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Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
September 06 2009 08:43 GMT
#1
can someone explain to me why i was supposed to like it?

not sure i was sold on the plotline at any point. stylistically it was neat, but can't find anything but indifference at best.

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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-06 08:49:49
September 06 2009 08:46 GMT
#2


^^^^ that was enough for me.
I mean where do you even begin to choreograph something like that
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Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
September 06 2009 08:48 GMT
#3
yeah fight was neat

other than that?
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
September 06 2009 08:49 GMT
#4
it sucks
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Last.Midnight
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia902 Posts
September 06 2009 08:59 GMT
#5
it's fucking amazing wtf. that moment when he opens up the book at the end and the pages start to turn and the "twist" starts to seep in is incredible. it's stylish and it's creative. the question is how can you watch it and have to ask what there is to like about it? :O
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
September 06 2009 09:11 GMT
#6
it didn't feel like a twist at all really

i didn't get the "oh my god" feeling i got when watching memento for example. instead, as the majority of the movie felt disconnected and meandering, i arrived to the "twist" and felt more of a "oh... i guess that's what i've been watching this whole time."
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
September 06 2009 09:18 GMT
#7
I was pretty unimpressed after all the hype myself. I still stand by Our Town/Ori Dongnae as my favorite Korean movie.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
September 06 2009 10:09 GMT
#8
On September 06 2009 18:11 Day[9] wrote:
it didn't feel like a twist at all really

i didn't get the "oh my god" feeling i got when watching memento for example. instead, as the majority of the movie felt disconnected and meandering, i arrived to the "twist" and felt more of a "oh... i guess that's what i've been watching this whole time."


I'm not sure I remember much of the plot, since I did watch this like 3-4 years ago....

But, even though I was disappointed by the film for the same reasons, I still ended up liking it. O_O I found the aesthetic charming.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-06 10:34:16
September 06 2009 10:32 GMT
#9
To me it wasn't really a twist at all, I pretty much expected it to be that. Just based on how awkward the characters' interaction and shit was before, it was totally obvious something was up.

I've watched most of the recommended korean/jap films and Most of them suck tbh. The only one I liked was Ip Man.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
enthusiast
Profile Joined May 2008
United States90 Posts
September 06 2009 10:40 GMT
#10
I loved it the first time I saw it, but I've lost interest when I've tried watching it again.

But the octopus scene is fucking own. Also the music is awesome.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
September 06 2009 10:48 GMT
#11
dunno i liked it a lot

and yeah charlie Ip man is the fucking shit

and plz dont try to compare movies to memento....thats not fair
why so 진지해?
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-06 10:50:04
September 06 2009 10:49 GMT
#12
Mainly that fight scene, the octopus scene, the music and the fact that you can hear someone playing BW at one point.

Ip Man was awesome and I also recommend the good, the bad and the weird.
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EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
September 06 2009 11:29 GMT
#13
it's definitely not for everyone. I absolutely loved it but I am surprised by how many people like it just because it isn't your standard popular film. I guess it's the whole foreignness to it.
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
September 06 2009 11:31 GMT
#14
I liked it, did feel that it went a bit overboard at the end, but was pretty neat the whole way through.

IMO Sympathy for Lady Vengeance is much better,
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
September 06 2009 12:18 GMT
#15
the plot was sosososo good that I just can't not like this movie. some stupid stuff tho like that fight someone else posted
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TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
September 06 2009 12:46 GMT
#16
I liked the film too, can't remember why but I was just interested to see was gonna happen I suppose

But maybe you'd prefer "Zinda" the Bollywood adaptation
nK)Duke
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany936 Posts
September 06 2009 13:09 GMT
#17
JSA>>>>>OLDBOY
Last.Midnight
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia902 Posts
September 06 2009 14:35 GMT
#18
Memento? The only redeeming part of that movie was that it was done backwards. If you played it in a chronologically normal order it's fucking average.
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
September 06 2009 14:54 GMT
#19
I LOVE this movie, I'm not sure why the majority in here doesn't.
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radar14
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1437 Posts
September 06 2009 15:00 GMT
#20
On September 06 2009 23:35 Last.Midnight wrote:
Memento? The only redeeming part of that movie was that it was done backwards. If you played it in a chronologically normal order it's fucking average.


