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Sarens should be a great coach, great skills and a lot of time to devote to his students since he has been relieved of his duties to perform in TSL2.
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I haven't seen Sarens online lately either :/
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Yo!
Usually I can play at night (20:30 CET onwards)
Maybe you should list our races too.
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Hi,
I have play on most days, really. I've just not been overly active lately, but I'll make sure to return from my hiatus.
Seeing as how I'm now on holiday leave, I can practice anytime of the day the next few weeks.
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id add the races but im not sure how to do those fancy race icon thingies
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Ninja Explosion - Coached by Besiger and SarenS
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Zicon_small.png) Tuke - D+ - Joined
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Ticon_small.png) Nikoner - D - Joined
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Picon_small.png) Belano - D- - Joined
beamerkun - D- - Joined
Pholon - D - Joined
Xypski - D - Joined
Quote me and copy paste it into the op.
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During schoolweek I usually play between 19-23 (CET+2), but since my holiday starts tomorrow I will be able to play more
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I usually have a fluid working schedule, but my evenings are mostly free, so I'd prefer something after 18:00-19:00 CET.
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I suggest that, despite being terribad, Alur is the second coach should Sarens decide not to participate! D:
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updated the layout a bit thanks to our new coach quirinus.cry (he's a real go getter !!)
also we will probably set up some fixed training session around 20:00 every Monday and Wednesday, if most of you cant make it at that time we will shift it about.
Sarens is still MIA, so it looks like we will be getting a new coach soon.
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Hi everyone! I'm your new coach. Add quirinus.cry to your FL.
If you need anything just PM me with questions or replays, or ask me when I'm online. I'll make sure to harass you with advices when I see you online and we can play some games too. 
As far as my credentials go, I have a B apprentice (we'll he's not my apprentice anymore), who might be stronger than me now, and a few C-/C!
I'm also the co-leader of the .cry clan, so I have some experience in CWs and various other stuff. So we should be fine. 
Let's rock this League!
Cheers! 
PS: Thanks to coach besi for inviting me. <3
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Nice to meet you quirinus
Besiger you could add my MSN to the op: tuke110@hotmail.com .If someone would like to contact me via it.
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Likewise.
We managed to get something going yesterday, Tuke and Nikon were online when I decided to come so they played a few games and we commented about their play. :D
Would like the rest of the players to come today if they can.
EDIT:
vanamond42@hotmail.com if anyone wants to ask something.
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From tomorrow evening I will have a lot more time, so you will see me online much more often :D Thanks for all todays games, I think they gave me a lot :D
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Nice.
Today when I got online, Tuke, Nikon, beamerkun and Xypski were there so I obsed you playing a bit. Belano is still missing in action. I didn't get the chance to see Pholon, hope to catch him online, long live the Liquipedia crew! :D
Anyway, it was fun today. Go team!
Here's the conclusion:
- Didn't have the chance to talk to or see Xypski play, he had to go, but we'll fix that next time. Need them tosses in the team.
- I'm happy with Tuke's play, just try to macro hard. We'll work on it some more later, in my opinion we could get you to an ok C- rank in no time. :D I'll have to see your other matchups though.
- Nikon, try to spend your money. Mutas -> 3-4 turrets on the main and exp, 1-2 turrets near rax exit/ramp. Keep marines near turrets, no need to be heroic and chase the mutas - a heroic marine is a dead marine. Get like 3 medics vs mutas, 2 is not enough. Try not to delay tech/macro because you're harrased. Try to keep an eye for lurkers, if you see the den, hydras or lurks, you should have 2-3 bunkers on your exp.
