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TLnet Poll - KeSPA-IEG vs OGN-MBC, whose side are you on?

KeSPA-IEG vs OGN-MBC, whose side are you on? :

OGN and MBC, they're the mom and dad of proleague (438)40%
I have no idea what the hell is going on. (427)39%
KeSPA, they are trying to professionalize eSports. (100)9%
KeSPA, but they shouldn't have involved IEG. (76)7%
I come to TL.net but I don't care about progaming (44)4%

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jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
March 17 2007 12:37 GMT
#1
I'm really curious where people stand on this situation.
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zdd
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1463 Posts
March 17 2007 12:49 GMT
#2
Kespa, but they shouldn't have invovled IEG.
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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
March 17 2007 12:51 GMT
#3
Even though, both sides have some really good arguments, KeSPA has done nothing related to Organization of Proleague, I say this because, OGN and MBC are the ones behind the organization of it, and KeSPA just backstabbed them in the ass by selling the rights to some third-party organization without knowing they were selling the rights to some people who will just try to fuck everything up.,

I'm with OGN and MBC.
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
March 17 2007 13:01 GMT
#4
OGN and MBC.

Why the hell should IEG get profit for no effort over a profit grab tactic by kespa?

fuck you kespa.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
March 17 2007 13:09 GMT
#5
i have no idea what the hell is going on.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7231 Posts
March 17 2007 14:19 GMT
#6
OGN and MBC for sure.

Fuck you Kespa, and DOUBLE fuck you IEG. Money grabbing sons of bitches.
日本語が分かりますか
DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
March 17 2007 14:50 GMT
#7
go KeSPA

don't hurt me

they're just trying to make it more professional. shit changes and MBC and OGN are making a good change difficult (besides selling rights to IEG that was fucking stupid)
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
March 17 2007 17:27 GMT
#8
Screwww you KeSPA, so far everything that's got their name in it pretty much sucks.

Moreover I doubt if they really represent the gamers. They sound too much like a bunch of greedy bastards that control the players and bitch with OGN/MBC.
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[Carlodajin]
Profile Joined January 2007
Peru306 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-18 15:29:08
March 17 2007 18:33 GMT
#9
They are not in a discussion.
Actually the only thing that was happening and already calmed down.
Is that they were getting into an agreement.
And now that I remember.
A lot of South Koreans were helding signs saying "We Love E-Sports" in Shinhan Masters.
Which means South Korea as I expected goes for the good manners and in my opinion clever resolution of ideas.
RespectKorea KeSPA 1)SlayerS_`BoxeR`(Legend Of South Korea) 2)AnyTime[gm](Passion Of South Korea) 3)JulyZerg(Sense Of South Korea) 4)iloveoov(Winner Of WCG 2006) 5)XellOs[yG](I Love XellOs Style) http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=49272
Scarlet
Profile Joined March 2007
Korea (South)2 Posts
March 17 2007 21:23 GMT
#10
Kespa want to erase the leagues(I mean, Mbc Game Starleague and OnGame Net starleague) and
take their rights by force.
But, I think they just an idiot(What kind of idiot? sloopy and coward idiot).
Worst of all, Kespa delete these words from their brain : Fan, viewer, audience.

hmm..because I am not a good English speaker, I cannot tell you something I know and see fluently.
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
March 17 2007 23:38 GMT
#11
I have no idea what's going on.
rS.NonY
Profile Joined February 2007
United States286 Posts
March 18 2007 00:47 GMT
#12
I side with KeSPA. OGN/MBC have a good thing going but, as TV broadcasting stations, they are incapable of expanding e-sports properly. The people who run KeSPA are the ones supporting the gamers themselves. They have invested their money into teams of gamers because they believe that their companies will profit from it. Of course they want e-sports to succeed more than anyone, since for them it means big money. OGN/MBC want the status quo to continue because it has brought them success, but keeping the status quo means a limit on growth. That's fine with OGN/MBC, and it's fine with the fans, since they're all satisfied right now. But investors, who are the people making shit happen, are not fine with keeping things the same. It's all about growth.

From a business perspective, it seems OGN/MBC are getting fucked. Don't feel bad for them and support them. Rather, if you really wanted the status quo to continue, you should scold OGN/MBC for not having better business capabilities because they fucked it up. As far as I can tell, KeSPA especially, as well as IEG, have "won" the business side of things and will thus get to push their agenda. As I said in my first paragraph, I like their agenda better, and I'm glad that they knew how to get it rolling.
lamarine
Profile Joined January 2003
587 Posts
March 18 2007 02:13 GMT
#13
totally agry with NonY
So... BW is back
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-18 02:25:03
March 18 2007 02:24 GMT
#14
¯|(°_o)/¯
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KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
March 18 2007 02:35 GMT
#15
On March 18 2007 11:24 oneofthem wrote:
¯|(°_o)/¯


Haha. That made me lol for some reason.

As for whos side I am on, I just want this sorted out ASAP.
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Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
March 18 2007 02:59 GMT
#16
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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
March 18 2007 03:25 GMT
#17
I'm on KeSPA's side but I really think they should've talked it out with OGN & MBC Game before taking such radical action as involving IEG. But OGN & MBC Game's actions so far have been nothing but childish, so KeSPA might have been forced to sell it to IEG to get some reaction from OGN & MBC Game.

I'm sure nobody's ever thought that pro gaming can come to an end because of this.
Official Entusman #21
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
March 18 2007 03:38 GMT
#18
ma and pa
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
March 18 2007 03:50 GMT
#19
I don't know whats going on, I just hope it gets resolved and starcraft continues to be played on TV.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
March 18 2007 04:28 GMT
#20
On March 18 2007 12:50 CharlieMurphy wrote:
I don't know whats going on, I just hope it gets resolved and starcraft continues to be played on TV.
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