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[Interview] ret, Zotac Cup winner

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The.Crow
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
619 Posts
April 20 2009 15:18 GMT
#1
Jos 'ret' de Kroon just won the first ever Zotac Cup in StarCraft history with taking down Protoss player Jian Fei 'IefNaij' Wang in the grand final. Kroon saves himself 100 Euro in prize money and talks to readmore.eu about his performance and the high skill level of Chinese players.

A little preview:

Did you expect that you would reach the finals?

ret: Not really, there were many great names in the tournament tree, especially Chinese players. Unfortunately, they lag with the rest of the world, and many of them had to be disqualified because the lag was unplayable... If that hadn't been the case, surely a Chinese player would have won the tournament.


The rest here:
http://www.readmore.eu/index.php?cont=news&id=5026

enjoy!
Rainbow
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States249 Posts
April 20 2009 15:24 GMT
#2
Thanks for posting!

+ Show Spoiler +
I don't know if this is a spoiler, but lol ToT has 10 zergs
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36389 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-20 15:29:30
April 20 2009 15:24 GMT
#3
Original thread title: "Ret: Exclude Chinese players from none Asian events SC"

This is really a sensationalist title that doesn't do anything other than make it seem like Ret is against Chinese people. If you read the article and interview, that's really not the case, as Ret credits their skill and says its unfortunate that they had to be banned but for the sake of game quality and future tournaments, he agrees with the admins decision to exclude them. The headline here should be that he won, not that he wants Chinese players excluded. Title changed.
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Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-20 15:28:02
April 20 2009 15:27 GMT
#4
On April 21 2009 00:24 Hot_Bid wrote:
This is really a sensationalist title that doesn't do anything other than make it seem like Ret is against Chinese people. If you read the article and interview, that's really not the case, as Ret credits their skill and says its unfortunate that they had to be banned but for the sake of game quality and future tournaments, he agrees with the admins decision to exclude them. The headline here should be that he won, not that he wants Chinese players excluded. Title changed.


agree, maybe he was just trying to catch some attention like every journalist does
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
April 20 2009 15:27 GMT
#5
Congrats Ret!
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
April 20 2009 15:28 GMT
#6
On April 21 2009 00:24 Hot_Bid wrote:
This is really a sensationalist title that doesn't do anything other than make it seem like Ret is against Chinese people. If you read the article and interview, that's really not the case, as Ret credits their skill and says its unfortunate that they had to be banned but for the sake of game quality and future tournaments, he agrees with the admins decision to exclude them. The headline here should be that he won, not that he wants Chinese players excluded. Title changed.


good work HB
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
April 20 2009 15:29 GMT
#7
awesome Interview, and lawl @ the topic change :D
BAD CROW!
You can't fight the feeling.
The.Crow
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
619 Posts
April 20 2009 15:34 GMT
#8
Okok shame on me! I sometimes like to spice things up and I know that tl.net ppl read the whole interview before they judge anyone. But ye, maybe it was not too good... anyways, ret played awesome in the finals against JF
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15358 Posts
April 20 2009 15:36 GMT
#9
<3 ret, gongrats on winning this one!

Please train Gan till he falls over. Imo he has incredible potential don't let him resign again.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 20 2009 15:37 GMT
#10
<3 ret
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 20 2009 15:41 GMT
#11
NICE!

reps!!!
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
April 20 2009 15:57 GMT
#12
<3
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
Gnojfatelob
Profile Joined April 2008
Belgium216 Posts
April 20 2009 15:57 GMT
#13
I generally dont like dutch people (like all belgians), but i guess i can make an exception for ret, seeing he is an awesome sc player.

gratz
Probably the best starcraft player in the world
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
April 20 2009 15:59 GMT
#14
Good job jos!

BWdero
Profile Joined February 2008
Netherlands476 Posts
April 20 2009 15:59 GMT
#15
On April 21 2009 00:57 Gnojfatelob wrote:
I generally dont like dutch people (like all belgians), but i guess i can make an exception for ret, seeing he is an awesome sc player.

gratz


Awww what did we do to you?
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MuR)Ernu
Profile Joined September 2008
Finland768 Posts
April 20 2009 16:02 GMT
#16
On April 21 2009 00:59 BWdero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2009 00:57 Gnojfatelob wrote:
I generally dont like dutch people (like all belgians), but i guess i can make an exception for ret, seeing he is an awesome sc player.

gratz


Awww what did we do to you?

be near you, and sort of similar. So they remind theirselves of their own faults and flaws
koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
April 20 2009 16:20 GMT
#17
nice interview and glad that we have yet another SC weekly tournament.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
April 20 2009 16:25 GMT
#18
congrats Ret
I am not good with quotes
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
April 20 2009 16:42 GMT
#19
Good job Ret.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
April 20 2009 16:44 GMT
#20
Nice ret
the games were sick btw, worth the watch
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
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