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[Spoiler]Flash's TvT winstreak

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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5981 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 09:10:26
October 21 2009 09:07 GMT
#1
Hey TL,

Recently Flash mentioned in an interview:
"I will prepare thinking I already have a lead, but since Firebathero is really strong in TvT I will not let my guard down and win my 12th TvT in a row."
Source: + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104084


Now when I check Flash's TvT record, + Show Spoiler +
Flash v T

Flash's best latest streak in the '2008-2009 Shinhan Bank Proleague' would be 8 wins. Now with 2009-2010 Shinhan started, vs Really he managed to get a 9th win in a row. So wouldn't that make
a win vs FBH a 10th?

Only if I count the Avalon MSL as well he'd be on a 12 win streak. But then what about the STX Master 2009, 09 Ultimate PL (and GOM Classic Season 3) I know this last one isn't counted. But still...

In an earlier interview after an oustanding TvT vs Really,+ Show Spoiler +
[link]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFr1Vio-NK4[/link]
Flash said he wants to set a TvT record no one else could break (15-20 wins)
+ Show Spoiler +

- You set a new record of 11 TvT win streak
▲ I would have been more confident if I had been playing, but since I haven't played for a while, I was worried. I'm happy I was able to set a new record, and I want to set a record that nobody can break in the future. If I achieve 15-20 streak, I don't think anyone else will be able to break it. TvT is hard to predict, but I think I can do it.

Flash also said + Show Spoiler +
(I can't find the interview, sorry)
he wants to bring his TvZ record up in the 70+% again. Now I wonder, if not all leagues are taken in account in his record. What would be his current vZ win/loss rate?

Of course I have no doubt Flash can achieve the goals he set!
If I violated any rules, please let me know.




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FBH #1!
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
October 21 2009 09:12 GMT
#2
12 Televised Non-Event Win Streak

They didn't count any Event games + Gom Season 3

So basically, exclude the Gom/STX Master/Ultimate PL 09 games
dats racist
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
October 21 2009 09:14 GMT
#3
Flash is only counting Kespa sanctioned games in his winstreak, ie special events + GOM dont count.

TLPD counts GOM games which is the only difference between the kespa sanctioned record, the GOM games inflate Flash's TvZ record as he won a lot more than he lost, so its going to be even more difficult to break the 70% point.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5981 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 09:17:21
October 21 2009 09:16 GMT
#4
Thanks guys.
So is there any way to show records of just 'Televised Non-Event' matches?
FBH #1!
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
October 21 2009 09:17 GMT
#5
On October 21 2009 18:16 s.Q.uelched wrote:
Thanks MrHoon.
So is there any way to show records of just 'Televised Non-Event' matches?

Actually I've suggested this before

Bob said there are plans for it

But don't quote me!
dats racist
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5981 Posts
October 21 2009 09:21 GMT
#6
Thanks again, I'm sure people woud enjoy such a feature! I know I would.
FBH #1!
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
October 21 2009 09:42 GMT
#7
Someone correct me: Flash tied iloveOov's 27 game win streak in 2008, correct?

And Best tied the single-match up win streak at like 17 or something, right? PvP? There were a bunch of streaks broken in 2007-2008 and I can't keep track of them.
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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
October 21 2009 09:51 GMT
#8
On October 21 2009 18:42 thunk wrote:
Someone correct me: Flash tied iloveOov's 27 game win streak in 2008, correct?


No, Flash went like 24-3 at one point or something? But to win 27 games in a row is just completely unthinkable nowadays. It's pretty much the "Cy Young's 511 wins" of SC.

Also oov's streak was TvZ.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
October 21 2009 10:02 GMT
#9
On October 21 2009 18:14 samachking wrote:
Flash is only counting Kespa sanctioned games in his winstreak, ie special events + GOM dont count.

TLPD counts GOM games which is the only difference between the kespa sanctioned record, the GOM games inflate Flash's TvZ record as he won a lot more than he lost, so its going to be even more difficult to break the 70% point.

The streaks only count in kespa sanctioned games
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
October 21 2009 14:39 GMT
#10
On October 21 2009 18:51 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2009 18:42 thunk wrote:
Someone correct me: Flash tied iloveOov's 27 game win streak in 2008, correct?


No, Flash went like 24-3 at one point or something? But to win 27 games in a row is just completely unthinkable nowadays. It's pretty much the "Cy Young's 511 wins" of SC.

Also oov's streak was TvZ.


