, you don't strum as these aren't chords, they are seperate notes so pluck don't strum


ahh damn you're right I didn't realize it was green day lolll

This song probably needs alot of finesse to make sound good too I would start with something easier OP..
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
December 28 2009 22:46 GMT
#13
On December 29 2009 07:22 Navane wrote:
BeefyEnchilada 's got a point there. Since it's a green day song, they probably do it with pick.

I laughed (if it was supposed to be an insult)
Its worth learning how to use a pick and still finger pick (ie. using your thumb and index to hold the pick to play the bass note, and using your other fingers on your right hand to strum/fingerpick the other strings. Its a talent that will come in handy over time for some songs.
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zoast
Profile Joined February 2007
United States91 Posts
December 28 2009 22:55 GMT
#14
I listened to the song live on youtube, he plays the C major chord in the third position, which should be easier for you since you say your problem is the picking patterns

instead of
---0------0
---1------1---1
-------------
--2-----2--
-3----3----
------------
play
---------------
----5-----5---
----5-----5--5
---5----5-------
-3---3--------
-------------
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zoast
Profile Joined February 2007
United States91 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-28 23:25:15
December 28 2009 22:58 GMT
#15
On December 29 2009 07:46 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2009 07:22 Navane wrote:
BeefyEnchilada 's got a point there. Since it's a green day song, they probably do it with pick.

I laughed (if it was supposed to be an insult)
Its worth learning how to use a pick and still finger pick (ie. using your thumb and index to hold the pick to play the bass note, and using your other fingers on your right hand to strum/fingerpick the other strings. Its a talent that will come in handy over time for some songs.

yep, it helps develop your right hand str and dex, so it could help tapping come easier later also.

edit:
also, in bar 12 (the 4th bar in your photo) I don't think there's a need to take the notes there too literally (specifically im referring to the note clusters, the ones that sound simultaneously), just fret an open G chord and get close to that picking pattern (mainly hitting the first two notes and the top of the first cluster (B string fret 3) ) and you'll be fine
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JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
December 28 2009 23:28 GMT
#16
play with fingers, its superior
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MrShankly
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United Kingdom371 Posts
December 29 2009 01:51 GMT
#17
On December 29 2009 06:30 ilistis wrote:
Well my friend tuned my guitar correctly a few days ago. I finally decided to give the guitar another go but let's get straight to the point. How do I play this part of the song "When September Ends" by Greenday.

[image loading]


Well if you can't see it, I have to play an open string for E and the first fret for B. Do I pick pluck both of them at the same time or individually. It doesn't correct when I play them both together. Am i doing something wrong? Help would be appreciated.

Edit: I don't know why final fantasy 7 advent children keeps appearing when i make screenshots but it's an awesome movie so whatever

It wil be both together, you can use a C shape too play that whole bar (this will give you good fingering for it)
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ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
December 29 2009 03:39 GMT
#18
thanks for the help guys, i tried plucking them together and it works.I will also try to learn finger plucking too. If anyone has easy songs to recommend, please do so.

I'm a newbie who loves music and that's why I got my guitar.

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