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TLnet Poll - SKT1s limit on individual league participatio…

SKT1s limit on individual league participation is :

... bad. This could start a dangerous trend. (346)39%
... bad. They are pros! They should practice! (179)20%
... good. Progamers are overworked these days. (152)17%
... bad. This is a cheap shot to the MSL. (91)10%
... good. The team will have more success. (59)7%
... good. The proleague should be the main focus. (57)6%

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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27156 Posts
November 13 2006 18:53 GMT
#1
To view the news and discussion, check out the original thread in the Recommended threads section here. Posted by Honestea.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 13 2006 19:31 GMT
#2
... bad. This could start a dangerous trend.

imagine pros chosing 'SL's based on the players attending...
Hey, saviors playing in MSL soooo im going to play OSL

imagine fans watching the games on tv, unable to watch their favourite gamer outside of PL because they cant get MBC Game or Ongamenet in their area

imagine what teams that are sponsered by tv companies will do...
MBC Hero -> only OSL, OGN Sparkyz -> only MSL
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43360 Posts
November 13 2006 19:45 GMT
#3
They could just practice for OSL and play in MSL as well. Or visa versa. Sure, you won't be absolutely perfect on the maps so a timing based build might not work. But they're pros, if they practice hard for OSL it's hardly going to make them worse in MSL.
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Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
November 13 2006 20:17 GMT
#4
Bad Of Course..
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-13 21:32:31
November 13 2006 21:32 GMT
#5
Bad, it would really suck to have two seperate 'leagues' with every player either in OSL or MSL, without any mix. Imagine nada being on one side continuously, and ipx on the other!
SCNewb
Profile Joined June 2006
Canada2210 Posts
November 13 2006 22:01 GMT
#6
Voted for bad. If other teams start doing this it could be chaos. Also, if a player chose one league and didn't make it past the qualification rounds he'd be out of both leagues. For example, Oov chose OSL, but if someone beats him in the qualification rounds he'll be screwed over. Lastly, I think that players will have even a higher pressure to do better.
Huge iloveOov fan
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
November 13 2006 22:50 GMT
#7
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wXs.Havok
Profile Joined October 2006
Argentina529 Posts
November 13 2006 22:52 GMT
#8
they are overworked man

all time practicing

come on! they need a life

they have the right to have free time
Read this and you`re gay
Red_Dragon
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Croatia2862 Posts
November 13 2006 23:05 GMT
#9
IMO KeSpa should get involved in this "incident". They should also define rules for this kind of situations. I mean coach shouldn`t be able to order a player you have to choose between leagues. It is totally disrespectful toward MSL starleague in this case. Other teams have tight schedule too. Most likely other teams will not fallow this example.
Climbing walls of an endless circle
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
November 13 2006 23:14 GMT
#10
I think it's stupid. They're overestimating the "practice" issue. Let those who cant qualify for the big leagues take care of the 2v2 that particular season, instead of using players who are involved in both individual leagues spend time to practice 2v2. The maps are the same in proleague for 1v1 as in the individual leagues, so this isnt really a problem.

A desperate way to clung on to the sponsors imo. Basically they're saying to everyone sponsors included "We only did bad in PL because we had players in two individual leagues, not because our players performed bad/arent as good as previously assumed"

Also it sucks not being able to get starstudded leagues in both MSL and OSL.
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
November 14 2006 00:08 GMT
#11
Hmm... I think it would be a good trend as it gives progamers more free time to relax and have a life. However, I don't think it's a good decision if ONLY SKT1 do such a thing. It just isn't fair.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
November 14 2006 00:40 GMT
#12
On November 14 2006 07:52 wXs.Havok wrote:
they are overworked man

all time practicing

come on! they need a life

they have the right to have free time

They chose for this life themselves, so they have to work for it. Just like lawyers have to work up to 12 hours a day, it's their job, their life, and their payment and they chose for it themselves.
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
November 14 2006 01:40 GMT
#13
Bad.

They're trying to blame distraction when the issue is obviously something else, like coaching, or the house atmosphere. The better run teams have, in truth, been better run for a loooooong time now.

Seems like SKT1 management is getting frustrated and is on a witch hunt to place blame. Not a good sign.
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
November 14 2006 01:56 GMT
#14
I think it's better if we discuss it in only one place:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=46334
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-14 04:06:58
November 14 2006 04:06 GMT
#15
They're just scared fo Savior in the MSL really...
You have to protect something's reputation like the terran dynasty..
So they use a genius ghost card and dodge. How pro.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
GaG[SharKy]
Profile Joined November 2006
New Zealand221 Posts
November 14 2006 05:20 GMT
#16
i think they are overworked... but then again, they get paid to play and quite abit too.. so..hmm not sure
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
November 14 2006 06:10 GMT
#17
i think their overworked but it should be their choice not the teams
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lawl mart v2.0
Profile Joined November 2006
United States108 Posts
November 14 2006 07:17 GMT
#18
On November 14 2006 15:10 a-game wrote:
i think their overworked but it should be their choice not the teams

agreed

the coaches shouldnt be the ones to determine who/where they play
proleague is proleague, but the individual leagues are for individuals, not for other people to make the choice for you

i hope i didnt read something wronge and sound like a jackass lol
closed thread forum, where the cool kids hang out
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
November 14 2006 14:41 GMT
#19
lmao this sucks.

They're just trying to find something to blame after failing horribly in proleauge.

I'd want to see any individual sport-star going "I'm only going to participate in this one leauge" pfft..
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
November 15 2006 00:16 GMT
#20
Map practice does make a big difference.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
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