- beamerkun you need to put that sunken up! If you went 2 hat gas, when the third hatch is started -> sunken. put down a hydra den as soon as you get 50 gas, and make about 3 hydra *immediately* when the den is finished. Otherwise you'll regret it later. :D You don't want too much hydras at the start, just to defend vs 2 port wraith or vults, the rest goes to drones. (unless it's 1 base mech push - 1 tank 4-5 vults 4-5 scvs, then you need all hydra)
You can even make more than 3 hydras if it feels safer that way, but just remember to make drones, and expand vs mech early on, then later produce units, since mech usually doesn't attack early. If you can, delay his second. Need to put down hatches when you get extra money! Check out the pictures below to see how to wall on desti.
Walling on desti vs vults
If you expect just 1 vult:
They'll usually go around the minerals, route 1. But if you have low drones on the exp, they can go 2. If it's just 1 vult it'll die. A good trick for terrans is to send an scv first to soak up the first hit, so the vult can pass.
If you're afraid of speedvult runby (3-4 or more vults), this is much better:
Here it's important that you block the passage with drones, like the drones in the bottom blue circle. The big blue circle is usually filled with some drones, so prevents that passage, but if you move too many, it can be open again. Keep an eye for that, and move the rest of the drones there.
You should have at least 3 hydra by then, try to keep vults from passing untill the hydras are there. But even if 1-2 vults somehow make it past that, the hydras&drones will kill them. (watch out for mines)
This wall also covers the mineral line vs 1 vult. You can also put it 1 square below if you want.
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best coach EVAR !!
also guys take not, after we get a 3rd coach (il most likely try to find a protoss) we will split the team into 3 groups, i will handle the terrans, quirinus the zergs, and the 3rd coach the protosses, im doing this because i feel we can be more efficient this way because i dont really know all that much about non T matchups and dont wanna give flawed info to anyone, of course you will be able to ask for help from all the other coaches and general info, we will all still hang out, play and learn together, just when you will have some general BO question or matchup problem i will recommend that you go to your race coach if hes available.
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Oh god you guys are great! That team splitting sound pretty nice, hopefully it just doesn't split our team for real or something like that.
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I'm here now! Mass gaming as I speak. Sorry I didn't answer besiger, was microing goons like crazy.
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On December 24 2009 03:14 Belano wrote:
I'm here now! Mass gaming as I speak. Sorry I didn't answer besiger, was microing goons like crazy.
+ Show Spoiler +
Just kidding. :D
Good to have you active finally.
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I have been rather busy this day and probably I will be also tomorrow.
Edit: lol @ picture
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On December 24 2009 06:16 Tuke wrote:
I have been rather busy this day and probably I will be also tomorrow.
Edit: lol @ picture
Oh, again, grats on the first position on the CPL. Keep it up. :D
Guys, I'm going away until like 7.1. I'll come online here and there though. And I think I'll be there on the 2.1. team war.
I'll ask each of you to make a rep pack of your latest games a few days before the evaluation team war. So don't delete them! Or if your autoreplay isn't working, try to save as many, even the losses, especially the losses. You'll send me the dl link over PM's and I'll check them out and see what we can do about improving your performance.
After that,
Until then, besi will take good care of you younglings!
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On December 24 2009 06:14 quirinus wrote:
Good to have you active finally.
Hehe . In my defense I actually had quite a few games played during the very first week of CPL^^.
GL HF anyways!
EDIT: Where can I get autoreplay? Tried googling around without any result.
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On December 24 2009 07:39 Belano wrote:Hehe . In my defense I actually had quite a few games played during the very first week of CPL^^. GL HF anyways! EDIT: Where can I get autoreplay? Tried googling around without any result.
Ah, cool.
Your autoreplay isn't working? Try this, it might work:
Fix: open your iCCup launcher, deactivate chaosplugin, close your launcher, restart it, activate the plugin again, restart it, and it'll work. (thanks to RaGe)
Also, you can see only the first 250 autoreplays when inside starcraft, even if more are saved. Just copy the all but the latest to some other folder and you'll see the new/last ones.
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Nice notes quirinus ... I wish more of the CPL coaches would put up player notes to help their students and give us spectators something to follow.
