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TLnet Poll - Who is the greatest Zerg of LotV?

Who is the greatest Zerg of LotV? :

Serral (923)72%
Dark (181)14%
soO (117)9%
Rogue (54)4%

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TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net135 Posts
June 24 2019 16:32 GMT
#1
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
June 26 2019 17:48 GMT
#2
soO is fourth to me on that list. He was the best zerg of HotS overall, but he hasn't had as many results in LotV. He really deserved that big premier IEM Katowice win, but the others on the list either won Blizzcon or the combination of GSL + SSL, which I rate higher.

The rest is pretty tough. Rogue had one of the best continuous winning streaks in premier tournaments with IEM-Super Tournament-Blizzcon-IEM, and so probably had the highest peak. Dark has 16 ro4+ (3x SSL, 3x IEM, 4x GSL, 3x ST, WESG, GSLvsWorld, Blizzcon) finishes in premier tournaments all throughout LotV so he wins consistency, and Serral (together with Maru & Stats) dominated 2018 after IEM Katowice, but did so mostly against foreign competition. At that point it becomes a question of how you weigh everything.
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freelifeffs
Profile Joined April 2018
97 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-27 14:05:52
June 27 2019 14:05 GMT
#3
soo the best zerg of hots? are you mental? or are we just intentionally ignoring the goat here?
saiaseigm1
Profile Joined June 2019
1 Post
June 27 2019 14:57 GMT
#4
It’s either Serral or Dark, and I’ve got “absolutely dominating WCS and winning at Blizzcon” over “placing well consistently and winning Code S” I can totally understand why some have it the other way around, butat Blizzcon, they went head to head and Serral made Dark look like he didn’t deserve to get out of groups. In a question like this, h2h results at top-level events has to factor in somewhat.

Rouge has had a few moments of greatness, but he hasn’t quite reached the same heights.
Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
June 28 2019 07:05 GMT
#5
Serral
Rogue
Dark
soO

Rogue and Dark are pretty close. 1 and 4 seem pretty clear cut imo.
Psz
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary52 Posts
June 28 2019 07:37 GMT
#6
soO should be second eventually.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
June 28 2019 17:07 GMT
#7
Dark
Rogue
soO
Serral

Pretty straight forward imo.
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Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-28 18:40:18
June 28 2019 18:38 GMT
#8
On June 29 2019 02:07 Charoisaur wrote:
Dark
Rogue
soO
Serral

Pretty straight forward imo.


Putting serral in last here is laughable. I'd understand putting him behind Dark, although I personally don't agree, but soO, while very consistently good, has never reached the heights of Rogue and Serral, and Rogue himself had one extremely high peak and proceeded to fade back into being a GSL ro8-ro4 caliber player. Serral displayed nearly an entire year of being above and beyond any and all competition, beating INno, Dark, and Stats at GSLVW, and then absolutely dismantling sOs, Dark, and Rogue and beating Stats at Blizzcon.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
June 28 2019 19:08 GMT
#9
On June 29 2019 03:38 Psychonian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2019 02:07 Charoisaur wrote:
Dark
Rogue
soO
Serral

Pretty straight forward imo.


Putting serral in last here is laughable. I'd understand putting him behind Dark, although I personally don't agree, but soO, while very consistently good, has never reached the heights of Rogue and Serral, and Rogue himself had one extremely high peak and proceeded to fade back into being a GSL ro8-ro4 caliber player. Serral displayed nearly an entire year of being above and beyond any and all competition, beating INno, Dark, and Stats at GSLVW, and then absolutely dismantling sOs, Dark, and Rogue and beating Stats at Blizzcon.

winning 2 tournaments against good players = "nearly an entire year of being above and beyond any and all competition"
???
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Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
June 28 2019 19:46 GMT
#10
On June 29 2019 04:08 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2019 03:38 Psychonian wrote:
On June 29 2019 02:07 Charoisaur wrote:
Dark
Rogue
soO
Serral

Pretty straight forward imo.


Putting serral in last here is laughable. I'd understand putting him behind Dark, although I personally don't agree, but soO, while very consistently good, has never reached the heights of Rogue and Serral, and Rogue himself had one extremely high peak and proceeded to fade back into being a GSL ro8-ro4 caliber player. Serral displayed nearly an entire year of being above and beyond any and all competition, beating INno, Dark, and Stats at GSLVW, and then absolutely dismantling sOs, Dark, and Rogue and beating Stats at Blizzcon.

winning 2 tournaments against good players = "nearly an entire year of being above and beyond any and all competition"
???

he won two consecutive tournaments against the absolute best players in the world, and in those tournaments and all the ones between them, dropped a singular series, which was against someone who had recently taken TY to the brink in the GSL semifinals.
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Riner1212
Profile Joined November 2012
United States337 Posts
June 28 2019 23:35 GMT
#11
I hate serral, but he is the best zerg. I will admit it considering how many times he took games of dark.
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Colouss
Profile Joined November 2013
United States501 Posts
July 01 2019 20:05 GMT
#12
On June 29 2019 08:35 Riner1212 wrote:
I hate serral, but he is the best zerg. I will admit it considering how many times he took games of dark.


I do understand that you hate serral, but he's 9-5 in maps and 3-1 in series against Dark in LotV. He hasn't lost a series against him in over 2 years. I wouldn't just call that taking games against dark.
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narusensei22
Profile Joined October 2018
31 Posts
July 01 2019 22:04 GMT
#13
Since Teamliquid is an international community.

Most of ppl will vote on Serral no matter how good he is among those 4, but he is actually the one best right now.
tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
July 02 2019 00:19 GMT
#14
HotS best zerg was Life, whom Serral also believes is the the best player (not just zerg) of all time. Of course Serral takes the LotV zerg crown. It's not even a hard choice, to be honest.
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