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TLnet Poll - On a scale of 1-5, how much did you enjoy TSL5?

On a scale of 1-5, how much did you enjoy TSL5? :

5 (742)35%
I didn't watch TSL5 (539)26%
4 (492)23%
3 (183)9%
2 (80)4%
1 (72)3%

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TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net134 Posts
June 09 2020 06:40 GMT
#1
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
June 09 2020 13:51 GMT
#2
I liked the TSL 5 and I hope we see a TSL 6 soon enough! Not sure if having just 2 games on the final day was a good move though.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
SC-Shield
Profile Joined December 2018
Bulgaria836 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-09 19:17:04
June 09 2020 19:15 GMT
#3
Well, there wasn't much hype like TSL 1 and 2 even though they were in BW. What TSL5 missed is rivalry and stories. I didn't follow all games, it's possible that I missed something but that's how I see it. I remember in TSL 1 or 2 NonY was saying that Draco's fans will belong to him if he wins, there was some tension between them. Also, Serral and Reynor were eliminated early which is unfortunate for some viewers. Hopefully TSL 6 is more interesting.
Mettis
Profile Joined June 2019
84 Posts
June 10 2020 00:50 GMT
#4
On June 10 2020 04:15 SC-Shield wrote:
Well, there wasn't much hype like TSL 1 and 2 even though they were in BW. What TSL5 missed is rivalry and stories. I didn't follow all games, it's possible that I missed something but that's how I see it. I remember in TSL 1 or 2 NonY was saying that Draco's fans will belong to him if he wins, there was some tension between them. Also, Serral and Reynor were eliminated early which is unfortunate for some viewers. Hopefully TSL 6 is more interesting.


I don't agree much, we had Serral vs Elazer which is a rivalry in itself. We then had a Reynor vs Serral arguably the hottest SC2 rivalry for the past 2 years. For story we had a TeamLiquid foreigner make a sick run and soO winning another tournament, beating the hottest Korean Terran right now in a game 7.
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines895 Posts
June 10 2020 05:49 GMT
#5
On June 10 2020 09:50 Mettis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2020 04:15 SC-Shield wrote:
Well, there wasn't much hype like TSL 1 and 2 even though they were in BW. What TSL5 missed is rivalry and stories. I didn't follow all games, it's possible that I missed something but that's how I see it. I remember in TSL 1 or 2 NonY was saying that Draco's fans will belong to him if he wins, there was some tension between them. Also, Serral and Reynor were eliminated early which is unfortunate for some viewers. Hopefully TSL 6 is more interesting.


I don't agree much, we had Serral vs Elazer which is a rivalry in itself. We then had a Reynor vs Serral arguably the hottest SC2 rivalry for the past 2 years. For story we had a TeamLiquid foreigner make a sick run and soO winning another tournament, beating the hottest Korean Terran right now in a game 7.


Also dont forget that soo vs innovation is a rivalry of the ages. Inno always has the upper hand when soo and him ran into finals. It was this tournament that soo finally triumphs against innovation on a premier stage and soo has only 4 months remaining on this scene..
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
niliustv
Profile Joined July 2018
1 Post
June 10 2020 08:17 GMT
#6
Well characters these days arent as edgy as they were back in 2011. You are missing an Idra or a Naniwa in this day and age. The one that gets closest to this is parting and probably heromarine. Everyone else is just always nice and cool. A little more drama is what sc2 in its whole could use a bit more of. And not the kind of drama that reddit mods do what they want.

Remember the good old TL vs EG rivalrys? Or even more specific Idra vs Huk?

You dont get moments like this though without the personalitys backing them up.

THats not TSLs fault. It was an awesome tournament. The downtime was as low as possible. No Productionissues. Cool Animations, Music in between Games and the "TSL Soundboard" is something legendary (yaaaaaay!).


Also the ting call in was a very nice idea. Only that i think it got used to few times.

+ DAY9 was there - even though you could hear that he is obviously not up to date with any kind of meta it was still awesome to see him back.

All in all - i loved tsl5 and was watching every single game of it. Hope for a new edition soon - maybe with some more HomeStory Cup elements, like videos in between or so.
Shyknee
Profile Joined July 2019
3 Posts
June 10 2020 13:00 GMT
#7
I love the art work that went into it...I could see that there was a effort made.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 11 2020 09:05 GMT
#8
On June 10 2020 14:49 SamirDuran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2020 09:50 Mettis wrote:
On June 10 2020 04:15 SC-Shield wrote:
Well, there wasn't much hype like TSL 1 and 2 even though they were in BW. What TSL5 missed is rivalry and stories. I didn't follow all games, it's possible that I missed something but that's how I see it. I remember in TSL 1 or 2 NonY was saying that Draco's fans will belong to him if he wins, there was some tension between them. Also, Serral and Reynor were eliminated early which is unfortunate for some viewers. Hopefully TSL 6 is more interesting.