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On December 24 2009 21:51 lac29 wrote:
Nice notes quirinus ... I wish more of the CPL coaches would put up player notes to help their students and give us spectators something to follow.
Thanks!
Yeah, we don't have much to hide, it's mostly the basics, so I posted it here. Also, this way pupils can memorize it better!
@Belano: I mean, if you downloaded the new iCCup Launcher version, the Autoreplay folder is in the Replay folder as always...
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Besiger have you arrenged protoss coach to our team already? I'm just curious
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On December 30 2009 08:23 Nikoner wrote:
Nvm, crisis averted.
What happened? I missed it
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Had some computer problems, but it worked out in the end.
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Evaluation Match:
January 2nd - Saturday
8:00 PM (CET) / 2:00 PM (EST)
Ok, everyone practice their matchup from now on, and preferably on the designated map. The ace player should also practice HBR (I assume it's the new version - Neo Heartbreak Ridge, with those extra passages.)
Watch a few VODs of progamers on those maps and with those matchups. Also download some replays from the GG.net replay database.
Make sure to be aware of your map unique features, as well as the map layout. Be aware of any special and usual rushes/cheeses on your map, and how to scout/avoid them (or use them). See what style is best on this map, but if you feel uncomfortable playing it (there's a good chance for this, since you're all D ranks), just play like you know. Try to understand the general flow of the game from those VODs and replays.
You can use rush/cheese if you feel like it's your best chance to win, or the map is good for that. Otherwise, I'd suggest a straight up game with a little bit of clever moves here and there.
Think of an opening you want to use (practice it over and over till perfection, and then some more), and then think of all the openings your opponent can do. Try to see how would you adapt to them, ie.:
TvP, you went Siege Expand, your opponent takes early first and second expansion - you can push or expand yourself.
If he goes 2 gate, he could be going for early pressure (powergoon), bulldog, make sure you don't go out until you you have at least 3 tanks, make 2 turrets at your exp if you're suspecting bulldog; midgame - scout when he gets his 3rd (it'll be a bit later because he spent more on goons) - since he's using an aggressive build, just try to expand yourself, avoid attacking (if you attack, do so carefully), because he'll have a big army.
Liquipedia is your friend.
Here's the current info on Team 9 players:
Check your opponent, but don't be too focused on them - at D ranks, you are your worst "enemy".
Also, check your stats on those maps.
Everyone, please send me and Besi a PM with some of your games. Guys that are in the lineup try to send more reps of the matchup that you're playing. I want to see how you're doing and point out things you should watch out for.
I'll send suggestion PMs to the people in the lineup. I'll probably post them here after the match, so that the regular people have something to read. xD
The rest of the players should come too, in case we need them for some reason, and to cheer us on!
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Outsider it usually tricky map but not in ZvZ so nothing too weird shouldn't happen.
I'll be away this day and probably come back tomorrow so don't be wondering if I'm not online. 
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Damn holidays taking away valuable practice time ;_; If this keeps up, I'll have to go with the nuke rush anyway...
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Gl hf guys! Best of luck to all of you playing tomorrow! I'm going to a LAN to improve^^
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Good luck guys!
And happy New Year!
Hah, have fun Belano.
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Sorry quiri and besi I haven't been able to send any replays to you.Just got home tonight and I decided to spend this night studying maps. Not that I would've played too many games lately but still. :p
Happy new year to everyone!
ps. Shouldn't we have 1 of every race in lu cuz that is rule in proleague?
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On January 02 2010 10:49 Tuke wrote:
Sorry quiri and besi I haven't been able to send any replays to you.Just got home tonight and I decided to spend this night studying maps. Not that I would've played too many games lately but still. :p
Happy new year to everyone!
ps. Shouldn't we have 1 of every race in lu cuz that is rule in proleague?
Yes, I sent l10f a pm about that, I'll see what he responds.
