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Okay, this is preliminary clue searching. The first thing I did was read into Erlend Loe. So he is an author from Norway that writes novels and childrens book that have a style that is characterized as naive.
There are three players from Norway in this game. Softer, Teks, and knutti.
IF there is a mafia among the three, I feel it is teks>knutti>softer. Teks as he got a cartoon picture that would fit in a children's book, and then knutti who pyrr has absolutely nothing else to go on other than being from norway and being knutti?
Too early to tell, but that's my 5 cent for now.
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Alright, I am throwing my hat into the ring to be sheriff.
Here are the qualities that I bring.
1. Veteranship: I have played in a few mafia games and observed and analysed from the rest with which I was not a part of. I will bring that experience into crushing mafia skulls.
2. Gamesense: Just like Aces....or close....:D... Seeing is believing when I use the bully pulpit to smash mafia ploys of deceit, vote trains, and bandwagon leading.
3. Activity: I will not rest from the break of dawn to midnight until all mafia is steamrolled to the grave. That means, constant vigilence of posts and mafia vote trains, then gouging their eyes out.
4. Detective Skills: I will use my honed detective skills to find those rotten eggs in the box, and then cracking it.
5. Open government: Quick response to any inquries, and will do what i can to direct good plans of action.
6. Equality: This will be a town that will not tolerate racism, every person of every colour should feel they have the ability to get ahead as long as they work hard.... + Show Spoiler +
I will use the first vote to lynch inactive, of course one that has clues that could be logical gets priority, unless clue analysis is unusually strong for day 1.
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Edit to previous post It should read Equality: This will be a town that will not tolerate racism, every person of every colour should feel they have the ability to get ahead as long as they work hard.... + Show Spoiler +
Did not mean to be racist, sorry.
Foolishness: That is true. There shouldn't be an iron rule that only inactives are going to be lynched or else all the mafia is just going to post something useless or echo off of each other and get out of that list. Lynching suspicious ones could theoretically be better, but behavioural analysis can also be inaccurate on the first day, and clues could be red herrings...
So the best thing if you are townie is to post something that is thought out and useful, but post!
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On May 19 2009 00:31 BWdero wrote:That would be Black Bolt, King of the Inhumans. @chaoser Even if we do lynch an inactive blue we don't really hurt the town because they were inactive anyways. I support killing off an inactive. But only if no major suspects come up. Seeing how this is only the first day I seriously doubt any suspects will come up. Seeing as how day 1 clue analysis is rubbish and only an idiot mafia would betray himself so early.
In the parking lot, LTT, the love child of the late L and Samsung Khan's captain, read an Erlend Loe novel in his Audi sports car. Without warning, his + Show Spoiler +windshield shattered and a wave of glass ripped through LTT's face. Passing out from blood loss, LTT's head slumped, + Show Spoiler +sounding a horn that would not be heard in time .
Hi, I guess the Black bolt can do that no. Make a sound that would rip the glass.
For Ilovektf, I am not convinced yet teks. Poor flash, well he wasn't really slumping that hard + Show Spoiler +especially prior to yesterday night's games. . But potentially nice find anyways.
Yes, I would want more members to throw their hat into their ring.
Shikyo your campaign platform showed that you are organized and thoughtful, and I like your logic that I get from your writing. Some obvious stuff, but your incarnation policy is solid, and I would implement that if elected.
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On May 19 2009 04:37 Shikyo wrote:
JeeJee's platform is based mostly on "I'm experienced"... which still is better than the other candidates', I guess. Lynching inactives is always good, though. Which brings me to vx70GTOJudgexv.
I disagree. To be fair, my posts tone was a little off kilter for comedic effect.
I have stated I am experience. I too have been green, blue and red as well and know the way around. I have promised to lynch inactives unless extraordinary circumstances occur. I promised constant activity and clue analysis, he says he can't always be active.
I see you are now pretty much a lock for sheriff but I would like to support the town as mayor.