Also I think the overall win streak record is 16. 27-0 in anything would be pretty ridiculous nowadays I agree, although Flash was also rolling over people like crazy during that time.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
October 21 2009 14:52 GMT
#11
Oov had 13 game winstreak all mus which is tied only by JD
Gorush has the highest winstreak which is 16 wins

Oovs TvZ opened with a 27-0 winstreak which is the best single mu winstreak
Flashs best winstreak is 12 wins.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 21 2009 14:56 GMT
#12
On October 21 2009 18:42 thunk wrote:
Someone correct me: Flash tied iloveOov's 27 game win streak in 2008, correct?

And Best tied the single-match up win streak at like 17 or something, right? PvP? There were a bunch of streaks broken in 2007-2008 and I can't keep track of them.

I think it was the proleague win streak that Flash tied with Oov, which was 17 or 18 games or something? Anytime has also tied with Oov before Flash.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17082 Posts
October 21 2009 16:23 GMT
#13
On October 21 2009 23:52 samachking wrote:
Oov had 13 game winstreak all mus which is tied only by JD
Gorush has the highest winstreak which is 16 wins

Oovs TvZ opened with a 27-0 winstreak which is the best single mu winstreak
Flashs best winstreak is 12 wins.


I'm fairly certain EffOrt also tied at 16 straight wins, but don't quote me. T_T
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KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
October 21 2009 16:52 GMT
#14
On October 22 2009 01:23 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2009 23:52 samachking wrote:
Oov had 13 game winstreak all mus which is tied only by JD
Gorush has the highest winstreak which is 16 wins

Oovs TvZ opened with a 27-0 winstreak which is the best single mu winstreak
Flashs best winstreak is 12 wins.


I'm fairly certain EffOrt also tied at 16 straight wins, but don't quote me. T_T

If I read the TLPD correctly efforts biggest streak is 10, form a combination of pro league and qualifiers.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 17:03:45
October 21 2009 17:03 GMT
#15
On October 21 2009 23:56 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2009 18:42 thunk wrote:
Someone correct me: Flash tied iloveOov's 27 game win streak in 2008, correct?

And Best tied the single-match up win streak at like 17 or something, right? PvP? There were a bunch of streaks broken in 2007-2008 and I can't keep track of them.

I think it was the proleague win streak that Flash tied with Oov, which was 17 or 18 games or something? Anytime has also tied with Oov before Flash.

This is true, flash, oov, anytime were the only ones to achieve this

However, this was only the case for the old Proleague Format when 2v2s still existed

and it wasn't consecutive wins iirc, it was how many wins in a single round or something
can't remember
dats racist
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
October 21 2009 17:29 GMT
#16
i believe flash said that he wanted his tvP to get back over 70%, not his tvz.

but he also said he was improving his tvz a lot
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-21 17:34:08
October 21 2009 17:30 GMT
#17
On October 22 2009 01:23 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2009 23:52 samachking wrote:
Oov had 13 game winstreak all mus which is tied only by JD
Gorush has the highest winstreak which is 16 wins

Oovs TvZ opened with a 27-0 winstreak which is the best single mu winstreak
Flashs best winstreak is 12 wins.


I'm fairly certain EffOrt also tied at 16 straight wins, but don't quote me. T_T


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?type=players&id=581&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=any&from_year=2009&from_month=5&from_day=16&to_year=2009&to_month=6&to_day=15&action=Update

My bad :/ I forgot about effort since it was recent, but it was 15 wins and not 16, if you disclude the GOM series you get a 15 winstreak which is really impressive, but Gorush still has the record

Here is Gorush's streak:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?type=players&id=8&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=any&from_year=2004&from_month=10&from_day=24&to_year=2004&to_month=12&to_day=30&action=Update
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
October 21 2009 17:33 GMT
#18
On October 22 2009 02:30 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2009 01:23 Empyrean wrote:
On October 21 2009 23:52 samachking wrote:
Oov had 13 game winstreak all mus which is tied only by JD
Gorush has the highest winstreak which is 16 wins

Oovs TvZ opened with a 27-0 winstreak which is the best single mu winstreak
Flashs best winstreak is 12 wins.


I'm fairly certain EffOrt also tied at 16 straight wins, but don't quote me. T_T


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?type=players&id=581&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=any&from_year=2009&from_month=5&from_day=16&to_year=2009&to_month=6&to_day=15&action=Update

My bad :/ I forgot about effort since it was recent, but it was 15 wins and not 16, if you disclude the GOM series you get a 15 winstreak which is really impressive, but Gorush still has the record

Ah lol the loss was a gom game ~~
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
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