EPTTLnet Poll - How interested would you be in watching compe…
How interested would you be in watching competitive SC2 without the ESL and GSL tours? :
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TL.net134 Posts
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CicadaSC
United States1861 Posts
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Balnazza
Germany1257 Posts
Those who can live from streaming will probably keep up some level of skill, but it wouldn't be nearly as high as it is today. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
The level of competition is not hugely important to me, so pro players becoming part-timers isn't much of a problem. High-level Starcraft can be very fun even if the players aren't quite as sharp as before and I'm not sure I can see the difference anyway if I'm honest. But if GSL or ESL end, I would probably not replace those with smaller ''one-off'' online events or weekly the likes of which Wardi or others are organizing. I have nothing against those, but nowadays I need something more than just Starcraft 2 to commit a lot of hours to watching. If the scene is just grinding online tournaments I'll tune in once in a while because I obviously like watching SC2, but probably not as intensely as I've done in the last decade or so. | ||
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sidasf
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Poopi
France12908 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26242 Posts
I still enjoy watching WC3, sure it’s past its peak but you’ve still got legends going at it in impactful matches. If SC2 downsizes, but a good chunk of these players we’ve watched for years stick around, maybe a few new names crop up, well worth a watch even if it’s a bit smaller. If basically everyone moves on to pastures new and it’s a case of watching which prior B/C tier players end up King/Queen of the new pile, I’m not crazy interested in that. | ||
Waxangel
United States33553 Posts
On August 13 2024 08:44 WombaT wrote: Depends entirely on what replaces it, who sticks around etc. I still enjoy watching WC3, sure it’s past its peak but you’ve still got legends going at it in impactful matches. If SC2 downsizes, but a good chunk of these players we’ve watched for years stick around, maybe a few new names crop up, well worth a watch even if it’s a bit smaller. If basically everyone moves on to pastures new and it’s a case of watching which prior B/C tier players end up King/Queen of the new pile, I’m not crazy interested in that. I'd also find a War3-sized scene to still be enjoyable, but I do wonder if top SC2 players are less likely to stick around because they came up in a scene that was VERY well supported financially and have their expectations anchored quite high. | ||
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Blitzball04
191 Posts
Don’t really care for the KR scene for years. I’m okay with just the ESL scene and their quarterly big tournaments such as dreamhack etc. | ||
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radracer
United States73 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany7072 Posts
If ESL ends there would be nothing left. We had some good times and I'll always cherish the memories <3 | ||
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MJG
United Kingdom1397 Posts
Unless another game comes along that captures my imagination like this one, I don't see why I wouldn't. | ||
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luxon
United States117 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26242 Posts
On August 13 2024 11:48 Waxangel wrote: I'd also find a War3-sized scene to still be enjoyable, but I do wonder if top SC2 players are less likely to stick around because they came up in a scene that was VERY well supported financially and have their expectations anchored quite high. Aye, I guess plenty of these folks do love the game so might stick around even if it’s to just play part-time for tournies and stuff. Maybe wouldn’t be quite as high a standard in terms of gameplay, but sometimes that’s not actually the most watchable as a spectacle. They’re very talented RTS players after all, we still haven’t seen too many top players migrate elsewhere, but even that next tier down (or even lower) were pretty immediately competitive in other recent titles. If SC2 downsizes further, but still has a bit of money floating around my guess would be the top guys will stick around, or if not, just retire from competitive gaming and do something else. Plenty of maybes there I suppose | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1257 Posts
On August 13 2024 11:48 Waxangel wrote: I'd also find a War3-sized scene to still be enjoyable, but I do wonder if top SC2 players are less likely to stick around because they came up in a scene that was VERY well supported financially and have their expectations anchored quite high. I think expectations is definetly a thing. WC3 always had big offline events, but the most part of it was randomly thrown together online tournaments and team leagues, so the scene never was used to something like a GSL or the EWC. Hell, without consistent video-streaming at the time, we often didn't even really get to see some of the bigger tournaments or enjoy the storylines like we do in SC2. Another example is Age of Empires 2. The game got carried for ten+ years by its community alone, everything was "crowd-made". Only in the last few years have there been offline tournaments and bigger online tourneys, since Microsoft and Redbull throw in some bucks. But if Redbull would stop that for example, the scene would be completly fine - because the fans are not used to having multiple offline events per year. SC2 fans are "spoiled" that way. A year without offline events wouldn't be fine, it would mean doomsday. And without ESL, there would probably be a sizeable gap before figures of the community raise up to organize their own tournaments again and fill the calendar. There was also the thing that when WC3 as a top-dog ended, the biggest reason for it was SC2 itself, there was something to jump ship to - something that immediately offered a lot more money aswell. I don't see that at the moment. | ||
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baldgye
United Kingdom1103 Posts
Honestly one of the issues I have with most of the middle of the road tournaments and events, is the casting. | ||
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Blargh
United States2103 Posts
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SoleSteeler
Canada5457 Posts
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radracer
United States73 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17258 Posts
On August 15 2024 07:45 SoleSteeler wrote: I'll keep watching SC2 until it's completely gone. Without ESL/GSL it would be pretty lackluster though. When it dies you can always watch EA NHL '94 competitive events! There is a big one in Toronto in late September. The last one sold out and had people hanging off the rafters. I think competitive SC2 will keep going until Microsoft pulls the plug. | ||
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