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On May 19 2009 11:46 Foolishness wrote: Shikyo, just because I've only made a few posts has nothing to do with you getting elected or acting suspicious. Just because you have made the most posts doesn't make you a winner.
With that being said, I am running for sheriff.
Why? Because I am not Shikyo.
So far this game, Shikyo has done nothing but post a lot and write a very charismatic ballot. He has run uncontested, and none of the other candidates are willing to step up against him. There has hardly been any debate between him and the other candidates. We cannot let him gain control of an office position so easily like this.
There are many suspicious activities going on with his office running. He labeled out the scenario how mafia get 6 votes, and he chooses to obstain his vote, thereby gaining his chance of him getting into office. It is necessary to point out how the mafia would probably not all vote for the same person, but in the scenario where one person is dominating they clearly would.
Shikyo has been obtaining votes from the most random of people. People who have not backed up their reasoning and people who have not voted at all. In one case, someone clearly stated that they were voting for one of the other candidates (although this was prior to Shikyo's running), but then voted for Shikyo without saying a word about it (and then latter ignored this fact when he finally did post).
Shikyo has seemed like a good candidate until I raised possible suspicion about him. I clearly was not accusing him of anything, I just wanted to hear what he had to say. Instead he retorted almost angerily at me, implying that my posts meant nothing since I have only posted a few times. It is only natural for me to want to make sure we as a town are electing the best people into office. Someone who goes on the defensive when asked why the situation does not add up is not the person we want in office.
However I do not possess any qualities that would make me good candidate other than I am not Shikyo. This would be my first mafia game on TL, and none of you have any information about me. But this is all irrelevant. You can cast your vote and put a suspicious person into office or put your vote to better use. Just because he posts a lot does not make him the best choice.
You can vote for Shikyo and secure the fact that there will be suspicious happenings, or you can vote for me to ensure the town a victory. Even if you don't want to vote for me, pick someone else besides Shikyo.
The intention of your post seems swell enough but you have not said anything substantial to back it up. It's pretty obvious why he is running uncontested, because frankly his activity and his posts are a cut above the other candidates right now.
Your campaign message is: Run away from the bogeyman. Well, that's not going to cut it. Where's your plan? How are we going to succeed? Where are the flaws in Shikyo's statements? Have you got any clues that might cast suspicion on him? I do agree with Crate that confirming townies is a high priority for town. A confirmed vigi hit is the cleanest to do but a successful medic protection as outlined would definately be ideal. I am thinking of complications right now and will post more about it soon.
Jeejee, I had an eye on you ever since my preliminary clue search but these are so weak that I wanted to wait for one more day and wasn't putting it out. Now, after the echo chamber that you had with ilovektf and quiet support makes me more skeptical.
Meanwhile, downstairs, Qatol was using the Triumvirate Building's spacious archery range for target practice. As he looked down to reload, another figure crossed the room from the other side. The mafioso crept behind Qatol and took out his knife. Qatol never shot another arrow.
Fear is the strongest driving force in competition. Not fear of one's opponent, but of the skill and high standard he represents; fear, too, of not acquitting oneself well. In the achievement of higher performances, of beating formidable rivals, the athlete defeats fear and conquers himself. -Franz Stampfl
Your profile contains pretty much the only reference to athletic competition in the whole game. Franz Stampfl was a famous coach that had somewhat revolutionary ideas for how to train your body and practice for your sport, although he specialized in training runners he also trained other athletes in other fields. He was a noted olympic trainer, got his trainees many golds. The only place where archery is relevant today is athletic competition and the olympics.
Is this enough to say he is mafia, not even close. Is this enough to give you pause to vote for what appears to be the most important office for a mafia to gain, maybe.
Unfortunately, it would seem I am being self-serving. So in the end, it's up for the town to decide...
Of course, town, I do hope you give me your vote.
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As of now, the day 1 lynch will be an inactive or de facto inactive player. The one with the strongest logical clues towards it and/or inconsistent behaviour from previous games will get lynched. I am not sure about Jayme yet. Will be back with more.