I hate it when people say this. Why would you watch it "normal" ever? The backwards element is such an intrinsic part of the movie that I don't know why people try to judge the movie without it. It's like saying that Tarantino films are average without the dialogue.
impatience is a virtue
rgfdxm
Profile Joined December 2006
United States239 Posts
September 06 2009 15:34 GMT
#21
I liked Oldboy quite a bit but I agree with JSA >>>> Oldboy
ZeeTemplar
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States557 Posts
September 06 2009 15:45 GMT
#22
I just recently seen this as well and liked it, but this must be the most twisted movie I have ever seen haha. I wont spoil it for anyone, but this is a great movie. I thought the story line was pretty solid and the characters did a good job.

some parts are NSFW so be careful and enjoy
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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
September 06 2009 16:02 GMT
#23
Meh, it was ok. I didn't really like it that much because I completely expected the twist from the beginning. It really is over rated.
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skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
September 06 2009 16:03 GMT
#24
On September 06 2009 19:49 jello_biafra wrote:
Mainly that fight scene, the octopus scene, the music and the fact that you can hear someone playing BW at one point.

Ip Man was awesome and I also recommend the good, the bad and the weird.

what part of the movie is this? i must have completely missed this.
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-06 16:11:40
September 06 2009 16:07 GMT
#25
The first 30 minutes or so are great, but then the plot starts getting really convoluted. The motivation of Dae Su's tormentor is very lame and it takes 2 hours to get there.

The main problem I have with this movie is that at times it adheres to realism (besides the plot, which is fine), at others it is not. For example, in the hallway fight scene, he starts wrecking house but he gets swarmed, realistic... but then they let him up, not realistic... and stab a fucking knife into his back but he continues to be able to fight somehow... not realistic.

The best part of the movie is where he takes the cigarette from that street punk, and his interior dialogue goes, "can 10 years of training actually work in real life?" and then he beats all of them up, and the interior dialogue says, "apparently, it can." I mean that's fucking great stuff, and its a shame the movie didn't continue along that line.

Also, at the very beginning when Dae-Su is totally drunk and in detox, that's great stuff too.
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
ManBearPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Belgium207 Posts
September 06 2009 16:09 GMT
#26
If you take such things as plot, style (camera etc), music, creativity and acting into account, you simply cannot hold that ip man, as a movie, is better than or even close to old boy. Old boy is superior in all these aspects. Ip man is just another kungfu movie.
Crisis_
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States165 Posts
September 06 2009 16:56 GMT
#27
I love movies like this. I'm not sure how to classify them, though. Can anyone recommend a few good ones in the same "genre"?
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-06 17:53:42
September 06 2009 17:35 GMT
#28
On September 07 2009 01:56 Crisis_ wrote:
I love movies like this. I'm not sure how to classify them, though. Can anyone recommend a few good ones in the same "genre"?


really obvious but just in case you havent watched em: the other two movies of the vengeance trilogy

The director Chan Wook Park also just released a new movie:
http://uk.rottentomatoes.com/m/10011304-thirst/#

seems to be a bit different though as it's a vampire movie :p
cool idea though with the vampire being a priest, I'm definitely gonna watch this one.

Has a pretty badass trailer at that:


+ Show Spoiler +

CJ!!!!
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-06 18:56:00
September 06 2009 17:58 GMT
#29
just like to chime I liked Old Boy and hope we can all agree it had a great OST

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY48hhpo-gI
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CoOl]1st[
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States243 Posts
September 06 2009 21:29 GMT
#30
because its a satyr on how fucked up asians are.
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Spike
Profile Joined October 2003
United States1392 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-06 21:48:41
September 06 2009 21:47 GMT
#31
Didn't see much in Oldboy and even less in Ip Man.

Seriously, Ip Man is like a carbon copy of countless martial arts movies.
Man has been wronged, must take revenge; wasn't anything original or creative about it.
You could say that it was "done well", but really, there was no meat to the story and the action wasn't nearly good enough to overcome the lack of substance.
VarmVaffel
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway378 Posts
September 06 2009 22:44 GMT
#32
I saw this movie without ever having heard of it before, and I got a very positive reaction to it. I thought it was some kind of B-rated movie, but I was proven very otherwise. It had quite a few good fight scenes, but the main thing about it imo was the plot twist at the end. Never before have I seen such a sick and weird fucking twist in a movie, which left be both in disgust and a sense of awesomeness for the writer.

