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lungalung
Profile Joined March 2011
United States19 Posts
October 15 2017 02:37 GMT
#1501
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Not a big fan of the Dota 2 wiki listing DPC points earned per PLAYER alongside tournament prize money earned per TEAM, seems like a big inconsistency (e.g. it should be 30k and 90 points or 10k and 30 points for third/fourth place).
rapture
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany645 Posts
October 15 2017 13:38 GMT
#1502
Teams don't earn any points. We can just remove it if you think that's better? But i don't think having two tables is a good idea.
Clubfan
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Germany913 Posts
October 15 2017 19:00 GMT
#1503
I'd keep the current solution and add "per player" to the tooltip of the points column header.
LiquipediaLickyPiddy manager
canetoado1
Profile Joined October 2017
3 Posts
November 04 2017 06:27 GMT
#1504
I just want to say, having such a long period before changes are approved really discourages people from contributing. I mean, look at this:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Special:PendingChanges

More than 1 month later and changes aren't even in. Meanwhile, there is history being made in tournaments every other week...
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3356 Posts
November 05 2017 15:51 GMT
#1505
...thanks for the feedback canetoado1, taking a look into it...
ModeratorSC2 LP Admin - My Life for Aiur - Let the Metal flow - @Cynical_Death
RadgeRayden
Profile Joined September 2017
20 Posts
November 07 2017 21:49 GMT
#1506
Hi, you seem to have a memory leak going on with the website. If I leave a wiki page open overnight it'll consume around 1.5gb of RAM and I'll have to kill it to use the computer. I'm on Opera (Windows 10).
canetoado1
Profile Joined October 2017
3 Posts
November 13 2017 11:59 GMT
#1507
@CynicalDeath -- good work! Sorry if my initial post sounded aggressive, just trying to help is all!
SunnyChoppers
Profile Joined November 2017
1 Post
November 15 2017 00:55 GMT
#1508
Hi
Recently I made a Liquid account so I too can also edit/update Liquipedia's CSGO section when need be, and I have a few things to bring up. I wanted to update Team Liquid's CSGO page since nitr0 has been IGL for Liquid since Mykonos. On the banner on the right side of the page, it still listed stanislaw (at the time) as team captain despite on the player list the blue crown indicating captain/IGL to be nitr0. I proceeded to update the page to make the change, and an admin declined the change despite nitr0 being the IGL for over two months now. Secondly, for IEM Oakland going on currently, I was going through the info for the matches the night before, and when clicking on the "i" button for the HLTV match page for Team Liquid and Faze, it directed me to Renegades and Gambit's match. I know it is easy to oversight something like this, but I feel like the admins could do a little better in terms of making sure we have the right info posted on tournament pages, team pages, player pages etc so that people who go to Liquipedia on the daily basis can know that we do an excellent job making sure that we update the sight with the correct and factual information. I have nothing against Liquipedia; I believe this is one of the best esports sites on the web, but there is nothing wrong with stepping up some to make sure we have the correct and factual info on Liquipedia.

Thanks.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19033 Posts
November 15 2017 23:57 GMT
#1509
The admins don't generally deal directly with revisions and moderating content (there's thousands of pages and only a handful of admins). Your edit to the TL page, specifically, was rejected because you made it without providing any source for it, and those edits are almost always rejected. If you resubmit the edit with a link to someone on the team talking about the change, or an article announcing it or something like that, it will be approved.
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FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4932 Posts
November 16 2017 00:26 GMT
#1510
captain is not equal to IGL in CS, so that's also a thing.
Administrator@FO_nTTaX | FO-nTTaX.de | 0xff0000.dev | Senior Lead Liquipedia Developer
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razarza
Profile Joined June 2016
Australia21 Posts
November 22 2017 07:37 GMT
#1511
On November 15 2017 09:55 SunnyChoppers wrote:
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Hi
Recently I made a Liquid account so I too can also edit/update Liquipedia's CSGO section when need be, and I have a few things to bring up. I wanted to update Team Liquid's CSGO page since nitr0 has been IGL for Liquid since Mykonos. On the banner on the right side of the page, it still listed stanislaw (at the time) as team captain despite on the player list the blue crown indicating captain/IGL to be nitr0. I proceeded to update the page to make the change, and an admin declined the change despite nitr0 being the IGL for over two months now. Secondly, for IEM Oakland going on currently, I was going through the info for the matches the night before, and when clicking on the "i" button for the HLTV match page for Team Liquid and Faze, it directed me to Renegades and Gambit's match. I know it is easy to oversight something like this, but I feel like the admins could do a little better in terms of making sure we have the right info posted on tournament pages, team pages, player pages etc so that people who go to Liquipedia on the daily basis can know that we do an excellent job making sure that we update the sight with the correct and factual information. I have nothing against Liquipedia; I believe this is one of the best esports sites on the web, but there is nothing wrong with stepping up some to make sure we have the correct and factual info on Liquipedia.