The way I use my following votes will be both clue based and behaviour based depending on the strength of the evidence with that particular vote. My votes should align mostly with the general sentiment of the town unless I sense a bs/bandwgon vote led by mafia.
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On May 20 2009 05:17 BWdero wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2009 05:08 Jimtudor wrote: As of now, the day 1 lynch will be an inactive or de facto inactive player. The one with the strongest logical clues towards it and/or inconsistent behaviour from previous games will get lynched. I am not sure about Jayme yet. Will be back with more.
The way I use my following votes will be both clue based and behaviour based depending on the strength of the evidence with that particular vote. My votes should align mostly with the general sentiment of the town unless I sense a bs/bandwgon vote led by mafia. Any chance on you telling us which name you sent to Pyhrry? Or haven't you done that yet?
No, I haven't. I got a timetable from Pyrr that I need to send it in before 8PST. I won't miss it and I will tell once I made a decision.
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On May 20 2009 07:08 teks wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2009 06:38 Ra.Xor.2 wrote: Something interesting to note, this may or may not be a clue. Erlend Loe is a nowegian writer. Three players in this game are from Norway: Knutti, Teks, and Softer This has also been mentioned before. It MAY be something. We won't know until DT's are allowed to act. I'm thinking it's just a wordplay on Erlend Loe's book L + Audi TT -> forming the nick LTT. But you're right, we have to keep it in mind when more clues arrive. Show nested quote +On May 20 2009 06:11 l10f wrote:On May 20 2009 06:08 teks wrote: I'm thinking the same thing. I first thought the mafia candidate was JeeJee, seeing how he was voted on by Jayme and iLoveKTF who already had connections to the possible clues, and BWdero, who was suspected by Shikyo. The latest posts from JeeJee have turned me though, I too think it's probably JimTudor who's the red one here, I might change my vote to JeeJee seeing how Shikyo basically already has secured his spot, and I think it's good that JeeJee agrees with zeks on who to lynch first. I'll wait a bit longer though. How do you think we should carry out the check on Jimtudor after JeeJee gets the mayor spot? He should definitely be checked out, but I don't know with what method. Lynch him? Role check him? We can't really carry out a check at all, not yet atleast. We just have to analyze clues and behavior and try to connect them with the voters of Jimtudor and Jimtudor himself. It's not certain that they are red, but it's a start to go from at least. As long as they don't get into office they haven't really gained anything, except a nice steamy pile of attention. That would be a good start for the town. Lynching one of the inactive/silent voters of Jimtudor on day2 is also a possibility.
Sure, I would love to be checked if I do fail to get the mayor spot. But why would lynching me help the town. Once I turn up town aligned, does that mean the people voting for me are innocent, no. Once I turn up red, does that mean that people voting for me are red, not nessesarily. Please explain what have I done that is suspicious.
Well at JeeJee, yes I forgot that my name is a minor league hockey player. It always slip my mind that until someone mentions it in a mafia game. But still, the coach is more track and field, I didn't connect it with a sports team. Seriously though, my lack of posts for like a few hours is enough to be suspicious. I promised constant activity, but not one that means i am at my computer for 24/7.
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On May 20 2009 09:52 iLoveKTF wrote: I disagree on putting JimTudor on the medic list. He is under suspicion atm.
I only agree on JeeJee, zeks, crate and teks.
Please elaborate as in why am I under suspicion other than I ran for office.
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Well, then I don't have much to defend against... Other than the fact that I sure hope that Teks elimination number game is wrong and that for all the 'top' contenders for office, one should be mafia.
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@Koopie: Fair enough.
Changed my vote to Shikyo as I feel he is the strongest candidate with the best plan that has a chance at top office.
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I am just waiting for night. I promise after the night post for some good analysis.
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Edit: I meant the day post.
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gg mafia, gl town! Forward to victory!
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Heh, good game. I had fun while it lasted. Thanks for hosting, pyrr.
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