• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:56
CEST 06:56
KST 13:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-69SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)14Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE18
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Serral wins HomeStory Cup 29 StarCraft 2 at SC4ALL II Invite #4/8 - Percival Protoss AoE skill expression 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25) SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Are you ready for ASL 22? NEW HYPE VIDEO [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 ASL22 General Discussion Recent recommended BW games
Tourneys
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament - Season 3 SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo 2 thread General RTS Discussion Thread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Iain M Banks Says He Has Cancer And Months To Live European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Clem Fan Club INnoVation Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
NBA General Discussion Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6555 users

Classical Music

Blogs > OhNoes
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
OhNoes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States58 Posts
October 02 2009 07:56 GMT
#1
At the behest of a friend, I picked up some Claude Debussy. It is spectacular. The only problem is, most of the people I know don't listen to classical music. As such, other than the super famous composers, I don't really know where to look for really good classical music.

If anybody knows of any composers that have a large body of music, great. Otherwise, one or two tracks is also appreciated.

For reference, Clair de Lune is easily my favorite song of Debussy's. So any classical music, of any movement, would be great.

*****
zgl
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1055 Posts
October 02 2009 07:59 GMT
#2
On October 02 2009 16:56 OhNoes wrote:
If anybody knows of any composers that have a large body of music, great. Otherwise, one or two tracks is also appreciated.


Wagner is The Word. Check out the Der Ring des Nibelungen.

Also, Beethoven's Middle and Late String Quartets.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 02 2009 08:17 GMT
#3
Shostakovich is a particular favorite of mine, especially his eighth quartet, fifth symphony, and cello sonata. Mahler is awesome too, look up Mahler Adagietto on youtube. Suite for Strings by Foote is very nice, but it might be hard to find a recording for that. Langsamer Satz by Webern is just awesome. I really like Stravinsky and Penderecki, but those composers are modern and doesn't appeal to everyone. Mendelssohn is good too, I especially like listening and playing his Octet.

I like listening to a lot of concertos, my favorites being Tchaikovsky's Violin Concerto, Mendelssohn Violin Concerto, Elgar Violin Concerto, Bach Double Violin Concerto, Sibelius Violin Concerto, Vieuxtemps Violin Concerto, Brahms Double Concerto, J.C. Bach Viola Concerto, Shostakovich Cello Concerto, Saint Saens Cello Concerto, Dvorak Cello Concerto, Lalo Cello Concerto, Elgar Cello Concerto, Schumann Cello Concerto.

Also Dance of the Elves by Popper played by Rostropovich is just spectacular, you should at least watch that.

Those are off the top of my head, trying to avoid the obvious ones I think. I can think of some more later I guess
Writerptrk
doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-02 08:27:30
October 02 2009 08:23 GMT
#4
Debussy isn't Classical, just fyi.

I guess people have gotten too used grouping all of Baroque/classical/romantic/contemporary orchestral into classical(?)

Franz Liszt has some pretty interesting compositions. He arranged a few symphonies for solo piano. He was the first piano virtuoso.

+1 for Der Ring des Nibelungen.

Helene Grimaud has some interesting recordings (Credo was interessssttinnngg)

Linkage:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Hexameron
http://www.kdfc.com/ (Radio station in CA I listen to. :< )

A piece I randomly remembered that I enjoy immensely: Mendelssohn's "Die Hebrides." Amazing.
Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-02 08:35:18
October 02 2009 08:33 GMT
#5
On October 02 2009 17:23 Thesecretaznman wrote:
Debussy isn't Classical, just fyi.

I guess people have gotten too used grouping all of Baroque/classical/romantic/contemporary orchestral into classical(?)

Franz Liszt has some pretty interesting compositions. He arranged a few symphonies for solo piano. He was the first piano virtuoso.

+1 for Der Ring des Nibelungen.

Helene Grimaud has some interesting recordings (Credo was interessssttinnngg)

Linkage:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Hexameron
http://www.kdfc.com/ (Radio station in CA I listen to. :< )



Dude, Debussy is classical music. You're the one getting confused here, as the word classical has two meanings. Baroque/classical/etc are the names for the different periods of music that fall under the blanket category of Classical Music.

