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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
October 19 2009 14:25 GMT
#21
I'm surprised Hot_bid, that you havent pulled out your trademark quote, can't get myself to remember it exactly.
"The protoss user must realise that there is no matchup." Along those lines.
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Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
October 19 2009 14:31 GMT
#22
Protoss needs a new revolution, not easy maps. DAs, DTs, shield upgrades, scouts. Nobody is willing to try anything new, while terrans managed to implement valks, all kinds of mech and biomech and even battlecruisers, zergs drastically improved average muta micro, tactics and late game with crazy stuff like queens sometimes. It's protoss' turn now.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-19 17:03:57
October 19 2009 17:03 GMT
#23
the whole DA talk is shit. Mid game HTs and DA are substitutes - you cant mass production both from 2 bases. Even if you like skip sair tech it takes time to research both storm and maelstrom. Someone said spells = strong , but when you are in a position to Maelstrom-or-Die a stack of mutas to safe your 3 HTs with mana in order to win, it will just become a matter of crazy ass micro to cast the spells correctly. Protoss is using the right weapons, but on these maps every pro level pvz is down to fast zealots pre-lurker timing attack on the zerg's third. If it works toss is ok, otherwise gg
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Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
October 19 2009 17:03 GMT
#24
On October 19 2009 23:31 Magic84 wrote:
Protoss needs a new revolution, not easy maps. DAs, DTs, shield upgrades, scouts. Nobody is willing to try anything new, while terrans managed to implement valks, all kinds of mech and biomech and even battlecruisers, zergs drastically improved average muta micro, tactics and late game with crazy stuff like queens sometimes. It's protoss' turn now.

Go back to abusing carriers vs T and reavers vs Z ?
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
October 19 2009 17:11 GMT
#25
i'm actually trying to formulate some sort of scout build. though unfortunately, other races need to understand that protoss has very little room to try out new things. wraiths are far superior to scouts. and scouts get raped alive by hydras..

if only they costed like 75 less minerals, then they would be feasible.
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BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-19 17:29:29
October 19 2009 17:26 GMT
#26
Dark Archons would be a very nice mix-in...

I ought to fool around with them a bit more.

Wait, what about arbs? Recalling a large portion of your army into a zerg main is always deadly.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
October 19 2009 17:34 GMT
#27
On October 20 2009 02:11 da_head wrote:
i'm actually trying to formulate some sort of scout build. though unfortunately, other races need to understand that protoss has very little room to try out new things. wraiths are far superior to scouts. and scouts get raped alive by hydras..

if only they costed like 75 less minerals, then they would be feasible.


Scouts can work very well if you stack them. I think that G5 uses scouts really well. They're really fast once they're upgraded.
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
October 19 2009 17:35 GMT
#28
same thing for bad players complaining about getting raped by koreans at like d level. your 30-100 record certainly could not be hinting at the true problem here.
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
October 19 2009 19:27 GMT
#29
On October 19 2009 22:01 nttea wrote:
you all seem to be arguing that because you could just play better to win, that the race = imba discussion is useless.

Until you get to pro level of play, that's exactly what I think.

This is why SC is such a great game, imo. It's so well balanced that you only lose games because your opponent was better than you. You can only improve yourself to win, not blame it on game balance.
Hello
Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
October 19 2009 19:44 GMT
#30
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=103908

Why did you make another blog about basically the same thing?
meow
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
October 19 2009 19:49 GMT
#31
Are you fucking serious. Can you give up and leave please?
Peace~
cwjalex
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States49 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-19 21:43:53
October 19 2009 21:34 GMT
#32
wow fanatacist and probe, u guys are definitely in love...following me to post back to back...it's really adorable. If you don't have anything serious to say then gtfo. And probe, it's not basically the same at all and if you think so you have reading comprehension problems..and there are plenty of people that agree with this thread.
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