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TLnet Poll - Who will win the 2019 Global Finals? (Again!)

Who will win the 2019 Global Finals? (Again!) :

Serral (861)54%
Dark (376)24%
Maru (164)10%
Reynor (58)4%
Rogue (45)3%
Classic (33)2%
soO (32)2%
Trap (18)1%

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TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net133 Posts
October 30 2019 08:12 GMT
#1
EndlessViolence
Profile Joined January 2011
115 Posts
October 30 2019 09:20 GMT
#2
people will jinx this
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
October 30 2019 18:48 GMT
#3
That's a lot of Serral votes. Deservedly so I guess
Mine gas, build tanks.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
October 30 2019 18:53 GMT
#4
An idea for the third poll : foreigner or Korean.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
October 30 2019 19:43 GMT
#5
On October 31 2019 03:48 Akio wrote:
That's a lot of Serral votes. Deservedly so I guess

we must bring it down to 50%.
Serral winning the title is always 50%.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
October 30 2019 19:47 GMT
#6
How is Rogue so low?
paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
October 31 2019 08:59 GMT
#7
1% for each of the Protoss players even though their skill is top tier, ooof.
So despite there being 2 out of 8 protoss players, people think Protoss have a 2% chance to win the tournament, bleak times.
Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden590 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-31 12:17:39
October 31 2019 12:14 GMT
#8
This poll is really skewed towards favourites. I do not think there is a ~70% chance that Serral wins it all, but I think he is the most likely winner. Aligulac predicts a 52% win chance for Serral, supporting my belief.
Aligulac says 89% win vs soO, with a 76% chance at facing Reynor in the semifinal.
The finals has a 32% chance to be vs Maru, 27% chance vs Rogue, 25% vs Dark and 16% vs Classic.

Just asking "who wins?" is an easy way to make it look like statistics says something it doesn't. This is an opinion piece, with a few hundred data points, asking for a specific scenario. I would be interested in a full on % per matchup, but the TL poll system is not really made for that.

My percentage prediction is (leaving out losing scenarios):
Serral 80% vs soO
Reynor 60% vs Trap
Rogue 55% vs Classic
Dark 48% vs Maru

Serral 55% vs Reynor
Rogue 45% vs Maru

Serral 60% vs Maru

Fun sidenote: Aligulac predicts Dark>Maru and a Serral vs Rogue finals, but Maru is second most likely to win it all.
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Dedraterllaerau
Profile Joined May 2019
113 Posts
October 31 2019 19:45 GMT
#9
no pressure serral no pressure
shadow4723
Profile Joined October 2018
87 Posts
October 31 2019 19:49 GMT
#10
so all I get from this is that Serral is gonna win and GGemini made 8 accounts to vote for Trap
sugarmuffinpuff
Profile Joined October 2014
Canada38 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-01 10:57:46
October 31 2019 23:49 GMT
#11
On October 31 2019 21:14 Drfilip wrote:
This poll is really skewed towards favourites. I do not think there is a ~70% chance that Serral wins it all, but I think he is the most likely winner. Aligulac predicts a 52% win chance for Serral, supporting my belief.
Aligulac says 89% win vs soO, with a 76% chance at facing Reynor in the semifinal.
The finals has a 32% chance to be vs Maru, 27% chance vs Rogue, 25% vs Dark and 16% vs Classic.

Just asking "who wins?" is an easy way to make it look like statistics says something it doesn't. This is an opinion piece, with a few hundred data points, asking for a specific scenario. I would be interested in a full on % per matchup, but the TL poll system is not really made for that.


Exactly. People shouldn't mistake "70% of the community think Serral has the best chance to win" for "the community thinks Serral has a 70% chance of winning."
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-01 06:06:56
November 01 2019 06:05 GMT
#12
I'd give Serral a solid 50, just because of the upset potential in ZvZ, either way he is favored against every single player here except the Last Terran. My opinions on the contenders:
1. Serral: The best player and he's certainly playing the best race, in a meta that favors the way he likes playing his race. Obvious favorite.
2. Maru: The best Terran, seems safe from the dreaded Protoss who ruined his tournament ambitions this year, and TvZ looks far better than PvZ.
3&4: The Korean Zergs, very distinct from each other and also very distinct from Serral, but a few good ZvZs could give either of them a big paycheck.
5. soO: soO is a very clutch player outside of finals, if he upsets Serral he can go all the way. Beating ''impossible'' oponents(before finals) is just what he does.
6. Reynor: Seems to struggle against Koreans and despite being the best Serral killer in the world, he still dies to Serral more often than he wins.
7&8: The old and the new Protoss hope, they certainly could extend their tournament life if they got Maru but this is looking like a Zerg affair, and all Zerg players here have beaten them comfortably in the last month.

This seems like an easy tournament for Serral, only god mode Maru could mess this up in my opinion.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
November 01 2019 12:32 GMT
#13
btw, in approximately 8 hours soo will eliminate serral
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
November 01 2019 16:08 GMT
#14
SERRAL SUOMI PERKELE
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
pitbulTweety
Profile Joined February 2019
4 Posts
November 01 2019 21:44 GMT
#15
I've just watched the first game Serral played versus soO. Tasteless is so right. His playstyle in early, middle and late game is perfect. There's nothing more to add from me. I think Serral is going to win the tournament. I think as long as Serral is playing this good, it'll be so hard for the others to beat him. Try your very best! glhf
KalmeCavia1011
Profile Joined March 2019
1 Post
November 01 2019 22:12 GMT
#16
I can say it'll be all about 6 letters: _ _ _ _ _ _. Guess who I'm talking about. glhf!
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
November 01 2019 22:18 GMT
#17
Serral just made himself even more of a favourite with that 3-0. So solid.
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
narusensei22
Profile Joined October 2018
31 Posts
November 02 2019 07:24 GMT
#18
now.. this is becoming bit awkward for foreign fans :/
ProFalseIdol
Profile Joined June 2018
70 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-02 18:06:49
November 02 2019 18:06 GMT
#19
On November 02 2019 16:24 narusensei22 wrote:
now.. this is becoming bit awkward for foreign fans :/


Yeah, too much hype for Serral. And this has happened with Neeb before. And unlike Neeb, Serral has never won any tournament where qualifier is open to all.

Now foreign fans point out Zerg is broken. Lols.

All hype, no championships to back it up.
DanceSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States751 Posts
November 02 2019 18:53 GMT
#20
I am so glad Dark won hahaha, I wish Trap beat Reynor though but oh well. Seriously, with the amount of praise the casters were giving serral, I was so happy to see the upset. If your drinking game included the casters bringing up Serral when he wasn't playing you wouldn't have been able to make it past the ro16. I dont know, the whole thing was extremely obnoxious and the balance issues were pretty apparent. Hopefully we can get a year where a t and p make it to the finals.
Dance.943 || "I think he's just going to lose. There's only so many ways you can lose. And he's going to make some kind of units. And I'm going to attack him, and then all his stuff is going to die. That's about the best prediction that I can make" - NonY
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