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Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 19 2009 21:34 GMT
#10
Just a little feedback: i hate variable roles, and dont understand how the The Contract killer works. Its a public role meaning everybody knows him? How is he going to be "paid" by mafia if he is not known by mafia? How will the town pay him? How is the condition going to be met? At first sight this guy will end up being just 1 more mafia.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 20 2009 12:32 GMT
#44
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Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 20 2009 13:07 GMT
#46
On April 20 2009 21:53 Scaramanga wrote:
I want in BC, Sign me up!

Arent you co-hosting?
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 20 2009 23:08 GMT
#52
bump bump bump
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 21 2009 03:22 GMT
#66
On April 21 2009 08:25 HeavOnEarth wrote:
sign me up!
Show nested quote +

1. Once you are dead you may not post anything at all. People are getting irritated with dead people talking so sorry but dead people are now forbidden from talking during the game. People not playing are advised not to post in the thread also. Moderators please help out with this where you can, if players insist on continuing to post I'll just ban them from playing the game again.

you can't post anywhere on TL? ;_;
or just the thread?

Mafia. "Puppy eyes" "im new" "i dont understand the BASIC SENSE rules"
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 21 2009 14:58 GMT
#73
On April 21 2009 14:29 chaoser wrote:
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On April 21 2009 13:46 HeavOnEarth wrote:
On April 21 2009 12:22 Malongo wrote:
On April 21 2009 08:25 HeavOnEarth wrote:
sign me up!

1. Once you are dead you may not post anything at all. People are getting irritated with dead people talking so sorry but dead people are now forbidden from talking during the game. People not playing are advised not to post in the thread also. Moderators please help out with this where you can, if players insist on continuing to post I'll just ban them from playing the game again.

you can't post anywhere on TL? ;_;
or just the thread?

Mafia. "Puppy eyes" "im new" "i dont understand the BASIC SENSE rules"

nah i honestly didn't know; but it was kinda obvious that you could.. on the rare chance that you couldn't however i just asked, since i dunno the game at all.
unless you're calling me out as "mafia" in the game because im trying to act innocent; *perplexed*


everyone's joking, the game didn't even start yet >_>

actually my posts are not just jokes, but they are super timed to *Bump Bump Bump* the feeling.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 21 2009 20:28 GMT
#79
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Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 21 2009 21:03 GMT
#81
On April 22 2009 06:02 Vivi57 wrote:
I'll play if there's still spots left

jesus you are 10 minutes late pm BC asap.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 21 2009 23:24 GMT
#92
For our clue analisis i want to remember people that BC writes his stuff a little different from Chuiu,
here is the final clue post about the previous mafia from BC and the link to main page to that game
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 27 2008 17:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Nevake Amaterasu Firebat, Soil, sun tan oil, asian women, sponsors, umbrella
ydg Camulus zealot, situational courage(bursts needed to move forward), word combinations, Y D G starts
clazziquai Yu templar, #1 fan, terran, cult member, electronic music, acid jazz, house
attackzerg Ba'al zerg, mutalisk, burgers, desserts, sandwiches, etc…
RebirthofLegend Kali scv, rebirth, man to legend, d-war: rebirth of legend, dragons, monsters
kuja900 Chronus lurker, starleagues, julyzerg, fighting,
Ver Nirrti scv, no hate, obscurity, Napoleon Bonaparte, knowing of what to do
Dinmsab Apophis asian, tributes, comander, empire, terran, vulture, hate, stork references
DecafChicken Anupus coffee, poultry, subway, lemons, professional, wood, defiler, plague
Capek Aries computers, foot stomp, professional but cockey, probe, robot, mechanical, intelligent

Malongo Sokar dragoon, protoss fan, twin or reflection, foreign language


Vigilantes
Mynock Hathor asian, tech jamming, glasses



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=83951
Ill read the first post and come with a suggestion but its quite unlikely that we can have too much from this alone.
On a side note: we dont have info about blues or mafia, BC is all info hidden this time?
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 21 2009 23:56 GMT
#100
On April 22 2009 08:43 tlmafiahitman wrote:
Before this account gets deleted, I am the contract killer in the game. I don't care who you are but if you want my services then please do the stuff in my signature to use them.

