I hate this. Every game I have played today has been an all in sort of play. Around 15 games I have played and i wanna say 13 have been all ins. Why do people do this on iCCup? this shit has me so pissed off that I cant take it anymore. Str8 up games im decent. When a game gets to endgame I do well. I believe not all in I can reach C+/B-/B but all ins at C- has me stuck at D+/C- level and Im sooo pissed off and I cant take it anymore. UGHHHHHHHHHH can there be a not all in section so that skill is shown by iccup level, not how well some1 does an all in. UGHHHHH i fuckin hate this. VENTING ARGHHHHHHHH

TryThis

Canada1522 Posts

September 22 2009 16:11 GMT

i personally love a good ol'2 hatch hydra rush

DeathByMonkeys

United States742 Posts

September 22 2009 16:11 GMT

Your rank varies from D+ to B...?

koreasilver

9109 Posts

September 22 2009 16:12 GMT

bunker rushes make me cry too, but what can you do.

Zoler

Sweden6339 Posts

September 22 2009 16:16 GMT

On September 23 2009 01:12 koreasilver wrote:
bunker rushes make me cry too, but what can you do.

pool first gg

underscore

252 Posts

September 22 2009 16:19 GMT

Just because a lot of top foreigners cry about all-ins/cheese doesn't mean you should do the same.
I watched a livestream a week ago where the streamer got cheesed hard 4 times by the same player and lost 3-1. Did he complain? No, to him it were 4 games no different than 4 macro games.
It was the most beautiful thing I've witnessed.
Why can't you be like that?

739

Bearded Elder29904 Posts

September 22 2009 16:20 GMT

On September 23 2009 01:12 koreasilver wrote:
bunker rushes make me cry too, but what can you do.

Scout? Pool first, be smart.

On September 23 2009 01:11 TryThis wrote:
i personally love a good ol'2 hatch hydra rush

Word my friend, word.

Purind

Canada3562 Posts

September 22 2009 16:21 GMT

Everyone complains about cheese on ICCUP, but I haven't noticed that many (I don't consider DT drops all-ins, as much as I hate them). Sure I run into the in-base proxies, enough that when I scout and see a gateway inside their base, I feel relieved, but it's not like the majority of the players I play cheese

As for why people do them: Have you considered that they may be B - A level players that don't wanna waste 15 minutes per game in the D ranks, so instead they choose strats that'll take a lot less time? Not all B players want to spend days playing D rank players

3clipse

Canada2555 Posts

September 22 2009 16:25 GMT

Get better at scouting and defending vs these things. It's your problem, not theirs.

Chill

Calgary25996 Posts

September 22 2009 16:26 GMT

#10

Play the game as it is, not as you imagine it to be.

You kids must be doing fucking ridiculous strategies or something, because I never get allined. Like 1% of my games are allin. Play safe and scout well.

Chill

Calgary25996 Posts

September 22 2009 16:27 GMT

#11

Also, if you are stuck at C- there is no way you can ever reach B. Seriously. SERIOUSLY.

EvilTeletubby

Baltimore, USA22259 Posts

September 22 2009 16:31 GMT

#12

On September 23 2009 01:06 Auhsoj wrote:
I believe not all in I can reach C+/B-/B but all ins at C- has me stuck at D+/C- level

lol.

Get over yourself.

You're basically saying, 'if the game goes the way I want, I win!'

Hot_Bid

Braavos36390 Posts

September 22 2009 16:31 GMT

#13

there's a reason you can't stop allins at a low rank level (you're not good enough)

edit: i challenge you to post a replay pack, i doubt you will though

edit2: the very fact that you said "i'm C+/B-/B" shows how ridiculous a claim this is, do you know how great a variation it is between those three grades? the skill jump is insane. you can't just throw out "oh i'm one of these three ranks" its like someone asking you how old you are and you replying "i'm 20/30/40"

Chill

Calgary25996 Posts

September 22 2009 16:34 GMT

#14

If the deal would just give me the cards I want, I'd be super rich. As of now I can barely play rent because of this bullshit.

nicoaldo

Argentina939 Posts

September 22 2009 16:34 GMT

#15

last 4 posts win.

EvilTeletubby

Baltimore, USA22259 Posts

September 22 2009 16:35 GMT

#16

Rofl Chill, where is that from?

Chill

Calgary25996 Posts

September 22 2009 16:49 GMT

#17

I just intepretted his words. Not really a quote from anywhere

KwarK

United States43753 Posts

September 22 2009 16:52 GMT

#18

Allins are generally not blind. They'll scout you out and go "he's weak to X, I'm gonna do X" and then go allin with that. Which is sensible because doing it halfassed would be utterly pointless when they know what they're doing. Nobody in their right mind is going to go "I could kill him with a timing attack now if I make units but if I kill him with a timing attack now I'll still only be on 2 bases when he types gg, I better make a few less units and take a 3rd, just to be safe". That's really, really counter intuitive. These players are better than you and they're killing you because you're a D+ player and not very good at Starcraft.

StarN

United States2587 Posts

September 22 2009 16:56 GMT

#19

Yeah, I never get all-ined anymore (mostly in PvZ) because I keep my scouting probe alive long enough. No zerg in their right mind All-Ins against a protoss who knows how to scout well.