Conclude: Overall a good movie, but nothing spectacular. The plot was better than most movies though.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
September 06 2009 22:50 GMT
#33
On September 07 2009 06:29 CoOl]1st[ wrote:
because its a satyr on how fucked up asians are.

We're Greek?
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
September 06 2009 23:22 GMT
#34
I didn't like Oldboy much either. I might not have been as disappointed as you but it was certainly not a great movie. Watch 'Seom' instead if you want a good korean movie!
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TabyLing
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia69 Posts
September 07 2009 01:48 GMT
#35
I thought Oldboy was pretty crap... the plot was completely predictable, and so overly dramatic. Perhaps part the point was to be ugly and over the top, heavy handed etc to give the distasteful feeling... so I guess that was done well, but nothing else i could say was interesting about this movie.
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
September 07 2009 02:29 GMT
#36
If you guys want a good K-film, go watch Brotherhood in War (Tae Guk Ki)

I might be a little biased because I love War films but who doesn't love war films?

And it beats the shit out of Saving Private Ryan
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DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
September 07 2009 03:34 GMT
#37
I liked Memento.

Haven't seen Oldboy yet. But I'll probably take Day[9]'s seal of disapproval to heart.
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SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-07 03:51:45
September 07 2009 03:51 GMT
#38
On September 07 2009 08:22 Shauni wrote:
I didn't like Oldboy much either. I might not have been as disappointed as you but it was certainly not a great movie. Watch 'Seom' instead if you want a good korean movie!


that movie will make you cry

it's also very good for a war movie
a
ero
Profile Joined April 2009
United States66 Posts
September 07 2009 04:02 GMT
#39
I didn't really like Oldboy. But I didn't really understand it fully either.

Since my friends recommended the movie to me, I thought I'd ask them to explain the movie. They couldn't, which led me to the conclusion that it's just good psuedo-intellectual bait (ooh it has subtitles and some weird artsy feel to it!).

Dunno, maybe the movie really is good.

My Lady Vengeance was pretty cool though.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
September 07 2009 04:03 GMT
#40
It was really good in a theatre. Maybe it loses something on video or a monitor. It felt like it drew me in enough that its brutality and violence made it impossible for me to find it predictable.

Maybe I've seen enough brutal movies since then that I would feel differently. It reminds me of Ebert's review of Aliens.
I don't know how else to describe this: The movie made me feel bad. It filled me with feelings of unease and disquiet and anxiety. I walked outside and I didn't want to talk to anyone. I was drained. I'm not sure "Aliens" is what we mean by entertainment. Yet I have to be accurate about this movie: It is a superb example of filmmaking craft.

By now it probably would not be considered a huge shocker of a movie, and people might also feel that its plot was predictable.

Saving Private Ryan's opening scene is enough to make it a better movie than Tae guk ki, though that says more about the former than the latter. The elite north korean team meleeing the south koreans in battle broke my suspension of disbelief.
MK
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States496 Posts
September 07 2009 04:13 GMT
#41
Why people should like Korean movies :
boys : the fight
girls : the emo-drama
gays : cf. girls.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
September 07 2009 04:25 GMT
#42
On September 07 2009 13:02 ero wrote:
I didn't really like Oldboy. But I didn't really understand it fully either.

Since my friends recommended the movie to me, I thought I'd ask them to explain the movie. They couldn't, which led me to the conclusion that it's just good psuedo-intellectual bait (ooh it has subtitles and some weird artsy feel to it!).

Dunno, maybe the movie really is good.

My Lady Vengeance was pretty cool though.

It boggles me how neither you or your friends understood the movie. It seriously was not that complicated.

That's just sad.
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
September 09 2009 20:16 GMT
#43
that stool is horribly imbalanced
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-09 20:24:34
September 09 2009 20:21 GMT
#44
Sorry, but I can offer no explanation to you.

Horrible movie. I stopped watching after about 30-45 minutes.

Edit: If you want to watch some good Korean films, I personally really liked Chi Hwa Son (취화선) and Soe Pyon Je (서편제).
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
September 09 2009 20:31 GMT
#45
I loved Oldboy.

