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Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Scotland672 Posts
June 10 2011 15:14 GMT
#1
Should there not be some way of stopping EVERY single female-tournament thread in the Sc2Tourneys section (and no doubt the BW section) from turning into a discussion on the merits of whether or not these tournaments are acceptable in general, rather than about the actual specific tournament? Something like one of those white background thread warnings at the top might be in order if these threads are going to actually function.

In the last week, there's been two of these threads hijacked by the same tired old debate that belongs either in a blog or in the Sc2 General or General sections. It pretty much renders any female-only tournament thread useless for the intended purpose, and makes the worst, most drama-ridden LR threads seem like a goldmine of useful information by comparison. What's more, the latest of these threads is in the sponsored links section - they appear to have paid teamliquid for the privilege of hosting the Usual Women-shouild-or-shouldnt-have-tournaments Crudfest. Sigh.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=230697

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=228711
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 10 2011 15:51 GMT
#2
Agreed. This fucking happens in every single topic about female-only interviews or tournaments. It really is getting out of hand and becoming a nuisance.

I'm glad you're speaking out about it.
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Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
June 10 2011 19:16 GMT
#3
It's silly that the discussion always ends up going in that direction, but moderating the issue seems difficult, since it requires a judgment call based on the severity of the potentially offensive comment.

You could warn/ ban users or close threads for gender-inflammatory comments, but I'm not sure this is the best option; this would likely need a mod warning on every female tourney thread, to inform people that the topic cannot be addressed (even in a civil manner).

If someone created a centralized thread (would have to be quite an OP) for the issue, for debate/discussion. Posts on the subject would be able to be directed to this thread, giving moderators a simple/ consistent process, without needing to make a personal judgement call, for punishment of these type of posts in normal tourney threads.

As more of these female exclusive tournaments pop up, this issue will probably get worse before it gets better.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 19:25:01
June 10 2011 19:19 GMT
#4
Holy shit, it is June 10th and this is still happening? I thought TL would've got over that about 3 months ago.

On June 11 2011 04:16 Ichabod wrote:
It's silly that the discussion always ends up going in that direction, but moderating the issue seems difficult, since it requires a judgment call based on the severity of the potentially offensive comment.

You could warn/ ban users or close threads for gender-inflammatory comments, but I'm not sure this is the best option; this would likely need a mod warning on every female tourney thread, to inform people that the topic cannot be addressed (even in a civil manner).

If someone created a centralized thread (would have to be quite an OP) for the issue, for debate/discussion. Posts on the subject would be able to be directed to this thread, giving moderators a simple/ consistent process, without needing to make a personal judgement call, for punishment of these type of posts in normal tourney threads.

As more of these female exclusive tournaments pop up, this issue will probably get worse before it gets better.


I don't think it'd be that difficult to moderate the thread. Warn people who try to bring up the topic in a civil manner, ban those who are just making flame comments. After about 2 or 3 pages of that just throw out temp bans like candy to any of those who try to derail the topic, civil or not. A mod warning at the top of the thread wouldn't be needed because if they cannot see that people are getting warned and banned for something they're about to post, then that is their fault.

I'd rather them not use mod warnings for something so obvious; it makes it seem like TeamLiquid posters have to be babysat through posting rather than using common sense.
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