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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 12 2009 05:44 GMT
#1
So ocne again I am looking for some good science fiction books but this focused on Military Science Fiction, I read Starship Troopers a while back and enjoyed it now I am looking for some more, perhaps a series of books.

I browsed the Barnes & Noble website and came across the Heritage Trilogy by Ian Douglas, has anyone read the books if so are they good? Or does anyone have any other books in mind that they think are good?



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arcticStorm
Profile Joined January 2009
United States295 Posts
November 12 2009 05:47 GMT
#2
Ender's game ftw
This statement is a lie.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
November 12 2009 05:48 GMT
#3
The Enders game series if you haven't read them. Especially the later ones with Bean and company on earth a lot of that is military and politics.
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ShroomyD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Australia245 Posts
November 12 2009 05:49 GMT
#4
Death's Head by David Gunn.
아나코자본주의
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
November 12 2009 06:01 GMT
#5
On November 12 2009 14:47 arcticStorm wrote:
Ender's game ftw

On November 12 2009 14:48 Slaughter wrote:
The Enders game series if you haven't read them. Especially the later ones with Bean and company on earth a lot of that is military and politics.

This.
Though I find it hard to believe you haven't at least read Ender's Game yet, since it's so well known
Entusman #12
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42668 Posts
November 12 2009 06:13 GMT
#6
I preferred the shadow trilogy to enders game. I found Bean a more interesting character.
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ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
November 12 2009 06:35 GMT
#7
Read the book "Warchild"
Not only will you never hunger for science fiction again, but you will look at interstellar war in an entirely new light.
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RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
November 12 2009 06:37 GMT
#8
I agree that the ender's shadow was more interesting than ender's game, but ender's game had a different theme imo.

Game = isolation of smart people
shadow = overcoming deficiencies.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
November 12 2009 06:45 GMT
#9
Yea, Ender's Game and the Shadow Quartet had very different feels. Read all of them, they're great books.

Well, Shadow Puppets was a bit lacking, but meh, still better than most books.
TranslatorBaa!
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
November 12 2009 06:51 GMT
#10
On November 12 2009 14:48 Slaughter wrote:
The Enders game series if you haven't read them. Especially the later ones with Bean and company on earth a lot of that is military and politics.
Ender's Game and Ender's Shadow are both pretty awesome, but I found that the quality dropped off with each successive book after that. Other people may have other opinions, but I wouldn't recommend the later books.
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11579 Posts
November 12 2009 07:14 GMT
#11
random little fact about Enders Game: Bean is black.

But yea, Enders Game and triology is a must read.
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OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-12 07:17:36
November 12 2009 07:16 GMT
#12
what about Halo?

I've read both Ender's game + sequel (didn't know there were 2 more books o-O)


They are both pretty similar
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koreakool
Profile Joined January 2008
United States334 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-12 07:19:23
November 12 2009 07:19 GMT
#13
Ender's Game is good =D
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
November 12 2009 07:45 GMT
#14
On November 12 2009 16:14 CaucasianAsian wrote:
random little fact about Enders Game: Bean is black.


No, he's half Greek and half black, and his skin color is light enough that he looks out of place in Africa.

I've memorized these books, trust me :<
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Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-12 08:51:42
November 12 2009 07:59 GMT
#15
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers Robert Heinlein + Show Spoiler +
"While powered armor is Starship Troopers' most famous legacy, its influence extends deep into contemporary warfare. Almost half a century after its publication, Starship Troopers is on the reading lists of the United States Army,[32] the United States Marine Corps,[33][34][dead link][35] and the United States Navy.[36] It is the only science fiction novel on the reading list at four of the five United States military academies. When Heinlein wrote Starship Troopers the United States military was a largely conscripted force, with conscripts serving two year hitches. Today the U.S. military has incorporated many ideas similar to Heinlein's concept of an all-volunteer, high-tech strike force. In addition, references to the book keep appearing in military culture. In 2002 a Marine general described the future of Marine Corps clothing and equipment as needing to emulate the Mobile Infantry."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorsai Gordon R. Dickson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forever_War Joe Haldeman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammer's_Slammers David Drake, also Northworld, The Seas of Venus
The Man-Kzin Wars series by Larry Niven
C.A.D.S. (Computerized Attack/Defense System) series by John Sievert
Armor by John Steakley
A Hymn before Battle by John Ringo
Old Man’s Army by John Scalzi
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
November 12 2009 08:00 GMT
#16
The first few books in the Vampire Earth series by E.E. Knight are great. There's now like 8 books in the series now, and I've read up to 7. They're still good, but almost nothing happened at all in the last book.
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Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
November 12 2009 08:04 GMT
#17
On November 12 2009 16:59 Physician wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers Robert Heinlein

Somebody didn't read the op.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-12 08:18:33
November 12 2009 08:04 GMT
#18
On November 12 2009 15:13 KwarK wrote:
I preferred the shadow trilogy to enders game. I found Bean a more interesting character.