Don't worry, this is not a military school. ;D
I didn't have much time etc. lately too, but once I get back to my place I'll be online more so I can help you guys. (that's like, after sunday/monday)
I won't be able to make it to the match, so besi should see that everything is ok.
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We agreed with bluemanrocks that we will play our match about 15.00. That is good time for both of us.
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Ok, cool.
By the way, l10f responded and said that we don't need to replace any players.
We'll just make sure not to repeat this mistake again.
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Sorry about not sending replays also, these holidays kinda wrecked my practice time. Having a TvT doesn't help either, even Koreans dodge me now  Even so, I will work hard to win today's match and set the spirit for the whole league.
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Don't worry, I don't have much time too, sorry for not being around lately.
Make team 9 ragequit! :D
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goddamn stupid timezones T_T confusing me all the time... I look retarded to my opponent now
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tuke and pholon come on now ASAP
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game about to start, pressure is on 
I lost
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I just sent the replay via pm to both coaches and l10f
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Roffles
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Just popping in to say don't get discouraged! It's only an evaluation match. Don't be too hard on yourself.
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I'm not, I just played stupidly and lost :p
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beamerkun and Pholon send me your replays, I need to send them to l10f.
Looks like this is the score:
Good job Pholon, you saved us from 4-0! :D
Nikoner, beamerkun and Tuke, don't worry about the losses, just try harder next time!
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the lineups for the next week have been sent in, everyone come online so we can talk about it, also when its match time please EVERYONE try to come, even those who arent in the lineup in case we have to switch players, and also if you are gonna postphone your matches let me know via PM.
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The draw is out! Make sure to practice the mu and the map.
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YAY ZvT!
Besiger should put that on op
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Here's the current info on Team 2 players:
By the way, do you guys wanna reschedule this because of TSL2?
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I love how quirinus seems to be stalking the team that we're playing against. I hope they notice and get unsettled somewhat.
I'd rather not reschedule my game, since I have to go out at like 3 PM EST - friend is throwing a birthday party, can't miss it. The official time is the last possible time at which I can play it
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It's good to know your opponent. ;D
Ok, np, play it then.
Btw, OP updated.
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What are the results so far? I won my game.
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Good job on winning Tuke.
I lost due to stupid play on my part. Morale is low, I need a hug
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GG guys, Tuke and Xypski send me replays please. Good job on winning Tuke!
Watched Nikon's replay, TT, macrooo, had you macroed, you would have tanks and stuff on your exp and he wouldn't be able to backstab you. :hug:
Gonna watch Pholon's replay tomorrow, I'm tierd now.
Anyway guys, don't worry too much about cute stuff and too exact build orders, just MACRO and you'll win any D/D+ player pretty easily.
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I feel like I misplayed the game when I moved out. Normally, I wouldn't have but at this point I felt like I could just overpower him and end it. Guess not.
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Hi,
any fancy site you'd prefer me using to send you the replay?
Alternativly, could I have your e-mail?
I lost my game (according to people who are better than I) due to bad macro (I didn't add gateways fast enough), as well as suiciding my army due to bad positioning.
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Upload on repdepot, make private and send links to the coaches. That's what I do usually.
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Any site will do, but replaydepot is cool.
vanamond42@hotmail.com is my mail.
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Ok, I got all replays, thanks guys.
I think we're playing against:
Team Chicken and Waffles - Coached by Lz and Future
TheFallofTroy - D+
Aware-- - D+
Kantankasaurus - D
fatty77 - D-
Holgerius - D
K_A_R_A_S - D
Their blog:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107465
Map order:
Match Point
Outsider
Heartbreak Ridge
Fighting Spirit
Destination
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
You guys should cheese vs Aware. It'd bring a good response.
Edit: Shit, I forgot he got banned.
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On January 12 2010 06:01 Roffles wrote:
You guys should cheese vs Aware. It'd bring a good response.