I don't agree much, we had Serral vs Elazer which is a rivalry in itself. We then had a Reynor vs Serral arguably the hottest SC2 rivalry for the past 2 years. For story we had a TeamLiquid foreigner make a sick run and soO winning another tournament, beating the hottest Korean Terran right now in a game 7.


Also dont forget that soo vs innovation is a rivalry of the ages. Inno always has the upper hand when soo and him ran into finals. It was this tournament that soo finally triumphs against innovation on a premier stage and soo has only 4 months remaining on this scene..

Premier lol
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
fplfpl
Profile Joined June 2020
2 Posts
June 11 2020 13:26 GMT
#9
The Rotterdam/ZombieGrub duo was not a good duo ; and having this duo for the final day was really disappointing to me.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
June 11 2020 20:29 GMT
#10
Would've loved some more player interviews, but I enjoyed it a ton!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
RandomPlayer
Profile Joined April 2012
Russian Federation400 Posts
June 12 2020 07:40 GMT
#11
On June 11 2020 22:26 fplfpl wrote:
The Rotterdam/ZombieGrub duo was not a good duo ; and having this duo for the final day was really disappointing to me.


I agree, I'm not a fan of her casting coz she's overconfident and tries to be right no matter what. Also, the music was awkward and not fitting. Rest of the casting and the games were great, so it was enjoyable (voted as 4).
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
June 13 2020 00:10 GMT
#12
serral losing early killed this tournament for me. just made for koreans dominating.
soO winning also doesn't feel right. honestly, took away a lot from it to me. made it feel like a weekly cup to me :/
didn't even care to watch most games anymore. voted 3
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DivinesiaTV
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland58 Posts
June 13 2020 19:38 GMT
#13
I have to say also that overconfident Zombiegrub casting made this feel more a weekly tournament. Day9 being back though and finding some chemistry with Rottie was awesome!
Always look at the bright side of life
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
June 13 2020 23:48 GMT
#14
Hmm... I love Day[9] but he felt really out of place. He kept saying very obvious and generic things, really shows how he doesn't follow Starcraft like he once did.

I did enjoy Zombiegrub and Rottie though.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
June 15 2020 08:26 GMT
#15
On June 14 2020 04:38 DivinesiaTV wrote:
Day9 being back though and finding some chemistry with Rottie was awesome!


I also really enjoyed this.

Honestly I was fine with ZombieGrub's casting too, but I was really REALY hoping for Day9 and Rotti to do the finals. Also I too was disappointed by having multiple games on the final day. I think the previous style of building up the hype for that final game made it more exciting.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
June 16 2020 14:35 GMT
#16
definitely a very good tourney and pleasantly surprised by how sharp Day9 commentary looked, I hope we get to see him again in the near future. I gave a 4/5 because this format is not my favorite and I found the music atrocious - I know there are people who absolutely loved it, but I definitely wasn't one of them ^^
nerdchill
Profile Joined May 2019
16 Posts
June 17 2020 14:47 GMT
#17
I feel TSL5 had a great start and I really enjoyed the group stages,
(including rotti and day9s excellent commentray)
but it became much less fun to watch towards the end.
The quality of games just wasn't compared to something like stay at homestory cup (1 & 2)
vyzion
Profile Joined August 2016
308 Posts
June 17 2020 15:32 GMT
#18
I loved the art, the casting, the games, the music, day 9, etc. more games on last day and if only serral didn’t get knocked out so early
Calliope
Profile Joined July 2018
297 Posts
June 17 2020 23:00 GMT
#19
I really enjoyed the tournament
Clément 화이팅
stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
June 19 2020 14:01 GMT
#20
There are countless online tournaments with decent prize pools these days so it was hard for TSL 5 to really stand out. It
actually took me a moment now to remember how this one went and who won it. Qualifiers went poorly and the fact that the foreigner trinity of hype (Serral, Clem, Reynor) ended up taking each other out was a bit anti-climatic.

I liked everything else. Many great games and stories, production, contests, uncompromisingly distinct flavor. And most importantly - a few weekends in a row full of high quality sc2. I would like to see TL writers showing up as experts but I understand that professional screen personalities were a safer choice.

And since some people raised this - ZG's casting was actually my favorite during this event. If anything, there were moments when the other casters seemed uncharacteristically tired and irritable to me.
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