Boring. The idea of the role is that people finds you not that they contact you via mail. Also this could be mafia looking for blues. Or a vigi looking for mafia. Are you aware that mods can ip check your account dont you? for the fairness of the game ill ask an unrelated mod to do this because there are mods playing this time.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 22 2009 05:30 GMT
#143
The only way the contractor can contact the town is contacting a trusted nonblue townie. If not the town is risking the blues for unsure hits, its just too dangerous.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 22 2009 06:33 GMT
#156
On April 22 2009 15:10 Qatol wrote:
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On April 22 2009 15:09 Ace wrote:
I'm a green townie, so the CK can approach me

^_^


Greens are actually very bad for the CK to approach. All they have to offer is their role. The CK MUST approach someone with something to offer

I think we are missunderstanding the role. Once the contractor contacts mafia theres no way back for him, since mafia can hit him anytime after that. On the other side contractor can work a few rounds for the town then change to mafia side. Thats why its extremely important that we take him early as a mafia member, if he wants to join the town on his own will he has to accept that this can only be done through a single townie. And maybe BC can clear this but single townies have the voting power so if the contractor contacts me or ace or whoever roleclaimes townie the exchange can be the vote, maybe its not a big gain for the killer early but this can give him the chance to join the town.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 22 2009 06:49 GMT
#160
On April 22 2009 15:43 Tricode wrote:
Well first thing is reaching Contract killer. Second thing i guess would be guaranteeing him medic protection for a good amount of time right?

I just thought of something. Contract killer (if working for mafia) can choose to investigate someone and constantly keep trying to find blues for the mafia. (I am not sure how easy this will be though)

It might be important to make sure mafia doesn't get this power. Remember Contract killer doesn't have to kill, they can investigate.

So we need to make a proper incentive to keep this contract killer on the townie side.

The problem again is that we cant trade blues info. Think that the contract killer is imba in terms that he can join town and change side when he wants after that, but he cant leave mafia if he starts working for them.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 22 2009 06:59 GMT
#163
Please BC answer this: upon rolecheck on a mafia mayor the answer is?
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 22 2009 07:15 GMT
#171
On April 22 2009 08:43 tlmafiahitman wrote:
Before this account gets deleted, I am the contract killer in the game. I don't care who you are but if you want my services then please do the stuff in my signature to use them.

Id like to ask to the moderators playing this round for an IP check on this account and who shares it. Im asking this because its a power that not all players have and its important for the game. Thank you.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 22 2009 07:27 GMT
#177
On April 22 2009 16:18 Tricode wrote:
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On April 22 2009 16:15 Malongo wrote:
On April 22 2009 08:43 tlmafiahitman wrote:
Before this account gets deleted, I am the contract killer in the game. I don't care who you are but if you want my services then please do the stuff in my signature to use them.

Id like to ask to the moderators playing this round for an IP check on this account and who shares it. Im asking this because its a power that not all players have and its important for the game. Thank you.


Are you saying for us to find CK more easily and try to have them join townies lol? What if the mod is mafia and decides to make their own use of the CK or just kill that person off looking at them as an obstacle ;p

i was far more concerned about the fairness of the game other than anything. i asked another mod but he told me that he hadnt time to understand the whole thing.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 23 2009 02:56 GMT
#239
On April 23 2009 10:17 QuickStriker wrote:
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On April 23 2009 09:28 Qatol wrote:
Ok I think I'm going to post my final thoughts on the CK. The town should be willing to work with him. We can even do what we can to make contracts with him without interfering with his victory conditions. However, he needs to contact the town early. If he makes a contract with the mafia, he is essentially in the mafia's pocket without constant medic protection. He then becomes a liability to the town. So the CK basically needs to choose sides before his first hit. Continuing deals might be a problem, but I think it can be figured out decently easily.

