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Excello.ChOseN
Profile Joined April 2008
United States82 Posts
June 08 2009 20:38 GMT
#1
Just wanted to explain what happened in the ToT vs. eX Ace match for ESI. We were 3-3 going into the finals and we had to play this Ace match. eX put ChOseN, and ToT) put Ret. The map for the match was Byzantium 2. When we went in the game it was myself Ret and Mondragon as observer. I said I was going to play Random vs. Ret because I didn't like my ZvT chances on Byzantium. So we both went Random to play this game. This started a HUGE flame fest from Mondragon and Ret. You can read from the replay how Ret reacted partially. I wish I'd saved some SS's from what Ret said after. However I just wanted to show the community what ToT) can be like from a players view point. I've been banned from op tot) and I'm continaully flamed by a few players. Not here to post blame, just to show you the inside workings of some ToT)

Replay : http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=14418

P.S. Can't wait to be flamed by ToT) fans! At least make it creative.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
June 08 2009 20:43 GMT
#2
Sorry but this 'move' is idiotic and i would appreciate an admin banning you for it.

What do you want to achieve with it ?

Troll..
hatred outlives the hateful
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 20:46:22
June 08 2009 20:45 GMT
#3
what is the point of showing this


actually dled it since it sounded interesting lol
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
June 08 2009 20:46 GMT
#4
hes simply showing theres 2 sides to every story.. whats wrong with that?
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 20:55:40
June 08 2009 20:47 GMT
#5
I regret nothing of what I said to you. You are a backstabbing piece of shit. You pretend to be someone's friend for a year and then you pull shit like that in some clanwar, when you are playing a 'friend'.

This type of crap, is what takes the competive part and skill part of SC, and just flushes it down the toilet. it turns this game into a luck game, with no skill involved what so-ever. That imo, is about the lamest thing you can do. It has nothing to do with the game that I love so much, It's like playing a coin-flip. What's the point of practising if some no skill douchebag can just throw you into a situation where SC skill has nothing to do with the result of a game?
I'm sure you know that I am better than you at every single race, and would even have a good shot at beating you PvZ ( your best m/u, my worst race). But those are no guarantees as shown in the rep. That makes SC a shit game.
Like I told you before, I have no issues losing to 5 pool. 9 pool. Mass lings, every possible cheese you can think of and it would be fine with it. Because it would be my fault for not scouting and playing properly. But the concept of some gayass random vs random match which could turn out really bad for either one of us, and has no many luck-factors involved is just ridiculous imo, and just about the only thing that can really piss me off this game.

I regret ever playing that game and not just forfeiting as soon as u announced ur gayness.

I really hope you enjoy your build order random vs random luckbox win (1 base vs 12 nexus in pvsp), and this thread!
But I am really really glad that I will never have to deal with you anymore, on my f m or anywhere
else. So I believe I win.

To clarify: the main thing that pissed me off about you doing this is that you had been my friend for such a long time. We played so many games, watched replays, shared advice etc. If some random wanted to do this I wouldn't say a word.. but for a friend to be that gay...just really pissed me off.
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StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 20:53:26
June 08 2009 20:50 GMT
#6
wait... ret got upset because Chosen played random?

Isn't playing random allowed? I'd totally go random if it increases my chances of winning.

Actually, I've been wondering for a long time what ret would do against a race picker like himself or a random race player. I guess this is it!

disclaimer: I'm torn because I'm in eX but also a fan of ret. TT
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 08 2009 20:53 GMT
#7
whats up with all the Bm shit recently

Idras started a trend
(im an idra fan btw)
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 20:56:02
June 08 2009 20:55 GMT
#8
On June 09 2009 05:50 StRyKeR wrote:
wait... ret got upset because Chosen played random?

Isn't playing random allowed? I'd totally go random if it increases my chances of winning.

Actually, I've been wondering for a long time what ret would do against a race picker like himself or a random race player. I guess this is it!

disclaimer: I'm torn because I'm in eX but also a fan of ret. TT


you gotta see things in the context...

would you gay a friend in some game where no money or anything else is on the line?

ex can't even win esi anymore..

why do it?

anyway i won't post here anymore ill just say again i regret not a single world of bm i said to you after being gay'ed by someone who I thought was cool with me. U knew it was gonna piss me off.
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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 20:58:30
June 08 2009 20:55 GMT
#9
its just so childish to think that what happened there is a reason to make a topic for it.

come on .. thats just stupid man..

and i hope a admin removes this because

if everyone makes a topic for a personal problem with a person on the internet this shit is going to fuck everyone and everything up ...

hatred outlives the hateful
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
June 08 2009 20:56 GMT
#10
Is this supposed to be new?

IdrA didn't start anything. He's always been that way.

