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On May 16 2009 12:55 LucasWoJ wrote:
Are we allowed to play the game without ever looking at our role, or would that be against the spirit of the game as well?
That's kinda what I was thinking before the game started. So I'm not going to look at my role until after the elections. 
With that said, I'm going to say that BC's candidacy is also very sketchy like Bockit pointed out. Like in Ace's game, MTF became godfather mayor and pretty much handed over the town organization to Caller, probably trying to avoid the spotlight. Players have been known to blindly trust the mayor in every game pretty much, so BC may be attempting to avoid suspicion while getting into a position of power/save mafia lives/be invincible from vigi hits (not like there are so many vigis in this game). Of course I may be totally wrong. But this does look suspicious to me.
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@ Lucas: I believe Ver died day one in Chuiu's last game (TL Mafia 5) when he was hit three times.
Ace has been playing DOTA all night, but he posts right after the day post and has posted other places in the forum (Like in Pyrr's signup thread). Interesting.
We already have 6 votes for Ver for mayor. And one of them is from Caller, who says we should avoid bandwagons. Although his vote for Ver was early and may not be part of a bandwagon attempt, I'd like to simply point out that fact so that perhaps people (like Caller) may see the need to re-evaluate their votes. As for me I'm still undecided. And also wondering why some other people are not active/not running for office.
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Seems not to be too many posts for my liking, although the election is completely opposite of what happened last game since we have a lot of candidates. So I decided to try my hand at clue analysis.
The satisfaction on their faces was as plain as the horror that must surely be on his own.
nemY?
In his profile picture the emotions of both people are kinda ambiguous, perhaps pointing to the satisfaction/horror depicted here? Although Qatol uses the word "plain" to modify horror, so perhaps this is not a clue??
Behavior could fit...why are you running for mayor exactly?
Off the coast of Liquidia, there was no moon to illuminate the night sky.
Maybe this fits with regards to LucasWoj's profile?
Arrow, scythe, hammer. Moonlight. Alley.
However, the lights on the deck of the SS Liquidia were more than sufficient for the events that were about to transpire.
Its dark. But its apparently everything could be seen. Clearly. Perhaps dreamflower?? The picture in dreamflower's profile has a dark background, but it is pretty easy to see the details in the flower.
And where is everyone? Thread seems a little dead for a vet game...unless a lot of people are talking in pms, but still, the thread needs to be alive people!
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Inactive list:
Have posted very little (one or two lines) since day post:
Scaramanga
Fishball
nemY
RebirthOfLeGend
HeavOnEarth
Have posted nothing since the day post:
fusionsdf
Plexa
Camlito
infinity21
MrBabyHands
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Well things just got interesting...what do people have to say about this?
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He could also be a townie trying to take a hit from mafia if he knew that nobody would vote for him.
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I can tell you if they've been edited
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On May 17 2009 09:17 L wrote: No it isn't. Its incredibly fucking easy. I can already name 3 blue roles from the way people are acting, its pretty transperant.
I don't necessarily think you're mafia (again) but you keep insisting that you already know 3 blues. You obviously feel confident about this. So, why do you feel this way? I think it would be more normal to suspect 3 blues/reds not just 3 blues. You'd only know that for sure if you were mafia.
Moving on...I haven't read the Empyrean thing yet. (If anyone can give me a summary that would be great though, else I'll read it now.) But I think we should be wary about the people trying to cast doubt on nemY. If he is actually a DT mafia would try hard to keep him out.
Medics...no point making a medic list. We have so many good players mafia might just simply ignore the list and not have to worry about the "good players" on the list.
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On May 17 2009 14:40 L wrote: First off, I said that once. Second, you're quoting a post made FIVE HOURS AGO. Third, you've been very active between then and here. I started off my analysis looking for blue players because I wanted to know who to support and who not to support in the mayoral running. I personally think i'm 90%+ correct on them and for 2 of them i'm not sure exactly what role they are, but its pretty obvious that some are blue and not red. Why am I not saying anything about mafia? Because I want to be more certain and want to see if clues match up with those people who I find suspicious due to behavior/lack of activity/voting patterns. Basically you're saying that I'm mafia because I'm not accusing people of being mafia on turn 1. Okay, slick.
I was out for the evening. I would have responded earlier but I got a BSOD right when i was typing my post  had to leave then.
I'm not saying you're mafia. I think you are perhaps just being a little to confident in your blue picks. That is all.
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^^The rest of the contents are...not related to nemY being possibly blue. Those pms have not been faked unless we are both mafia
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^^ You are lashing out. Please reread my posts. I was just making an observation. I am not advocating your lynch.
@ BC and L: Do you really think I'd be that stupid to be a mafia supporting a mafia when its clear that this is a controversial topic?
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Not that ballsy unless Im green. Caller's game very little risks(GF). The risks I did take I solved by silencing mikeymoo. Last game a failed hectic crazy plan that wouldn't have worked anyway.
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^^hey zealot icon yay
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On May 17 2009 15:20 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2009 15:16 Incognito wrote:
Not that ballsy unless Im green. Caller's game very little risks(GF). The risks I did take I solved by silencing mikeymoo. Last game a failed hectic crazy plan that wouldn't have worked anyway. you were a bit ballsy out there, making tiny informative posts that were kind of obvious hints at your fellow mafia that nobody picked up on -_-
You forget that there were also tiny informative posts asking why we (town) could purposely lose in order to hear you singing. Subtle and perhaps ballsy, but I wouldn't make tiny informative posts just for no reason. It was to gain trust. Here, defending nemY would not help me gain trust. Thus there would be little to no reason to do that if I were mafia.
Am I not allowed to use red tags unless its a serious accusation? (Look at SoG's posts) I was seriously considering removing the red tags. I ended up not doing that. Probably should have huh? Other than that I have stated many times (including in that post) that I am not accusing you now. If you really want to you can keep bringing up the subject. But right now I think it would be better not to sidetrack the us on some pretty useless accusation. Unless you think this accusation is the key to proving both me and nemY as mafia. Which I highly doubt you can do. If you can't, then I'd suggest we return to the task at hand which would be to elect a mayor.
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At least I'm a (semi) logical bastard.
With that said I'm going to take the precaution now for anyone else who is going to accuse me for not hovering over the post 24/7. I'm going to bed now.
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I feel uncomfortable about Ver since he really isn't doing what he says he would be doing. Traitor? Maybe. But that's besides the point. This L/Ace argument is getting us nowhere. And you both know it. I doubt nemY is mafia. On the other hand, I do have doubts on Ver/BC. I really don't trust Showtime! in a position where he is not able to be confirmed. And if Ace is going to act this way as mayor he probably shouldn't be mayor.
The thing is, if nemY is DT I would be ok with him being mayor/pardoner. Yes its good to protect key players. But these key players are generally hard to figure out. And on top of that, a lot of information can come from their deaths, assuming they take those precautions. However, a dead DT isn't worth all that much.
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^^You have no chance of winning.
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Why is nobody responding to my post? Either it is correct or it is flawed, I don't think you can have no opinion about it...
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This what? Is why you swtiched voting to Ace 20 minutes ago and said you were going to post an explanation, only to take 20 minutes to quote someone and write one word???
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Townies can make mistakes. Just because Ace is right doesn't mean he is green. It doesn't even mean that nemY is not a DT. If you people are saying that there is more to this and that nemY is actually red, I would say that there is more to THAT and that nemY is more likely traitor than mafia. Or he's blue.
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