@op, I'd recommend some Chopin. I think you'd like his Nocturnes. Chopin's ballades are really good too.

Also, Rachmaninoff is another composer you might wanna take a look at.
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
October 02 2009 08:44 GMT
#6
take a gander at these, ive been listening to them more or less non stop for the last few days

+ Show Spoiler +







A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
Refrige
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States179 Posts
October 02 2009 08:52 GMT
#7







aghhh there's just too much good classical..
OhNoes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States58 Posts
October 02 2009 08:57 GMT
#8
Thanks for the recommendations. This will keep me in music for the time being, but more recommendations are always welcome. My only real exposure to a lot of this music was from Rolf... not that he's that bad >.>

@thesecretaznman, I do realize he's not classical, the interbutts said he was Impressionist, but I just did the broad baroque/classical category, hence the movement comment.

Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2757 Posts
October 02 2009 09:03 GMT
#9
Satie is the one you're really looking for.
JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-02 09:19:16
October 02 2009 09:17 GMT
#10
If you like complex harmonies perhaps Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms might suit your tastes

For "simpler" music maybe Haydn, Vivaldi

For more passionate music the late romantic/patriotic periods might be interesting e.g. Tchaik, Rachmaninov, Shost (Russian) (dissonant tho, he was abit crazy imho), Dvorak/Smetana (Czech)

I like Sibelius (Finnish, think tundras and winter), Schumann (German)

There are a bunch of modern pieces with unconventional directions like symphony for 100 metronomes and 4:33 (the famous silent piece).

Vocal music im not too sure. Operas <- Puccini, other Italian composers.

Btw Debussy has a string quartet that I'm partial too, as well as the Arabesque (solo piano). Clair de Lune is great too as it appeals casual listeners as well (compared to Mahler,Stravinsky and such)
The calm before the storm / "loli is not a crime, but meganekko is the way to go!"
Spinfusor
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia410 Posts
October 02 2009 09:47 GMT
#11
http://www.classical.net/music/rep/lists/med.php

As good a list as I've ever seen.

You might as well take a look at some other Debussy starting with the the Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune, La Mer, and first book of Preludes. I can upload/link you to good recordings if you're interested.
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
October 02 2009 10:01 GMT
#12
If you liked Clair de Lune, try the rest of Suite Bergamasque by Debussy. I've recently learned how to play Clair de Lune and now I'm working on the Prelude.

Also, if you're into more Romantic-era stuff, try some Liszt. I'm afraid my knowledge is quite limited since most of Liszt's work is for much much more advanced pianists than I am, but I know that most of what I've listened to of his was really awesome.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
searcher
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
277 Posts
October 02 2009 10:11 GMT
#13
I think a lot of the above posters are recommending whatever they happen to like at the moment and instead something a beginner is more likely to appreciate.

Unless you are as talented as Mozart it is unlikely that Wagner, Beethoven's late string quartets, Satie, and anything written in the 20th century is worth getting into when you start, despite the fact that a lot of it is brilliant.

If you want to take classical seriously realize that in addition to the melodic component to music, which is by and large what appeals to people who listen to contemporary music, there is depth and substance which is far more essential to the experience. It is easy to enjoy Debussy from the beginning because there is that melodic component, but it is hard to take Debussy seriously as a beginner because the real depth and substance to his music is not something that can be grasped without refernce to earlier works.

So go for something easier. You can easily jeopardize your future enjoyment of classical by only sticking to showpieces and the like however, which is virtually everything that Refrige has recommended. They are mostly exciting for their melody and virtuosity and not much else.

Personally I think what will make sense for you are pieces that have both the melodic component to anchor your interest, but a depth to them that additional listening can build upon. In that vein you have stuff like Bach's Double Violin Concerto, Tchaikovsky's Violin Concerto, the Mozart symphonies (40,41,25,29,31,35,36,38 are my favourites), Beethoven's No.5 (you will like the first movement easily, but soon learn that everything else, especially the second movement, are ingenious). From there you can branch into most of Tchaikovsky's and Mozart's works, begin a journey into Bach perhaps (the longest journey you will ever make in music), and try out the other Beethoven symphonies and piano sonatas.