Intense, great photo. Story maybe a bit half-assed after all but it's an awesome movie
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0.5_A_Glass
Profile Joined September 2009
United States3 Posts
October 01 2009 11:57 GMT
#46
less gasp

moar ughh yuck

@ the twist that is
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
October 01 2009 12:05 GMT
#47
Screw you people who thought the twist was predictable, I didn't expect it at all and it made the movie really interesting. If a movie is made for my entertainment I won't make it harder by, you know, thinking too much.
No I'm never serious.
0.5_A_Glass
Profile Joined September 2009
United States3 Posts
October 01 2009 12:19 GMT
#48
On October 01 2009 21:05 Nytefish wrote:
Screw you people who thought the twist was predictable, I didn't expect it at all and it made the movie really interesting. If a movie is made for my entertainment I won't make it harder by, you know, thinking too much.
Truly. I think that twist made separated the movie from the cliche vengeance-driven movies. The twist gave the movie a good amount of notoriety, too.
wtf is a supply depot?
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-01 12:34:27
October 01 2009 12:31 GMT
#49
It has a good plot, a sad ending, and it leaves you feeling a little stressed, a bit in awe. Quite opposite of hollywood movies.

It also basically had a little bit of everything: humor, romance, action, suspense, etc.


The plot wasnt in the very least predictable yeah. Charlies opinions as always are worthless, he rates the departed a 10, while giving infernal affairs a 2, what the fuck?
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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
October 01 2009 12:36 GMT
#50
I LOVED Lady Vengeance

Oldboy on the other hand, I didn't really enjoy it too much
I didn't feel like the movie was overrated by any means, I just didn't feel like I was satisfied with it
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Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
October 01 2009 12:41 GMT
#51
I ran across the soundtrack before I really heard about the movie. I actually watched it a couple weeks ago though: my primary impression is the dissonance between the relatively light and almost "cheerful" soundtrack and the dark tone of the movie. Overall I felt it was a very well done and fascinating movie, but not necessarily something I would have watched if I had really known anything about it.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25977 Posts
October 01 2009 15:21 GMT
#52
I watched it while unbelievably hungover, and was expecting nothing, so it turned out really well and I liked it.

I think expectations play a huge role in the enjoyability of a movie.
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Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
October 01 2009 19:20 GMT
#53
On September 07 2009 01:03 skronch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2009 19:49 jello_biafra wrote:
Mainly that fight scene, the octopus scene, the music and the fact that you can hear someone playing BW at one point.

Ip Man was awesome and I also recommend the good, the bad and the weird.

what part of the movie is this? i must have completely missed this.

some scene in the Daesu's old friend's cafe bang
you can hear someone doing a tank push TvP
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
October 01 2009 20:36 GMT
#54
On October 02 2009 00:21 Chill wrote:
I think expectations play a huge role in the enjoyability of a movie.


Definately. People don't just randomly like movies, it's all about what movies you "think" you like and want to be associated with liking, and what expectations a person has about a movie.
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tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
October 01 2009 20:39 GMT
#55
I watched it before I really knew any of the hype behind it and I really liked it. I think people having it so built up before watching it would be bad.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-01 21:36:09
October 01 2009 21:35 GMT
#56
On October 01 2009 21:31 Cloud wrote:
It has a good plot, a sad ending, and it leaves you feeling a little stressed, a bit in awe. Quite opposite of hollywood movies.

It also basically had a little bit of everything: humor, romance, action, suspense, etc.


The plot wasnt in the very least predictable yeah. Charlies opinions as always are worthless, he rates the departed a 10, while giving infernal affairs a 2, what the fuck?

That's because infernal affairs sucks ass. A good director (with good actors) got a hold of the story and made it good.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
October 01 2009 22:33 GMT
#57
found it pretty awesome as well.

it's just such a great idea to make a movie about someone who is conditioned all the way through. he can't even escape his "fate"...

maybe some of you won't like the style because you're only accustomed to americanesque movies? (this movie is very drastic)
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
October 01 2009 22:38 GMT
#58
probably the most depressing movie I've ever seen. I watched it and was just dead for like 3 days after.

Tried to watch it again a while ago, but just couldnt get through it.
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Old]Boy[
Profile Joined July 2010
Switzerland6 Posts
December 15 2010 12:19 GMT
#59
Me neighter @deathgod6 i like it aswell
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FiBsTeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States415 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 17:45:50
December 15 2010 12:28 GMT
#60
Man 3 pages of comments and I'm the only one who thought this was about Nal_Ra. What's going on here.

Have not even heard of this movie.

EDIT: Oh did not notice the date. :x
Warri
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December 15 2010 14:09 GMT
#61
[x] seen day9 posting something is imba.
thx for the necrobump!
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