Here are the facts: ret hates playing against Random and Chosen is using this as flame bait.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
June 08 2009 20:58 GMT
#11
On June 09 2009 05:38 Excello.ChOseN wrote:
. The map for the match was Byzantium 2. When we went in the game it was myself Ret and Mondragon as observer. I said I was going to play Random vs. Ret because I didn't like my ZvT chances on Byzantium.


they should ban you from TL also.

that is as gay as it gets.

if your skill comes from being a retard, go play Combat-EX.
I am not good with quotes
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 08 2009 20:58 GMT
#12
here's my take on the situation. although I can understand Ret's frustration, you have to look at this in the context of what it is: this was a clan war match. it was the ace game, and the winner decided the whole match.

in ANY sport you can think of - a player can and should do whatever necessary short of cheating to get the win. that's just competitive nature and trying to win. friendship has no part in a competitive win/lose situation. as professionals (eX is a sponsored team and ToT is similarly although not in the same sense, but they're professional in my opinion) it should be the duty of the people in the team to be able to separate the competition from the personal relationships.

look at any sport (basketball for example, since I know it best). you have two players who are admittedly really good friends, Kobe Bryant and Ron Artest. in the playoffs, these guys went at each other, elbowing each other, and basically playing really dirty basketball against each other because both were trying to get a competitive advantage. I'm sure none of those elbows or anything impacted or hurt their friendship because it's all just part of the game. you NEED to be able to separate the two.

nobody is disputing the fact that Ret is a better player. Chosen knows Ret is better, which is why he wanted to go random because that would increase his chances of winning; and the main goal is winning. as long as you aren't cheating, the win is the most important thing in a competitive match.

maybe if this was some practice game or fun match, Chosen would have been wrong to do what he did - but in this case he did what could best get him the win. over-reacting just shows a lack of professionalism.

that's just my opinion.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
June 08 2009 20:59 GMT
#13
honestly though, race picking has its advantages but it also has its disadvantages, such as in this case where the opponent is random so you don't KNOW the opponent's race and you can't race pick... I thought all race pickers would understand that and come to terms with this weakness.

ret would have had good chances (2/3) by picking Zerg. He just needs to avoid zvz
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 08 2009 21:00 GMT
#14
This is pretty funny because normally this wouldn't be a big deal but Chosen you decided to go random vs a racepicker which I know from personal experience is one of the most annoying things you can do. I didn't watch the replay but Ret why do you act like Chosen did something illegal or unethical?
MuR)Ernu
Profile Joined September 2008
Finland768 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 21:06:31
June 08 2009 21:00 GMT
#15
choosing random is retarded. Even more so than racepicking, which is beyond retarded as well.

Both are a disgrace to the great gods of starcraft
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 08 2009 21:00 GMT
#16
On June 09 2009 05:55 ret wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 05:50 StRyKeR wrote:
wait... ret got upset because Chosen played random?

Isn't playing random allowed? I'd totally go random if it increases my chances of winning.

Actually, I've been wondering for a long time what ret would do against a race picker like himself or a random race player. I guess this is it!

disclaimer: I'm torn because I'm in eX but also a fan of ret. TT


ex can't even win esi anymore..
off.


we're in the playoffs... we can win still? we probably won't, but we have a chance.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 08 2009 21:01 GMT
#17
On June 09 2009 05:55 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
its just so childish to think that what happened there is a reason to make a topic for it.

come on .. thats just stupid man..

and i hope a admin removes this because

if everyone makes a topic for a personal problem with a person on the internet this shit is going to fuck everyone and everything up ...



this is related to brood war. this is a brood war discussion forum. what's wrong with it? it's going to generate a nice discussion, so why not?
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
June 08 2009 21:01 GMT
#18
Drama is always good~
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
June 08 2009 21:02 GMT
#19
a racepicker raging to this extent over random is pretty pot/kettle. Calling someone a faggot going on like that is more than Idra has ever done, especially proclaiming your friendship over because he chose random. Jesus, grow up.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 08 2009 21:02 GMT
#20
On June 09 2009 05:55 ret wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 05:50 StRyKeR wrote:
wait... ret got upset because Chosen played random?

Isn't playing random allowed? I'd totally go random if it increases my chances of winning.

Actually, I've been wondering for a long time what ret would do against a race picker like himself or a random race player. I guess this is it!

disclaimer: I'm torn because I'm in eX but also a fan of ret. TT


you gotta see things in the context...

would you gay a friend in some game where no money or anything else is on the line?

ex can't even win esi anymore..

why do it?

anyway i won't post here anymore ill just say again i regret not a single world of bm i said to you after being gay'ed by someone who I thought was cool with me. U knew it was gonna piss me off.


Oh ok so because he was your "friend" he should not try to do his best to win an ace match in a clan war?
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