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TLnet Poll - How is the Korean-Foreigner gap compared to 2…

How is the Korean-Foreigner gap compared to 2018? (SC2) :

Narrower (383)55%
About the same (267)38%
Wider (50)7%

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TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net131 Posts
November 06 2019 00:59 GMT
#1
Riner1212
Profile Joined November 2012
United States337 Posts
November 06 2019 04:13 GMT
#2
Foreigners have caught up and can rival korean pro's
Sjow "pretty ez life as protoss"
SPcrusader
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway99 Posts
November 06 2019 15:15 GMT
#3
About the same. If we compare Ro16 and Ro8 the amount of Koreans is EXACTLY the same like in 2018. I love a good foreigner thrashing and Dark did not disappoint. Also that double spine drone rush was a kind gesture from Dark-senpai!
https://www.twitch.tv/spcrusader
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States873 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-06 16:33:13
November 06 2019 16:32 GMT
#4
Blizzcon was the same, GSL vs the World was much better for foreigners this year compared to last year. Still, when you only have 2 tournaments per year that have equal numbers of Koreans and foreigners, it's hard to say anything with a high degree of confidence.

This year also saw the continued rise of Reynor who finally found success against top Koreans at the end of the year and gives substance to foreigner hopes that Serral doesn't have to be the lone pillar against Koreans moving forward.

I think the gap is still very similar to last year, but maybe slightly closing.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
junkratsdog
Profile Joined October 2019
6 Posts
November 07 2019 07:56 GMT
#5
SHOWTIME ALMOST BEAT DARK 3-2
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
November 07 2019 22:11 GMT
#6
On November 07 2019 16:56 junkratsdog wrote:
SHOWTIME ALMOST BEAT DARK 3-2

So what you're telling me is he lost.
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pitbulTweety
Profile Joined February 2019
4 Posts
November 08 2019 18:07 GMT
#7
foreigners this word is terrible. star craft should not be so much about where you come from. it's better to just call people players.
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5502 Posts
November 10 2019 00:12 GMT
#8
Nah it's a fun thing left over from broodwar where we literally could not touch even the worst of the korean pros. Now we kinda have a chance most of the time if it's our best players. Uphold the segregation!!
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Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States873 Posts
November 10 2019 06:19 GMT
#9
On November 09 2019 03:07 pitbulTweety wrote:
foreigners this word is terrible. star craft should not be so much about where you come from. it's better to just call people players.


I get the sentiment, but I don't think it's inherently a derogatory term. Given Starcraft's history as an esport, it makes sense to have separated the player bases into "South Koreans" and "everyone else" (aka foreigners). It wasn't until extremely recently in the grand scheme of things that anyone outside of Korea could be considered the best in the world or even close to it, and old habits die hard.

Plus, most people who use the term when talking about Starcraft are foreigners themselves and don't take offense to it (you're the first person I've seen take issue with it). It's more of a matter-of-fact identifier, like calling someone from Canada a Canadian.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
Agh
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States944 Posts
November 10 2019 08:55 GMT
#10
With the state of balance and maps it's a tough call. Serral Dark and Reynor have maintained their positions at the top. The zvp state is pretty atrocious for the players, hopefully they get it to a more stable level that will allow a better player to separate himself from his opponent.
I may appear to be an emotionless sarcastic pos, but just like an onion when you pull off more and more layers you find the exact same thing everytime and you start crying
ProFalseIdol
Profile Joined June 2018
70 Posts
November 10 2019 20:06 GMT
#11
They should make all maps 8 player map size, but only 2 main bases. Then give Infestors Tactical Jump! That should do it. Haha.
ProFalseIdol
Profile Joined June 2018
70 Posts
November 10 2019 20:13 GMT
#12
On November 07 2019 01:32 Kitai wrote:
Blizzcon was the same, GSL vs the World was much better for foreigners this year compared to last year. Still, when you only have 2 tournaments per year that have equal numbers of Koreans and foreigners, it's hard to say anything with a high degree of confidence.

This year also saw the continued rise of Reynor who finally found success against top Koreans at the end of the year and gives substance to foreigner hopes that Serral doesn't have to be the lone pillar against Koreans moving forward.

I think the gap is still very similar to last year, but maybe slightly closing.


Well there's IEM Katowice. IEM PyeongChang, WESG, WCG, ASUS ROG. Then there's online tournaments.

GvtW is a showmatch in the middle of Code S, ofc you wouldn't wanna show your gameplay there, you might wanna play even worse for mind game.

Nevertheless, Special, Neeb, Scarlett, Reynor etc has shorten the gap.
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