Thanks.



Copy of my Discord message:

I would also hope that you can understand that mistakes can occasionally happen such as the wrong HLTV page being linked when there are thousands of edits made every month to the CS wiki, you can see some editor stats here http://wiki.teamliquid.net/statistics/?view=activeusers&wikis[]=counterstrike
Also with high traffiic pages such as a live premier tournament there will always be a couple people trying to update the page as fast (sometimes too fast) as possible and like tofucake says, admins are not checking over every single edit.
The basic hierarchy of users goes like this:
User - can make edits, need to be approved (you)
Editor - can approve edits and move pages (users with automatically checked edits) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/counterstrike/index.php?title=Intel_Extreme_Masters/Season_XII/Oakland&action=history
Admin - (liquipedia staff such as myself or shen)^
Liquipedia
Qazior
Profile Joined October 2015
Finland2 Posts
November 25 2017 08:14 GMT
#1512
Hi! Front page of a wiki has match feed that has several links to playing teams and the tournament etc. What if there was also a direct link to the current phase of the said tournament? E.g. clicking on the score or something takes you straight to the page#groupstage or page#playoffs.

This idea came to my mind because there are often tournaments with lots of info such as talent lists first in the tournament pages that I have already scrolled over 50 times when I rather just go check the bracket. Now that I think of it, maybe I could get used to the content space on the left

Anyway, what do people think about this? Is it too redundant?
Clubfan
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Germany913 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-25 09:05:46
November 25 2017 09:05 GMT
#1513
I think it is a good idea, but technically difficult (to say the least). As far as I know, there is currently no way to automatically determine the surrounding section for a piece of wikicode.
A possible option is adding a {{#vardefine:current_stage|CURRENT_STAGE}} before each stage, but that seems to be a lot of work. Alternatively, one might do something similar automatically with an extension for MediaWiki, but that seems to be a lot of work. If someone has a simpler/better idea for how to make it work, feel free to suggest it.
LiquipediaLickyPiddy manager
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2141 Posts
November 27 2017 10:34 GMT
#1514
now that wol and hots ladders don't exist, is there even a point any more to keeping 3 separate pages for each unit?
vibeo gane,
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4932 Posts
November 27 2017 12:14 GMT
#1515
As a historical reference probably yes, but the LotV one could be the default one
Administrator@FO_nTTaX | FO-nTTaX.de | 0xff0000.dev | Senior Lead Liquipedia Developer
"Nimm es. Es ist nicht viel, aber es kommt von Herzen. Vergiss mich nicht!"
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-29 13:29:11
November 29 2017 13:29 GMT
#1516
On November 27 2017 21:14 FO-nTTaX wrote:
As a historical reference probably yes, but the LotV one could should be the default one

FTFY
Administrator"Ambitious but rubbish!" - Jeremy Clarkson
DeadAntelope
Profile Joined November 2015
4 Posts
November 30 2017 15:23 GMT
#1517
Is it possible to add 'Attendance/Audience' size to a tournament's sidebar? E.g. underneath the stadium/location the event was held in you would see a number for how many fans went to the event.
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
November 30 2017 16:06 GMT
#1518
That is fairly easy to add yes, but do we have those numbers?
Administrator"Ambitious but rubbish!" - Jeremy Clarkson
DeadAntelope
Profile Joined November 2015
4 Posts
December 01 2017 11:28 GMT
#1519
On December 01 2017 01:06 salle wrote:
That is fairly easy to add yes, but do we have those numbers?


I've noticed events usually tweet out how many tickets they sold, or put together a press release after with how much engagement they had e.g. attendance, peak stream viewers etc. Would involve digging around but I think it would be cool to see how tournaments and attendance grew over the years.
Seldon_
Profile Joined December 2017
2 Posts
December 01 2017 16:58 GMT
#1520
Hello, may be better hide match result (for example dota main page). When i entering to check schedule i see all results of already finished matches. It's not good, some time i want to watch the match record if i was busy. Add button show result and everyone can decide what they want.
Also you can implement settings show/don't show results
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