I wouldn't recommend starting with opera because it gives you the bad habit of only listening to the arias and "good bits" and not finding the more valuable movements.

I could write a whole lot more about how to enjoy classical having studied it and helped friends get into it but this post has already gone on too long. As a final rule of thumb, you can only really enjoy every facet of a piece if you have memorized it. Remember this before you discard the third movement of Beethoven's 8th as "boring" or something. Melodies are so much longer in classical music that you have to listen to them many more times to make sense of them. Imagine if you read a poem where each sentence was many pages long - without reading it several times and memorizing it to the point you can have the whole thing in your head at once, you won't be able to understand it.
genryou
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia390 Posts
October 02 2009 10:13 GMT
#14
I recommend:

- Beethoven: Symphony No. 7, Opus 92 (Opening)
-Rachmaninoff: Piano Concerto No. 3 Op. 30, 1st movement
-Gershwin: Rhapsody in Blue (arranged by Hattori Takayuki)

or

just get it here:

Nodame Cantabile Special
Nodame Cantabile BEST 100
I, Challenge Everything
Spinfusor
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia410 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-02 10:26:50
October 02 2009 10:26 GMT
#15
Hmm advice that reminds me of Aaron Copland's book (particularly that part about memorizing pieces).

I really wouldn't start with Mozart though. I found his works harder than late Beethoven and even Ligeti for that matter. I'd also consider taking the Mendelssohn concerto over the Tchaikovsky since it's a better balanced work even if it doesn't lead in to other repetoire quite as well.

I disagree about the Debussy part too. I don't think harmony is as abstract as, say, form. It's like saying you shouldn't listen to Bach until you gone over Josquin.

EDIT: re searcher
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
October 02 2009 10:29 GMT
#16
The human voice:

Broodwar AI :) http://sscaitournament.com http://www.starcraftai.com/wiki/Main_Page
searcher
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
277 Posts
October 02 2009 10:35 GMT
#17
I agree harmony is not an abstract part of the experience, but it is a lot more insightful when you listen to Debussy's harmony with a foundation in the baroque and classical perspectives on harmony. The novelty of it is almost startling. In a sense it is like learning the history of the Starcraft metagame from the beginning, when the competitive scene had just begun. Then you come to 2007 and the Bisu build is so refreshing and new it seems all the more amazing, whereas if you had studied the metagame through Liquipedia you would have less appreciation for its ingenuity and perhaps less of an idea of why it was developed and how it compares to what Protoss had been doing against Zerg until then.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
October 02 2009 11:05 GMT
#18
bach
bach
bach

oh my god the fugues and the BWVs and counter points and jIZZ JIZZ!!! so good.
pick it up
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
October 02 2009 11:10 GMT
#19
some yummy stuff in this thread.

im a big fan of Barber's adagio for strings.

Also some corelli in your life never hurt anything.

Also mozart. symph 29... lots of his are amazing though.


kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
October 02 2009 11:16 GMT
#20
Liszt, Chopin, Rachmaninov, Grieg, Hadyn, Enrique Granados, Godowsky, Schumann, Tchaikovsky, Ravel, Mendelssohn

Edward Elgar, Gershwin
대지따라 돌린게 시간이다.. 흘러가고 돌아오지도 않고..
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Ladder Legends
20:00
Saturday Open #1
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft635
RuFF_SC2 209
StarCraft: Brood War
Icarus 12
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm216
Counter-Strike
summit1g9115
minikerr36
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King199
Other Games
JimRising 630
ViBE207
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick786
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH262
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki15
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2995
• lizZardDota265
League of Legends
• Lourlo940
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
4h 4m
OSC
8h 4m
OSC
19h 4m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 6h
The Patches Monday
1d 11h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
RSL Revival: Season 6
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.