Other matters to discuss:
Barring a HUGE shift in voting at the last second, I will be mayor. As I promised in my earlier post, I will be lynching an inactive that I think shouldn't be inactive. I AM trying to avoid someone who claims they are busy with exams. I kept off people who had even made 1 moderately long post.

Here is the list of inactives:

8.JeeJee
11. RebirthOfLeGend
13. Mandalor
15. nemY
19. Hyperbola
25. Camlito
26. Mynock
28. Versatile
29. 3 Lions
31. fusionsdf
32. truthbringer
35. Quickstriker
36. Rage
37. Motbob
39. Blue_Arrow
40. Inertinept
41. 0cz3c
43. Amber[light]
45. Aznvaliance
46. Laxercannon
48. ILoveKtf
49. T_co
50. scamp
51. goodwill
52. CompX
53. coolcrimefighter
54. YDG
56. Vivi57


List of those people who did not post in day 1 thread, just voted for mayor:

31. fusionsdf
32. truthbringer
35. Quickstriker - trolled the voting thread
46. Laxercannon
49. T_co
50. scamp
51. goodwill
53. coolcrimefighter
54. YDG



List of people with 1 one-liner post, but posted SOMETHING:

27. LordWeird - "Let the wild accusations begin!" and then a crazy accusation post
44. Zapling - "vote me for mayor wooo ill be a good one"
55. Mista - “Still taking my own sweet time ..”


List of people I consider to be exceptions due to school:

7.Fishball - “I would not have access to TL from Thursday to Sunday (Back on Sunday).”
10. Ver - "Due to an intense finals period I won't be on until a brief bit friday, and then I will probably go do research and will be tied up until mon/tues."
24. Mikeymoo - "mikeymoo and I are going to be inactive for about 24 hours due to an upcoming final. Sorry" (monoxide posted this)
47. Monoxide - “mikeymoo and I are going to be inactive for about 24 hours due to an upcoming final. Sorry”


Names that stand out to me from the list:
25. Camlito - he hasn't talked at all. surprising for a veteran player
26. Mynock - he is usually a pretty logical guy who is active
28. Versatile - VERY active during the election in Ace's Mafia World. Logical posts last game. Was pretty active.
36. Rage - come on man. You're TL staff. Gotta be held to a higher standard activity-wise.

If anyone has a better idea of who I should be targeting, please post it in the thread or PM me. Remember, the theory is that we should be targeting people who are uncharacteristically silent.


Alright everyone and Qatol, I really didn't want to speak up yet nor would I actually do anything right now seeing how I enjoy my quiet and peaceful life in TL, in this game, and in RL, but enough is ENOUGH! First off, yes this is my first post in this thread (second if you count the factor that on this very same thread I made a post that I wanted to join this game). And I can understand the fact that you would consider me as inactive since I was actually busy enjoying my outside life trying to learn and practice golf, preparing for my college transfer, and just doing my own business HOWEVER when everyone starts bashing at me for such a pointless idiotic stupid reason, that's where I decide to come out in the open and talk about it.

"...trolled the voting thread"

now how the hell did I troll in that thread? I was minding my own business of voting someone who I wanted to give my opinion of and we have the next post commenting and cricitizing my post in which I felt a little bit offended by that post. So what's the next thing that should have been done? Well I comment him back to stfu about it and tell him he's an idiot for posting something like that... after that, I suppose I somehow got my name out there and got noticed by ppl (and you) saying oh how I'm trolling just b/c I expressed my opinion and told Caller to shut up about it. Now I see how obviously you join in and tell everyone away I'm a troller?

Ok, that's that, I'm done commenting about how other ppl think about me so I'll leave it here unless someone else decides to offend me again for w/e reason they think it's necessary....

Now I suppose my next question is, does my post just now became a whole new target of you and your team to look that, if I haven't been one already for making a post that didn't really matter much??

One last thing I like to say is I notice how a lot of ppl just voted Qatol for mayor without saying much as if it was some sort of a spam-ish thing.... sure, some ppl gave input and output but it's just that... I find it a little suspcious to me, probably b/c this is my first time in this game....

