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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
October 28 2014 21:56 GMT
#1
I feel like we need a new thread on the issue so as to not have a circular argument at the end of a 1000+ page thread. Discussing the imminent closure of the thread, possible alternatives, and so other admins could come forward and offer their input on the matter as well.

So to start, could I ask why we won't allow the thread to continue into Day 1 with a mod note announcing the stricter moderation and the links to the important posts in the OP more or less the same as any other LR thread? In the end it doesn't make much difference between 100 pages of spam and 1000.

Also, can we get a slightly more detailed account of how the mods reached the decision to close the thread and the interim between that decision and Zealously's announcement?
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 28 2014 22:01 GMT
#2
Thread sucks, should have been closed after the first day of 125+ pages of spam. Either that or all the offenders warned/banned to discourage it. My only criticism is the staff waited too long to make a decision.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 28 2014 22:02 GMT
#3
The thread should have been shut down right away if it was gonna be shut down at all. And if the off-topicness was the issue, that could easily have been taken care of with some warnings.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 28 2014 22:14 GMT
#4
Figured I might put this post here for reference:

On October 29 2014 05:49 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2014 05:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 29 2014 05:34 Zealously wrote:
On October 29 2014 05:32 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 29 2014 05:30 Zealously wrote:
On October 29 2014 05:26 Silvana wrote:
Yeah I think a mod note on top would suffice... This thread has nothing wrong or different compared to other LR threads (besides the size and passhun) so why discard it for a new one? Correct me if I'm wrong but it's not like it's violating the rules right?

Edit: oh well I realize we got some leeway regarding the posting rules but still I think it's pretty epic to keep it as the official LR thread


If this were literally any other LR thread on TL, people would have been warned and banned for quintuple posting and making zero-content posts around page 50. I know this thread is all in good fun, but this really isn't a standard LR thread by any stretch of the imagination.

On October 29 2014 05:24 Aeromi wrote:
You can't deny that there is a lot of shitpost/poor posts in this thread.


You mean like every LR thread?


Blizzcon isn't a normal tournament. And it will normalize when the event actually starts, so I don't see any problem


The fact that Blizzcon isn't a normal tournament is why this thread was allowed to run essentially without rules in the first place. Keeping it as is, to say the least, is impractical.


I understand, but I still say this should remain as the one true thread. It was started early with the intention of pre-hyping Blizzcon to the max, and it's not our fault rules weren't enforced here while we did just that


Rules weren't enforced because we know the LR regulars enjoy tangentially related off-topic discussions and everything that goes with it. I think you're being unfair in saying that "it's not our fault rules weren't enforced". No, obviously we're responsible for enforcing rules and could have dropped the hammer on people making eleven posts in a row of filling entire pages with posts no longer than 8 characters. We figured there was no harm in letting things run like this for a while before the biggest tournament of the year, but the majority of staff members agree that this thread isn't practical for the actual purpose of being an LR thread dedicated to the tournament itself.

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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
October 29 2014 00:38 GMT
#5
I stopped really caring about the moderation in that thread when deliberately no action was taken on a quintuple-post. While it is reasonable to have a hype/discussion thread beforehand, I do think that the normal rules should have been enforced. I did contribute a lot to this problem, by posting a ton, making the thread early, and giving die4ever the means to run his passion board (which was way over the top, in retrospect). However, even though it's a special thread, there should never be 6-10 people constantly in a tournament thread posting simply for the sake of posting.

...yeah, I'm a hypocrite for saying that. Oh well
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
October 29 2014 01:32 GMT
#6
What about the other idea that opterown initially had? Remaking that into a (again, more strictly moderated) general hype thread?

Besides, it hasn't devolved into complete chaos. The memories of the Ukraine thread still makes me laugh my ass off.
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-29 01:48:44
October 29 2014 01:46 GMT
#7
On October 29 2014 07:01 Dodgin wrote:
Thread sucks, should have been closed after the first day of 125+ pages of spam. Either that or all the offenders warned/banned to discourage it. My only criticism is the staff waited too long to make a decision.

I want to strongly second this. That the thread was made early was fine, that it turned into 1000 pages of people just chatting about whatever is not. I feel that this is supposed to be a forum, not a chat room to talk about how passionate we are. It also indirectly discourages new people from participating, because they see 1000 pages of talking and don't want to read through them.
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17744 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-29 01:56:57
October 29 2014 01:51 GMT
#8
Is the thread really that different from last year's?
Let's just look at some random pages...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/434069-wcs-global-finals-2013-day-1?page=100
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/434069-wcs-global-finals-2013-day-1?page=95
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/434069-wcs-global-finals-2013-day-1?page=400
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/434069-wcs-global-finals-2013-day-1?page=114

I agree with Sentinel, there should be a mod note at the top to say moderation is going to be normal strictness again, and all is good.
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
October 29 2014 02:42 GMT
#9
On October 29 2014 10:51 Die4Ever wrote:
Is the thread really that different from last year's?
Let's just look at some random pages...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/434069-wcs-global-finals-2013-day-1?page=100
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/434069-wcs-global-finals-2013-day-1?page=95
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/434069-wcs-global-finals-2013-day-1?page=400
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/434069-wcs-global-finals-2013-day-1?page=114

I agree with Sentinel, there should be a mod note at the top to say moderation is going to be normal strictness again, and all is good.


