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BadWolf0
Profile Joined September 2010
United States300 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 19:36:33
August 13 2011 02:34 GMT
#1
Why was Megumix un-featured? It is true that she doesn't have much in the way of tournament victories, and she herself has said that she is not at the same level of players who play professionally. However, she makes up for that in quality viewer interaction and genuine skill. She is definitely a source of quality advice who regularly streams and has consistent high viewer counts. Viewer counts based on watching her play too not drama. I feel at the very least more then a one line explanation should be given as she apparently was good enough at one point to be featured.

edit: explained thank you.
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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
August 13 2011 08:18 GMT
#2
Every single streamer's fanbase/viewers wants their player to be featured. In general everyone should stop always asking "Why is X not featured omg!?!" and just let TL Staff decide for themselves, or else we would end up with 50 featured streams

all the qualities that you mention(all very good stuff if i may add) could be said by ALOT of streamers. A fanbase should not dictate who get's featured.

+ reading that she has around 1500 viewers normally would indicate that she wouldn't even need it(most featured never even reach those numbers in the first place)
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ObGPatton
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3 Posts
August 13 2011 08:31 GMT
#3

Why megumixbear should be featured?

TeamLiquid hosts streams of the most respected SC2 pro gamers in the world, however simply watching some of these streams can become repetitive and boring. Megumixbear brings something different to the table, sure she isn't GM and she may never be. She is still better than 90% of the audience that watches her. Too many streams feature nothing more than a great player laddering and terrible music in the background. With megumixbear you get great commentary and interesting gameplay. With constant features of pro games such as ROOTDestiny, SixjaxDDE and others coaching during gameplay I would say that there is no other stream where the average player can learn more in a few hours of watching. I would challenge anyone at TL to site a specific reason as to why she is now un-featured, while so many others who are featured bring nothing unique to the table. While she should be featured based on sheer volume of interest, more importantly she should be featured for adding to the community of SC2. I've said my peace..... hopefully someone of influence will read this board and realize the error made and correct it, however if not megumixbear will continue to be a highly viewed stream.

PS I am a little drunk and if there are some grammatical errors please forgive
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BadWolf0
Profile Joined September 2010
United States300 Posts
August 13 2011 08:42 GMT
#4
Correct me (and close this) if I'm wrong, but she was featured. They un-featured her with the one line explanation I put above. I wouldn't have opened a thread campaigning for her, but I thought with unfeaturing her it was at least fair, as one of her fans, to ask for more of an explanation. I'm not trying to start drama and don't plan on a huge argument but she was featured previously and was pretty upset over her changed status and she is definitely a quality stream for various reasons.
All hail the Queen!!!
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
August 13 2011 08:48 GMT
#5
On August 13 2011 17:42 BadWolf0 wrote:
Correct me (and close this) if I'm wrong, but she was featured. They un-featured her with the one line explanation I put above. I wouldn't have opened a thread campaigning for her, but I thought with unfeaturing her it was at least fair, as one of her fans, to ask for more of an explanation. I'm not trying to start drama and don't plan on a huge argument but she was featured previously and was pretty upset over her changed status and she is definitely a quality stream for various reasons.


In no way did i see this as you trying to make any sort of drama, and website feedback is the totally correct place to post this, so don't get me wrong. My point was more general about "wating X to be featured" than about her, she is just the most recent excample. It's just a returning "discussion" about who deserves what for whatever reason, and therefore i feel that it should 100% be something the Staff decides. Regarding a explanation i'm sure the person(s) who decide to unfeature her will post here when they see it
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echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 09:07:00
August 13 2011 09:06 GMT
#6
My guess would that she was de-featured due to how she got featured in the first place. (Pure speculation incoming)

I get the feeling that TeamLiquid is going through a professionalization phase, and trying to make things more professional. They've made the rules more strict with the launch of SC2, back in Brood War, posting rules were much more relaxed and what not. I can't find it now, but there was a thread where Artosis complained about the balance of Brood War maps, and iNcontroL literally posted 4 responses ALL in caps, while Machine did nothing but post image memes calling the thread/Artosis stupid.

Actually here it is: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=70545

Also, Megumi isn't the first person to be unfeatured, Boesthius (long time TL banling) has been unfeatured, I get the feeling it had to do with how they got featured in the first place. Were they featured because they deserved to be featured, or were they featured because they knew someone who got them featured. (Not saying that they did something underhanded or bad, or bribed their way into featured status). I get the feeling that TL is ensuring that everyone who is featured earned/deserve their featured status and de-featuring those who didn't go about getting featured the way everyone else does.

Again, just a guess, I could be totally wrong with my guess, but I feel that may be the best guess at the moment, because she is one of those featured streamers that does have a consistent viewerbase and what not.

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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-13 09:11:26
August 13 2011 09:09 GMT
#7
Currently featuring standards are being re-evaluated, so you can expect some info on the whole featuring matter soon I guess.
Soon being an unidentified date in the future, but sooner than Blizzard soon(tm).
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51497 Posts
August 13 2011 10:37 GMT
#8
On August 13 2011 18:09 Carnac wrote:
Currently featuring standards are being re-evaluated, so you can expect some info on the whole featuring matter soon I guess.
Soon being an unidentified date in the future, but sooner than Blizzard soon(tm).


sooner than it took duke nukem forever to be released, we can guarantee that.
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echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
August 13 2011 10:44 GMT
#9
On August 13 2011 19:37 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 18:09 Carnac wrote:
Currently featuring standards are being re-evaluated, so you can expect some info on the whole featuring matter soon I guess.
Soon being an unidentified date in the future, but sooner than Blizzard soon(tm).


sooner than it took duke nukem forever to be released, we can guarantee that.