Holy shit batman. I just gave you the "80% mafia chance" prize that malongo created last game.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 23 2009 03:47 GMT
#242
I know this is a little early but i cant pass this. Im builiding a case against Quickstriker. His posting so far:

in the voting thread votes for FS in a rather strange way:
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On April 23 2009 00:37 QuickStriker wrote:
I vote for Barack Obama and also for Fakesteve

Reason: Obama is already president of the US, and Fakesteve looks like an awesome guys especially with his Power Ranks in which I love to read every month. Although Power Rank shouldn't be my only reason, my second reason would be he has a freaking nice awesome avatar on his name (in which I would want.... someday...) which appeals to me much. My third reason would be that he's so big and famous that I admire him as a sort of role model in TL. #4 is he has such a nice mood face which encourages me at times.... Lastly, I luv his profile and even his own fan club!!! (I wanna join!!!!)

So basically 5 reasons:
1. Power Rank
2. Guitar avatar
3. Big, powerful, popular mod
4. Good mood expression
5. Profile + fanclub

I hope that is good enough reasons for u all! That said, GL HF DD FakeSteve!!!!


Then answers callers comment
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 23 2009 00:57 QuickStriker wrote:
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On April 23 2009 00:38 Caller wrote:
On April 23 2009 00:37 QuickStriker wrote:
I vote for Barack Obama and also for Fakesteve

Reason: Obama is already president of the US, and Fakesteve looks like an awesome guys especially with his Power Ranks in which I love to read every month. Although Power Rank shouldn't be my only reason, my second reason would be he has a freaking nice awesome avatar on his name (in which I would want.... someday...) which appeals to me much. My third reason would be that he's so big and famous that I admire him as a sort of role model in TL. #4 is he has such a nice mood face which encourages me at times.... Lastly, I luv his profile and even his own fan club!!! (I wanna join!!!!)

So basically 5 reasons:
1. Power Rank
2. Guitar avatar
3. Big, powerful, popular mod
4. Good mood expression
5. Profile + fanclub

I hope that is good enough reasons for u all! That said, GL HF DD FakeSteve!!!!

why don't you give him a blow job while you're at it


Why don't I go to your house and steal your sister and your girlfriend at the same time?

Honestly your logic of that comment is the same logic a monkey would do a banana..... if you are going to make a pointless idiotic comment on a mayor voting thread, then I suggest you reconsider before you wish to have another enemy in your hands than you already had. Seriously now..... ppl these days...


And finally his post as a response to quatol
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 23 2009 09:28 Qatol wrote:here what qatol wrote


Alright everyone and Qatol, I really didn't want to speak up yet nor would I actually do anything right now seeing how I enjoy my quiet and peaceful life in TL, in this game, and in RL, but enough is ENOUGH! First off, yes this is my first post in this thread (second if you count the factor that on this very same thread I made a post that I wanted to join this game). And I can understand the fact that you would consider me as inactive since I was actually busy enjoying my outside life trying to learn and practice golf, preparing for my college transfer, and just doing my own business HOWEVER when everyone starts bashing at me for such a pointless idiotic stupid reason, that's where I decide to come out in the open and talk about it.

"...trolled the voting thread"

now how the hell did I troll in that thread? I was minding my own business of voting someone who I wanted to give my opinion of and we have the next post commenting and cricitizing my post in which I felt a little bit offended by that post. So what's the next thing that should have been done? Well I comment him back to stfu about it and tell him he's an idiot for posting something like that... after that, I suppose I somehow got my name out there and got noticed by ppl (and you) saying oh how I'm trolling just b/c I expressed my opinion and told Caller to shut up about it. Now I see how obviously you join in and tell everyone away I'm a troller?

Ok, that's that, I'm done commenting about how other ppl think about me so I'll leave it here unless someone else decides to offend me again for w/e reason they think it's necessary....

Now I suppose my next question is, does my post just now became a whole new target of you and your team to look that, if I haven't been one already for making a post that didn't really matter much??

