On November 07 2009 11:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Shawn Lane is the fastest player who retains any sort of melody.
BucketHead is the fastest tapper.
michael romeo is faster tapping than buckethead
buckethead's chromatic stuff is like 16-17 nps, that betcha can't play this lick by romeo is up to 23 nps at the 32nd note parts
none of matters because guthrie govan is the fastest living guitarist who (imo) surpasses lane in his melodic playing
edit @ drhelvetica
600 apm is like 10 nps, which is pretty easy for any serious musician (16th notes at 150 bpm? please). 800 apm is around 13 nps, which is about the speed where shredding starts to sound like shredding. i wouldn't be surprised if there were players who peaked over 1000 apm spamming
@ divinek
cooley is just a wanker, and he's not even a fast wanker at that (maxes out 17 nps picking). that said i still enjoy his solo album haha
Well pressing buttons on a keyboard spamming has just about nothing to do with playing music, and the only true corollary is piano. Other instruments depend on way more things than how fast you can move your fingers downward. And 16th notes at 150 bpm might be easy for shredders, but doing that for a length of time for a piece that requires a lot of musicianship (aka not for the sole purpose of speed) is actually pretty tough. Piano players get all those flurries of notes because they can sustain that speed pretty easily, but when we get into the other instruments it really depends on the piece. Playing in C/F/G with a lot of step-wise motion is waaaaay easier than playing in a less-used key with a lot of leaps on most instruments.
I mean I'm not trying to say shredding is bad to listen to, but it's not a good basis for judging "serious musicians." If we take an up tune for jazz players (~220 bpm), that's like as fast you'll be playing 8th notes, which of course translates to a "slower" 16th-note.
Ok its 3am, I do this shit for a living, I could go on for days... I'm just gonna hit post...
On November 07 2009 17:06 sharkeyanti wrote: I play classical guitar, jazz in a pinch, and I always love getting some free form rock (a la Tortoise/Battles) going. I teach for a lving!
edit: but its 95% classical, the other stuff is just skills ive picked up over the years/when I first started playing
You have made a good choice, nothing beats classical guitar.
And it´s true about shredding, while it´s fast it still requires much less than those pianopieces, it´s all about repeating/triads on those same few scales, of course there are exceptions. Jazz players are freaks but IMO even it loses something when going too fast. Wes Montgomery now that is something.
it might be repetitive arpeggios or scale runs but yngwie and paul gilbert make it sound so good :p
then of course you have the insane freaks like john mclaughlin, greg howe, shawn lane, and guthrie govan whose lines easily rival any key players'. i personally like the fusion style of shredding best, but paul gilbert always has a place in my heart
also, 16th notes at 150 bpm really isn't that hard. i would hardly call myself anything approaching a shredder but doing scale runs at that speed is simple, so i would think that 2 handed keyboard spamming should be able to exceed 600 apm pretty easily for any longtime starcraft player.
anyways the point i was trying to make is that the simple mechanical motion of your fingers being able to spam over 800 apm isn't impossible at all when you look at some pretty average finger speed from some guitar players
On November 07 2009 10:08 Phrujbaz wrote: Calculator lady? I've seen plenty of people that could give you the answer much faster than she ever could - only they wouldn't use a calculator. Does that count?
I doubt this.
Naw it's true, there are people who use some other mental method to calculate huge lists of numbers really fast, they use a completely different method than the normal way to calculate though...
sorry about the music stuff OP, I just don't like the correlation between "apm" and playing a piece of music, it's really a pretty bad way to think about it. That example of the accordianist playing "Flight of the Bumblebee" is pretty cool though.
that's pretty impressive stuff sadly i have reached the limit of my calculator abilities and it's not limited by me.. but by the calculator. there's this really dumbass policy in university of waterloo that you're only allowed to use one of 2 calculators. one is of no use to me and the other registers the clicks too slowly. all too often (this is very noticeable with doubletaps like 11 or 22) the second tap won't register. it REALLY pisses me off. i know it's not me making a mistake because on my old crappy casio calculator, that never ever *ever* happens. plus i can do it such that you distinctly hear two taps but only one number appears. it's really pathetic whoever engineered this garbage calculator. imagine if you had to slow down your double clicks on the mouse....
so yeah, fuck you waterloo and approve some non-shitty calculators. thanks.
Lots of cool stuff here, but that abacus thing. What is she doing that is impressive? Because everything else I can see is impressive even if I have no clue about what they are doing, but in that video it just looks like she pushes some buttons at a rather slow speed...
Forgive my ignorance, but I have no clue what she is doing or why that is suppose to be impressive. Someone please enlighten me!
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