I agree with this too. I don't see why a thread of 1000 pages would discourage casuals and new people to participate, not that they're going to read the 20k posts in them after all
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 29 2014 05:48 GMT
#10
On October 29 2014 11:42 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2014 10:51 Die4Ever wrote:
Is the thread really that different from last year's?
Let's just look at some random pages...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/434069-wcs-global-finals-2013-day-1?page=100
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/434069-wcs-global-finals-2013-day-1?page=95
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/434069-wcs-global-finals-2013-day-1?page=400
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/434069-wcs-global-finals-2013-day-1?page=114

I agree with Sentinel, there should be a mod note at the top to say moderation is going to be normal strictness again, and all is good.


I agree with this too. I don't see why a thread of 1000 pages would discourage casuals and new people to participate, not that they're going to read the 20k posts in them after all

I agree too. 10, 100 or 1K pages won't make a difference in the eyes of the poster that joins the thread a few hours before the event begins because he won't read them anyway. And yes there was a ton of shitposting in this thread, but there was also actual hype content created.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
October 29 2014 06:02 GMT
#11
agreed, whilst i did spam quite a bit, there was a lot of truly quality posts and pictures, its unfair to do away with it all i think...
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-29 07:01:46
October 29 2014 07:01 GMT
#12
Why it isnt practical?

Just mod note when tournament finaly starts and everything is fine.
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Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-29 11:13:28
October 29 2014 08:49 GMT
#13
Just have to say that I think the mod note would be enough. Saying that it's impractical or that I would discourage new posters to post because of all the spam is really not relevant. The new posters won't bother to read it anyway. As a matter of fact, this very thread inspired me to make a TL account in the first place, It didn't dicourage me in any way. (Although I did spam in it, was warned, stopped - no big deal)
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
October 29 2014 09:36 GMT
#14
On October 29 2014 10:51 Die4Ever wrote:
I agree with Sentinel, there should be a mod note at the top to say moderation is going to be normal strictness again, and all is good.


I think that one knows it went too far when there is a spam leaderboard to encourage more spam, and this regardless of the rules enforcement.
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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
October 29 2014 10:11 GMT
#15
one of the most recent posts...
On October 29 2014 19:05 jarod wrote:
I came here to see 1000. Was not disappointed.

What more reason to keep the original thread open??
(with a mod note - and most of those guilty of breaking rules are aware of the issue anyway)
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-29 11:04:12
October 29 2014 10:23 GMT
#16
It really isn't fair to just close the thread. Some people put a lot of effort into it (templar, die, sgtk, heart, yosu...)
I personally think that just making rules apply with a note is enough. There is no point in making another thread when all of the hype/predictions/power ranks/pics... Are in this one

On October 29 2014 19:58 Dumbledore wrote:
The fan art in this thread is epic


And this
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17744 Posts
October 29 2014 11:45 GMT
#17
On October 29 2014 18:36 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2014 10:51 Die4Ever wrote:
I agree with Sentinel, there should be a mod note at the top to say moderation is going to be normal strictness again, and all is good.


I think that one knows it went too far when there is a spam leaderboard to encourage more spam, and this regardless of the rules enforcement.

actually it specifically tries to filter out spam, promotes more characters for more thought out posts, promotes pictures, and greatly promotes high quality original content whether it be fanfic, hype articles, lyrics, or videos along with highlighting them easily so they get more attention
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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
October 29 2014 13:09 GMT
#18
Related to this situation... what's the policy on re-posting?

For example a power rank or prediction post that's in the current "LR" thread. Would I be allowed to re-post in the new thread?
I really don't just want something that I spent hours working on being just linked to...
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 29 2014 13:15 GMT
#19
On October 29 2014 22:09 y0su wrote:
Related to this situation... what's the policy on re-posting?

For example a power rank or prediction post that's in the current "LR" thread. Would I be allowed to re-post in the new thread?
I really don't just want something that I spent hours working on being just linked to...

Same question
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-29 14:24:30
October 29 2014 14:21 GMT
#20
So, do we get answers from admins/mods to these questions?
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