One last thing I like to say is I notice how a lot of ppl just voted Qatol for mayor without saying much as if it was some sort of a spam-ish thing.... sure, some ppl gave input and output but it's just that... I find it a little suspcious to me, probably b/c this is my first time in this game....

My reasons to think he is actually mafia based in my previous experiences:
- Largely insubstancial vote. While i can understand people voting without a strong reason and even under plain bandwagon his reasoning is just to much premade to be that insubstancial.
- Troll. While again i understand he just reacted to callers comment thats way an overreaction. Normal townies are less likely to post trash and start a flamewar without need, they know the more the noise you do the more the damage to the rest of the game.
- Added nothing. This guy has posted 3 times (2 in the voting thread), yet he hasnt added nothing to the town, while here most of us are arguing about the game and CK and other things he contents to make noise while proposing 0 not even a posible clue.
- To his inactiveness he comes up against qatol but again instead of adding something or proposing an idea he is "done commenting what other people thinks about him" and he will come back to comment in the case someone offends him only.
- He is aware that his response to qatol will be analized and took the time to predefend about this, this is so mafia thinking, then for all excuse he proposes his post doesnt matter that much.
- Lastly in his first post, he starts creating doubts about the bandwagon qatol, and his reason is because its his first game. This is not a reason, there are always first time players but in my experience most of the time this is the most stupid excuse to start doing stupid things.

I really think this guy is 80% mafia.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 24 2009 14:09 GMT
#339
The real problem about activity is that we cant do anything else until the day post comes in, most of the discussion comes from the clues, so if there are no clues theres not too much to add at least from my side (yeah and quickstriker still looks mafia to me). The other point is that lack of info about the numbers is way to painful for the town, because there are millers and gf. I mean theres almost no way to counter-check a player for trustability because the amount of blues/mafia is hidden.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 24 2009 18:10 GMT
#342
On April 25 2009 01:07 LTT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2009 00:40 Caller wrote:
On April 24 2009 23:09 Malongo wrote:
The real problem about activity is that we cant do anything else until the day post comes in, most of the discussion comes from the clues, so if there are no clues theres not too much to add at least from my side (yeah and quickstriker still looks mafia to me). The other point is that lack of info about the numbers is way to painful for the town, because there are millers and gf. I mean theres almost no way to counter-check a player for trustability because the amount of blues/mafia is hidden.

I have an idea
We look for vigis to make a kill on day 2. A vigi will send a pm to three people, good players, saying that they will hit so and so tonight. Then we watch and count hits. If hits are right, that vigi can roleclaim and volunteer they were vigi. They already used their hit so if they die they won't be that important, as long as the vigi makes list. Then we can stack medics and assign night roles to see if the night roles go through with it. If hits are lower than expected, we do a cluecheck on the kill and vigi, and that can be arranged through no dts saying anything. If the clue does not point to that person, we lynch them. For added safety, we target a high suspicion person, so if someone is faking big and be like "oh mafia blocked my hit" we will get a better idea of who are suspects without using a lynch. Then we tell him to do another high suspicion target, and if it happens again the vigi should be highly suspect as mafia.


That's interesting, but I can see a problem. There isn't a way to tell a vigi from a CK without a role check. It seems as if your plan is trying to confirm vigis through clue checks without wasting role checks since, if this game is handled like almost every other one, the mafia don't get to decide which player is assigned to which hit meaning they have no control over clues. A CK doesn't have this problem and might not have our best interest in mind when people start roleclaiming... :x

This idea can work, but it is going to cost us some role checks. The clue checks aid us in preventing the GF from hiding as a vigi, but we need RC to stop a CK from getting in.

In fact this idea is better done at night 2 when the roles can start using the power. I dont think the CK can start killing asap without contacting someone to hire him, so im thinking its quite unlikely that CK will hit on night 2 and even then its quite unlikely that CK wants to get too much involved with the town to rolefake a vigi (im guessing he wants to remain as unsuspiciouly as posible). I like it, however theres still some minor problems, like the dt coordination and the vigi coordination (i think we dont want ALL our vigis hitting night 2).
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
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