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Warcraft 3............Did you Get it ?!
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intruding
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LeperKahn
Romania1849 Posts
Also, ORC IMBA! Here's his post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=87117 | ||
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FragKrag
United States11566 Posts
It's a bit more complex to understand, but once you do, it makes just as much sense as SC. | ||
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Butigroove
Seychelles2061 Posts
I think having an imba hero like that makes the game more exciting. I love both games (sc and wc3 that is), and playing NE vs ORC is fun because its action packed and you KNOW the blademaster is coming you just don't know if you can stop him. I've never sworn more at any hero. | ||
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illu
Canada2531 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11566 Posts
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On August 22 2009 11:18 FragKrag wrote: Orc is imbalanced, and I doubt you could understand the intricacies of Starcraft by watching a few games. WC3 is an OK game, but it just happens to be a bit unbalanced (IN FAVOR OF FUCKING ORC). It's a bit more complex to understand, but once you do, it makes just as much sense as SC. I always heard it was imbalanced towards Night Elf or something. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11566 Posts
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intruding
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
also i think a majority of the problem comes from giving every unit a health bar hovering above them covering half the map in health bars not giving you the ability to see anything except crazy colors and parts of units at least from a spectating perspective i've never played wc3 aside from single palyer | ||
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GoSu
Korea (South)1773 Posts
On August 22 2009 11:13 LeperKahn wrote: The Storyteller made a great article on this. He really should be an asset that blizzard uses he is eloquent and has great ideas. Also, ORC IMBA! Here's his post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=87117 Orc isnt imba. The BM is. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11566 Posts
Mahnini, once you take the small amount of time to learn what WC3 is like, it will become much, much clearer. I'm sure you weren't able to figure exactly what was happening in a SC game your first 2 or 3 games of watching it. I'm not saying WC3 is a great spectator sport (which it isn't, but it's ok), but SC players don't give it enough time. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
On August 22 2009 11:13 LeperKahn wrote: The Storyteller made a great article on this. He really should be an asset that blizzard uses he is eloquent and has great ideas. Also, ORC IMBA! Here's his post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=87117 I don't know that I agree with Storyteller about how tension is built. If the audience isn't given adequate information or reason to suspect something, suddenly introducing a brand new element is called a cop out and bad writing. Convenient ways to tie up plot holes. How many times did you watch kid's shows in your youth that would present an unwinnable situation right before commercial break, and then you're like "OOOH MAN, HOW THE HECK DOES HE GET OUT OF THIS??" and it turns out that something completely improbable and unpredictable happens like a brand new character is introduced, or the villain with a gun to the hero's head has a heart attack. Maybe it's just the way he worded it that doesn't sound right to me. A good story leaves the audience wondering what is going to happen next, but gives them a chance to guess right too. Most sports are painfully dull if you don't know anything about the players or the team. If you DO understand the psychology of the players, then yeah, it's really exciting to see if you guessed right, and to see how it will pan out and what guesses you can make on new information. But StarCraft would basically suck if you had no insight into what the players were thinking at the time. That's why replays of strangers are painfully dull, but your own replays with your friends seem like works of art, even if you're observing your most nooby days of SC. The reason it's hard to get into WarCraft III for a lot of people, is we aren't familiar with any of the players. The few of us who know who MooN and Grubby are find their games exciting, but feel bored by other's unless colourful commentary tells us who they are. That said, on topic I don't think WarCraft III is that hard to understand, especially from a spectator's point of view. Just remember that every time a player loses a unit, and gives experience to their opponent, they get farther behind for when the big clash finally comes. | ||
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Neon_Monkey
United States270 Posts
And back when I played orc was actually thought of as the weakest race, next to undead. Back then people rarely used the blademaster except maybe vs NE, which was considered a really imba MU anyways so it was never really clear what was ideal. But now Orc seems to dominate and NE to a lesser extent. But before when I played there was still a pretty good distribution of races, but these days it just seems to be all Orc vs Orc and NE vs NE. At least that is what I see whenever I look at the pic for one of the vids on Gom or Jon747's account. Which not only makes it more boring just because of the lack of multiple MU, but double so because they are mirrors. I am kind of wondering why I haven't seen any orc vs NE, though I'm sure I just never looked hard enough. What I mostly hated was the upkeep system. It punishes you for making a large army, and a very large punishment at that. And it makes expansions a lot less appealing and risky so people just tend to not do it...except the last time I watched human vs UD it just seemed like the HU would take 4+ bases with 10000 towers and then mass siege tanks or flying machines after he got 4k gold, which isn't a whole lot more exciting. But SC2 doesn't have such a system, so no matter what I still think it will be a great game...eventually. | ||
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maga33
United States247 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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Luddite
United States2315 Posts
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Chef
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uglymoose89
United States671 Posts
On August 22 2009 13:45 GreEny K wrote: "Lurkers rape Zerglings" When the hell has anyone seen a ZVZ that made it to lurker tech? This was awhile ago. | ||
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