Edit: Shit, I forgot he got banned.
lol, I bet. :D
Well that doesn't stop him from reading.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On January 12 2010 09:15 quirinus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 06:01 Roffles wrote:
You guys should cheese vs Aware. It'd bring a good response.
Edit: Shit, I forgot he got banned. lol, I bet. :D Well that doesn't stop him from reading.
Him reading isn't fun. It's all about getting a response from the guy.
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On January 12 2010 11:00 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 09:15 quirinus wrote:On January 12 2010 06:01 Roffles wrote:
You guys should cheese vs Aware. It'd bring a good response.
Edit: Shit, I forgot he got banned. lol, I bet. :D Well that doesn't stop him from reading. Him reading isn't fun. It's all about getting a response from the guy.
It is if you imagine him dying because he's not able to respond.
Anyway, the lineups will be decided soon, so you will know what map/matchup to practice.
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Has anyone seen Belano? I'd like to put him in the lineup since he didn't get the chance to play, but he's not responding nor anything, so I'll have to skip him again.
Sent PM to all people with the map they're playing on this week.
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On January 13 2010 05:49 quirinus wrote:
Has anyone seen Belano? I'd like to put him in the lineup since he didn't get the chance to play, but he's not responding nor anything, so I'll have to skip him again.
Nope, I haven't seen him either
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Damn, I was already excited for seeing lineups, but Chicken & Waffles haven't send it yet -.-
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Ok we got W.O since their lineup still isn't up. :/
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Meh. Get online so I can practice some Protoss in the meantime.
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Yeah, WO... too bad.
Anyway, we'll focus on the next week now. I'll see with besi what lineup we'll send, probably the same.
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Ok, I sent everyone their map on PM. Start practicing it, and we shall see the opponent races in a day or so.
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Made in Korea vs Ninja Explosion
Ruken< Outsider>Tuke
Face_1< Heartbreak Ridge >beamerkun
Jadoreoov (W.O. win)< Fighting Spirit >Xypski
KCrazy< Destination >Pholon
Xenocide < Match Point > Tuke
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Pholon is not a toss, wtf Tuke
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hey guys, just wanna say im sorry for not being online for as much as i would like, its exam month and im getting rolled over here so i mostly come online after 22:00 CET, i hope atleast quir can give you some help.
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Made in Korea vs Ninja Explosion
Ruken< Outsider>Tuke
Face_1< Heartbreak Ridge >beamerkun
Jadoreoov (W.O. win)< Fighting Spirit >Xypski
KCrazy< Destination >Pholon
Xenocide < Match Point > Tuke
Good job everyone!
Sorry for not being around much, as besi said, it's exam time. :/
Anyway, after this thursday I should be online more often.
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I have exam week next week so I am little bit busy. I try to play as much as I can and show up in matches.
Also I can't play on 27th of february cuz my granpa's 80's are then.
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Ok, no problem Tuke.
Guys, do you have some Toss friends that wish to play in CPL ? We're going to have to replace Belano.
If not, I'll maybe find someone, or post in the CPL topic and see if someone wants to join.
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Make a new blog or something if you want to search for a replacement. One of the other coaches seemed to have great success with this tactic.
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Yeah, I know. Just wanted to check with you guys if you have some friends, but I always forget to ask. It's not a problem to find new people.
I guess I'll just make a post or a blog about it.
Btw, Belano just contacted me and asked to be replaced.
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I asked Gao Xi and he said that I got w.o from thesecretaznman T_T
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YAY finally got c-
Here is the replay of the game that took me to the c- side. Just for lulz (allin vs allin)
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Gogo!
Congratulations on C- tuke!
Watched that replay, funny toss. xD
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Congratulations on C-, Team Captain Tuke!
Coach quirinus, get back to stalking!
Edit: Just watched the replay, I'm not quite sure what his build is supposed to accomplish - 1 gate tech into 4 gate off of one base all in, what the hell is that?