I would have hesitated to agree with you until I read Speaker for the Dead/its sequels. Really ruined Ender for me
Entusman #12
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-12 08:08:32
November 12 2009 08:05 GMT
#19
Ok so i've been wondering this and I figure here is a good place to ask.

I read ender's game and I liked it, and I wish to continue in the series. (all of the books, game, shadow...everything.)

What order should I read them in?

(also try not to spoil why in your explanation, since i've only read the first book.)

Edit: Sorry stealth, this is like the third thread of yours I've attempted to semi-hijack for my own means.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-12 08:18:15
November 12 2009 08:17 GMT
#20
On November 12 2009 17:05 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Ok so i've been wondering this and I figure here is a good place to ask.

I read ender's game and I liked it, and I wish to continue in the series. (all of the books, game, shadow...everything.)

What order should I read them in?

(also try not to spoil why in your explanation, since i've only read the first book.)

Edit: Sorry stealth, this is like the third thread of yours I've attempted to semi-hijack for my own means.

If you like the battle school characters/not so far in the future fiction then read the Shadow series next, if you like more theoretical scifi stuff/want to follow Ender's story then read the Speaker for the Dead series
Entusman #12
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 12 2009 08:18 GMT
#21
Can't find anything else that interests me in regards to what Robert A. Heinlein has written, though I I really haven't looked besides Wikipedia though I don't think he wrote anything similar to Starship Troopers.
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Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
November 12 2009 08:19 GMT
#22
If I read Xenocide now can I go back an read shadow later? (without most of it having been spoiled and whatnot) Basically is each series stand alone I guess is what I am trying to ask?
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
November 12 2009 08:49 GMT
#23
thanks for making this thread OP I'm looking for this kind of stuff, but too shy to make a thread about it

already a couple of sweet suggestions above me.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
November 12 2009 08:50 GMT
#24
Yeah, they're stand alone. Chronologically it goes

Game/Shadow -> Shadow series -> Ender in Exile -> Speaker series.

New book coming out later too, Shadows in Flight. Ender in Exile left me slightly disappointed, hopefully Shadows in flight wraps up the Shadow series better.
TranslatorBaa!
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-12 08:57:48
November 12 2009 08:54 GMT
#25
On November 12 2009 17:04 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2009 16:59 Physician wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers Robert Heinlein

Somebody didn't read the op.


somebody doesn't have an inkling of how the engine works (armor!)
try adding instead of subtracting ~
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
November 12 2009 08:58 GMT
#26
When I quoted you that's all that was in your post.
gchan
Profile Joined October 2007
United States654 Posts
November 12 2009 09:53 GMT
#27
On November 12 2009 16:59 Physician wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers Robert Heinlein + Show Spoiler +
"While powered armor is Starship Troopers' most famous legacy, its influence extends deep into contemporary warfare. Almost half a century after its publication, Starship Troopers is on the reading lists of the United States Army,[32] the United States Marine Corps,[33][34][dead link][35] and the United States Navy.[36] It is the only science fiction novel on the reading list at four of the five United States military academies. When Heinlein wrote Starship Troopers the United States military was a largely conscripted force, with conscripts serving two year hitches. Today the U.S. military has incorporated many ideas similar to Heinlein's concept of an all-volunteer, high-tech strike force. In addition, references to the book keep appearing in military culture. In 2002 a Marine general described the future of Marine Corps clothing and equipment as needing to emulate the Mobile Infantry."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorsai Gordon R. Dickson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forever_War Joe Haldeman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammer's_Slammers David Drake, also Northworld, The Seas of Venus
The Man-Kzin Wars series by Larry Niven
C.A.D.S. (Computerized Attack/Defense System) series by John Sievert
Armor by John Steakley
A Hymn before Battle by John Ringo
Old Man’s Army by John Scalzi


Great list. Also the Honor Harrington series by David Weber. It's pretty predictable, but it's entertaining and epic nonetheless.
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
November 12 2009 12:43 GMT
#28
I'd add most stuff by Timothy Zahn, especially the Conquerors trilogy and the SW EU Thrawn books.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
November 12 2009 15:20 GMT
#29
On November 12 2009 16:59 Physician wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forever_War Joe Haldeman


I have to second this. That book was awesome. The sequel... not so much.
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Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
November 12 2009 16:21 GMT
#30
Passage of Arms and the Dragon Never Sleeps by Glen Cook were enjoyable reads for me.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
November 12 2009 16:24 GMT
#31
Basically the Enders series splits off into two mini series that take place thousands of years apart and millions of miles away from each other. Ender's story takes place in the distant future in space, while Bean's is on earth in the few years after the 1st book.
Never Knows Best.
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-12 16:40:20
November 12 2009 16:39 GMT
#32
I believe Orson Scott Card himself recommended Armor by John Steakley in the introduction to one of the editions of Ender's Game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_science_fiction_works_and_authors
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