EPTFailure in Schools - Page 4
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
All the tests and quizzes and regular homework is all a percentage of your total grade, and all of them are weighted accordingly. Only complaints about my school's system are the grade intervals are not equal, As Bs Cs Ds span more percentage than A- or A+ or C-, etc. | ||
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DarkOptik
452 Posts
On November 04 2009 10:15 Sadistx wrote: This is a self-solving problem - if the assignment is minor and unimportant, like a single homework, then the worst thing that can happen is it drops your total grade by 1-2%, as homework is usually no more than 20% of the grade by weight. If the assignment is a major one (like one of 3 or 4) - you better make sure you hand it in, or else you deserve to get whatever the drop is. You can implement a policy of dropping 1-2 lowest grades from homework assignments (including 0s) if you so wish, but in my experience it makes little difference in the end, not enough to affect the letter grade most of the time, again due to little weight of the homework. I'm surprised more people didn't pick up on this. In my entire high school career, I don't think I've ever seen such a thing as micronesia pointed out: that is, one lost homework grade causing someone to fail a class or completely screwing up their grade. Since when was a single homework assignment so important to a person's grade? My AP Biology class had close to 1100 points, with each assignment worth around 10 points, each test about 100, final being 200. My AP Calc AB/BC class had something like 500 points, but each homework assignment was worth 2 points. APUSH, 10-15 point homework assignments, cumulative total of around 800 points. And it goes on. I completely fail to see the connection between missing one homework assignment and failing a class. Moreover, if that homework assignment really is that important, then, like Sadistx said, you better hang it in. I would say the vast majority of teachers give you some leeway in that regard, either by notifying you way ahead of time that this one "homework" (I don't even think you can call it that if it's worth so much of your grade) was enough to drop your grade 2 letters. Moreover, most teachers allow you to turn it in with full credit as long as you have a legitimate excuse, and most also allow the grade decay per day late. I seriously do not see this as a huge issue in the education system; that a single homework assignment screws someone over to the degree of pass/fail. | ||
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rei
United States3593 Posts
Quiz and tests are tools to check for student understanding, i do a quiz after each new concept, (every other day) not just to see my students' understanding, but also assess on my own presentation of the new concept. if there are many students not getting them, then it is my fault as the teacher, but if only a few students who are failing on a particular quiz or test, then they are the one who needs extra help. And of course there are those who fails all the quiz and does not give a fuck about them, and blame it on the teacher  And all the teacher had to do is point the finger on the rest of the class who understood the new concepts, and it would be very apparent on who is to blame. I had been using this system of assessment for the past year, working pretty good so far. oh and if a student's final is scored higher than the average score of all the quiz and mid terms, then that would be his final grade, otherwise everything is average out at the end. I have not seen anyone who failed everything but Ace the final to pass the class yet. | ||
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Hypnosis
United States2061 Posts
There needs to be a harsh grading scale in both high school AND college for two reasons: 1) If you cannot keep up with a tough grading scale in high school you will either do badly and decide to give up or you will rise above the toughness and really be prepared for college. Either way it helps the people who really strive and it weeds out the people destined to fail. Education should be provided to everyone but it is important that only the people who want it get the most resources (college education) to make use of. 2) What's the use of giving kids a handicap. Who do you want running businesses and designing your cars/bridges/stuff or keep tracking track of your bank accounts or medical records; a retard that couldn't pass most of his classes because he was lazy or the motivated girl that rose above the tough grading scale in high school and did really well in college? Life is a competition and it's survival of the fittest in everything humans do... I see where you are coming from micronesia.. I am sure you feel bad when half your physics students fail the course because they are lazy but that's why they have a curve in college: its really fucking hard! | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
On November 06 2009 05:34 Hypnosis wrote: The thing about school is that it is a competition. You are competing against all the other students and they have the EXACT same grading scale as you do. Right, as long as everyone faces the same rules, which are not arbitrarily skewed somehow, I see no problem. They could be more or less harsh, but they apply to everyone. | ||
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