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Well I see that you need a protoss player and i would gladly fill the spot. I was lurking through the blog section and casually found this topic. Anyway im more known with the nickname kasda.cry...yes im in the same clan as quirinus but he didnt mention to me anything (You shall see your mother quir!!!). Im a D+ rank, very noob and i think that this will be a great motivator for me to play more. Waiting for the answer
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On February 05 2010 00:25 MangeKyO wrote:
Well I see that you need a protoss player and i would gladly fill the spot. I was lurking through the blog section and casually found this topic. Anyway im more known with the nickname kasda.cry...yes im in the same clan as quirinus but he didnt mention to me anything (You shall see your mother quir!!!). Im a D+ rank, very noob and i think that this will be a great motivator for me to play more. Waiting for the answer
lol kasda how did you find this so fast? :D
Well, I don't see you on msn much, and when you're online (dunno how often that is) you're on some smurfs so I didn't get the chance. wakka.cry is also a good candidate for CPL. Anyway, I didn't want to seem like I favor my teammates over other people, so that's another reason.
You already have a clan (and clan wars, like today: be there!!!) so it might be easier for you to improve, but I like it that you say it will be a good motivator. Anyway, to be fair to others and give them a chance, I have to leave the topic open for a while, and also, I need to discuss it with besiger first. (he's afk on msn now)
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Recruit Incontrol imo, should make a baller addition to our team.
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Ok i understand then ill wait. If in the end there is no option you can take me. It should be fun to play CPL
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On February 07 2010 05:47 Nikoner wrote:
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Dunno rly, someone who is active, is a nice person and has passion. I haven't played with them so can't say more :p
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Well, we chose chrisSquire as our new toss. Waiting for his response now...
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Happy birthday quirinus, time to get married and have lots of children now! Have good health and luck
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Haha thanks! :D
Kids, eh, no way Jose! I'm still free as a bird, and will stay like that for a while. xD
Btw, add [CPL]RiceDream. Apparently he can't be much active this week. T_T
And I'll probably be replacing Xypski in a few days, so we should get a new active toss.
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ZerO to by.hero vs Ninja ExplosionPifualkd< Destination > Nikoner Loss< Match Point > Pholon JonsaBoy< Outsider > Tuke eNoq< Heartbreak Ridge > beamerkun ACE < Fighting Spirit > ACE>
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Hi,
firstly I'd like to apologise for any inconvinience my absence may have caused in terms of organizing the games.This has been due to me partially having had computer issues as well as me being away from home as of late. Secondly, I'd like to resign from what little responsability I have towards the team, as I simply do not have it in me to fufill these in a suiting manner.
I'd like to thank you all for the time, however little, we've spend togther. Also I'd like to say that the effort put into this by the coaches, especially quirinus, far surpasses anything I'd phatomed in the beginning of this project, as well as that I'd ever expect to encounter on an internet forum.
Regards,
Xypski.
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On February 14 2010 05:54 Xypski wrote:
Hi,
firstly I'd like to apologise for any inconvinience my absence may have caused in terms of organizing the games.This has been due to me partially having had computer issues as well as me being away from home as of late. Secondly, I'd like to resign from what little responsability I have towards the team, as I simply do not have it in me to fufill these in a suiting manner.
I'd like to thank you all for the time, however little, we've spend togther. Also I'd like to say that the effort put into this by the coaches, especially quirinus, far surpasses anything I'd phatomed in the beginning of this project, as well as that I'd ever expect to encounter on an internet forum.
Regards,
Xypski.
Thank you. I'm sorry that you're not able to play/hang around anymore.
Best of luck to you.
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ZerO to by.hero vs Ninja Explosion 3-2Pifualkd< Destination > NikonerLoss< Match Point > Pholon JonsaBoy< Outsider > TukeeNoq< Heartbreak Ridge > beamerkun Necosarius< Fighting Spirit > Tuke
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Sorry guys, gonna be away for a few days, good luck!
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