Ha!

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Ghier
Profile Joined June 2010
99 Posts
August 13 2011 18:35 GMT
#10
On August 13 2011 18:09 Carnac wrote:
Currently featuring standards are being re-evaluated, so you can expect some info on the whole featuring matter soon I guess.
Soon being an unidentified date in the future, but sooner than Blizzard soon(tm).


So Megumi doesnt meet undetermined standards that could remain undetermined for the next 10 years. It all makes sense now.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
August 13 2011 19:31 GMT
#11
On August 13 2011 18:09 Carnac wrote:
Currently featuring standards are being re-evaluated, so you can expect some info on the whole featuring matter soon I guess.
Soon being an unidentified date in the future, but sooner than Blizzard soon(tm).


yay this is great news!
BadWolf0
Profile Joined September 2010
United States300 Posts
August 13 2011 19:36 GMT
#12
Fair enough. That's pretty much exactly what i was wondering it seemed random as hell and taken by itself kind of odd. Thx.
All hail the Queen!!!
Ghier
Profile Joined June 2010
99 Posts
August 13 2011 19:55 GMT
#13
Im confused... did Megumi lose featured as a result of the re-evaluation or are they re-evaluating the standards that caused her to lose featured?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
August 14 2011 01:09 GMT
#14
Neither.

From what I understand, they've basically removed every stream that isn't at least grand masters or isn't SC2 (regardless of player ability in non-SC2 games).

They're also re-evaluating the criteria for featured independent of that.

My 2c: Make being featured contingent on being a decent member of TL above all else.
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emesen
Profile Joined October 2010
United States256 Posts
August 14 2011 16:51 GMT
#15
On August 14 2011 10:09 Craton wrote:
From what I understand, they've basically removed every stream that isn't at least grand masters or isn't SC2 (regardless of player ability in non-SC2 games).


that doesnt explain sketchpad.tv

im not campaigning one way or the other for megumi... she's developed enough of a fanbase to maintain her viewership...

I just dont see any consistency with TL moderation when it comes to streams being "featured"
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BadWolf0
Profile Joined September 2010
United States300 Posts
August 14 2011 21:15 GMT
#16
Well they've clearly had different standards for art related streams. As a website they're allowed to promote things that they find awesome. I like the fact that sketchpad and Rune's molding thing are featured its a little ridiculous to compare when there are clearly different guidelines.
All hail the Queen!!!
BLAy
Profile Joined August 2010
5 Posts
August 14 2011 23:04 GMT
#17
it's pretty weak that they unfeatured megumi's stream. she consistently has great content and players on her stream (she's always playing with sixjax and NrG guys). she intetacts with her fans all the time and provides them with a competitive outlet to display their talent (bearcup tourneys). idk it's just evident she puts a lot of work into her stream and I just find it weird they just sent her a one line PM. plus a little diversity in the featured lineup wouldn't be a bad thing. she's a breath of fresh air in the sc2 community and i think TL needs to re-evaluate their re-evaluation.
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
August 15 2011 01:10 GMT
#18
I agree with BadWolf0 on this one, mainly because they do have the sketchpad stream still up and I do enjoy it sometimes I might add but I also like having Megumix up there. She seems like a great person to have in the community and brings something different and having art is awesome and does the same as well but there not even playing SC, its just art from all I have viewed so idk just doesn't seem fair, given her popularity. Just my two cents.
Cassel_Castle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States820 Posts
August 15 2011 03:04 GMT
#19
Maybe have consistently featured streams for super high quality streams, whether it's high quality play or commentary or whatever.

Then have 2 "streams of the week" for popular streams that don't yet meet quality requirements or are under review on whether to become featured.
LittleAtari
Profile Joined August 2010
Jordan1090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 04:51:23
August 15 2011 04:42 GMT
#20
I like megumi, but let's be real and say that there is a lot going on in the featured list and it needs a little more organizing/cleaning up.

Edit: Also let's think. I know that other people are being unfeatured and it has to do with people being featured from the early times when it was a big deal to just to have quality gameplay being streamed. Now that streaming has become the 'thing,' things need to get categorized some and people who were popular when the game first came out, but don't do much now, need to be unfeatured because they may not necessarily be holding the same quality as before. Perhaps even now, there's even high quality content out there and by limiting the featured streamers, it helps put more focus on them.
enCore-
Profile Joined July 2010
98 Posts
August 16 2011 04:41 GMT
#21
On August 13 2011 18:09 Carnac wrote:
Currently featuring standards are being re-evaluated, so you can expect some info on the whole featuring matter soon I guess.
Soon being an unidentified date in the future, but sooner than Blizzard soon(tm).


Shouldn't you have waited with unfeaturing someone until you agreed upon the new standards and then announced them to avoid things like this? That's how I would have done it...
NyxErinyes
Profile Joined July 2010
United States44 Posts
August 16 2011 15:13 GMT
#22
Sad to see Megumi lose her featured spot. I only found her because of that section and she's probably my favorite streamer to watch aside from the Day[9] Daily. She imparts some fun into the game that most players don't because they're too busy being in super-serious-practice-mode.
Nuke 'em till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
August 16 2011 15:35 GMT
#23
On August 16 2011 13:41 enCore- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 18:09 Carnac wrote:
Currently featuring standards are being re-evaluated, so you can expect some info on the whole featuring matter soon I guess.
Soon being an unidentified date in the future, but sooner than Blizzard soon(tm).


Shouldn't you have waited with unfeaturing someone until you agreed upon the new standards and then announced them to avoid things like this? That's how I would have done it...

We have a pretty good idea of where we're going. Closing this for now.
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