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mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-03-14 09:53:33
November 19 2002 16:56 GMT
#1
I've been getting a lot of questions about how the OGN tournaments (i.e. the Challenge League, the Duel Tournament, and the Starleague) work, so I'll take a quick stab at giving folks a clearer picture of things.

The short explanation is that the Challenge Legaue is the qualifying tournament for the Duel Tournament, which itself is the qualifying tournament for the next Starleague. Everything culminates in the Starleague, where all the money is, but also where the players face the toughest competition on the planet.

But, that may be a bit too brief for some, so let me explain in more detail. Things start off with the Challenge League. There's a one-day qualifying tournament to get into the Challenge League itself involving 96 (or so) players. What's important is that only 24 players make it into the Challenge League. Those 24 are then divided into Groups of 4 (so, for the numerically CHALLENGED, that's 6 Groups, A - F, in total). Players within each Group do a double-elimination format mini-tournament. The top 2 players from each Group qualify for the Duel Tournament, so you have 11 Challenge Leaguers advancing into the Duel Tournament.

But, wait! If 2 players qualify from each Group and there are 6 Groups, isn't that 12 players who qualify for the Duel Tournament and not 11?! mensrea, are you D-U-M?! Well, I could be, but not in this case. You see (and this format began with the 2nd Challenge League in the middle months of 2002) the 6 qualifiers who make it out of their Challenge League Groups ranked #1 (i.e. the players who made it through the double-elim without a single loss) get to battle each other one final time to determine the "winner" of the Challenge League itself. The Challenge League winner gets an automatic seed in the next Starleague and does not need to play in the Duel Tournament. This guy is SET!

Ok, still with me? So what happens in the Duel Tournament? Well, basically, 13 players (i.e. all players who didn't make top 3) from the previous Starleague (which usually runs contemporaneously with the Challenge League and, after that's done, the Duel Tournament) get paired with the 11 Challenge Leaguers in another 24-person (13 + 11), 6-Group double-elim mini-tournament, only this time, there's no "winner:" the top 2 from each Group simply qualify for the next Starleague (which is what everyone's been playing their asses off for anyway). And that's it for the Duel Tournament!

But why 13 from the previous Starleague? Well, because OnGameNet, in a stroke of genius, decided that the top 3 finishers from the previous Starleague should get seeds in the next Starleague and not have to play in the Duel Tournament to qualify again. Remember: Starleague is a 16-person tournament divided into 4 deadly Groups A - D. So, the top 3 from the previous Starleague each get seeds at the top of different Groups in the next Starleague (so they don't have to play each other in the first round). The fourth and final Group seed in the Starleague, of course, goes to the winner of the Challenge League (remember?).

Overall, this current format is way cooler, especially because it means that the usually boring 3rd/4th place match in the Starleague now gets turned into a fiercely contested, no-holds-barred CATFIGHT, where the difference between 3rd (an automatic seed in the next Starleague) and 4th (down you go to do battle and face possible elimination in the Duel Tournament) is no longer just a matter of a few extra Korean Won and bragging rights.

Hope you got all that. 'Cause I ain't doing this again...



mensrea
2002. 11. 20

actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
Roman
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2595 Posts
November 19 2002 17:47 GMT
#2
very clear. thx
Heaven[fd]
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada94 Posts
November 19 2002 19:27 GMT
#3
thx mensrea
very intresting read maybe u guys can explain more to us
like
how do they determine the #1 player
besides wcg
i know they run on points and how do they get them
and such
thx HeaVen
Now Known as rS.Heaven
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
November 19 2002 23:39 GMT
#4
as far as i know kpga runs the kpga pro gamer ranking where players gets points for all major tournaments, but i dont know the formula they use.

that page wax steals all his news from also has statistics, but they cover every tv match ever played, so stats are a bit out-dated; e.g byun is still #11, grrr is on top 10 etc.
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PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
November 20 2002 01:07 GMT
#5
Pure fan
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33313 Posts
November 20 2002 04:51 GMT
#6
STEAL!?!?!

Very much so

mail me :o
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Wizzra
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands514 Posts
November 21 2002 09:37 GMT
#7
Maybe you could make an explanation for KPGA too? Mega matches, extra matches, what is it all about?

And I would also like to know how the player-ranking is calculated.

Thx in advance S;-)
The responsibility of tolerance lies in those who have the wider vision.
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
November 21 2002 17:22 GMT
#8
I think we'll let WaxAngel handle the KPGA: he's the expert on it.

Regarding the rankings, the formula depends on which ranking. The two most widely quoted ones are the official KPGA rankings that come out like once a month and the "unofficial" rankings at PGR21.com. Both take into account results from tournaments and mini-events, but they differ in the way the results are weighted. Generally speaking, pgr21 is the more comprehensive of the two, taking account virtually all matches played since the beginning of SC. But, that's not necessarily a good thing, because you get anomalies like Grrr being ranked #10 still overall and [z-zone]byun still ranked #6 among Zerg when he's been retired for over a year now. KPGA assigns greater weight to wins in bigger tournies, as well having a more up-to-date cutoff date for the matches that get counted.

Neither ranking is perfect, but they're both useful, depending on what exactly you're looking to rank (the best players ever? Or just the best players this past 3-4 months? etc.)
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
Wizzra
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands514 Posts
November 23 2002 06:13 GMT
#9
Wax
Wax
Wax
Wax
Wax
Wax?
The responsibility of tolerance lies in those who have the wider vision.
Beamo
Profile Joined March 2003
France1279 Posts
March 03 2003 09:13 GMT
#10
Nice explainations !! I finally understand how all that works :/

the only thing missing might be that the OGN leagues happen 3 times a year (I think).
poland
Profile Joined February 2003
Poland956 Posts
April 07 2003 16:09 GMT
#11
that made no sense at all; i didnt understand one fuckin sentance of yours mensrea.. plz rewrite it in ENGLISH
:p
i dont believe in mimes... do u?
thisiscc
Profile Joined April 2003
United States33 Posts
April 15 2003 05:35 GMT
#12
Do you know the history of the OnGameNet Leagues?
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
March 15 2004 23:21 GMT
#13
so did yellow fail to win the challenge league so he is not in the dual league?
We decide our own destiny
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
March 17 2004 15:08 GMT
#14
On March 16 2004 08:21 Tien wrote:
so did yellow fail to win the challenge league so he is not in the dual league?


I believe so, yes...
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
yOOysi
Profile Joined December 2002
Poland726 Posts
August 20 2004 06:59 GMT
#15
Hmmm thx for explanation this system...


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Nutznick
Profile Joined November 2004
51 Posts
November 20 2004 08:34 GMT
#16
interesting
eternalbliss
Profile Joined August 2004
United States1035 Posts
November 30 2004 12:07 GMT
#17
Nice finally I found the theread to explain all this to me lol and yes it was very clear.
itzMorglum
Profile Joined October 2004
Poland171 Posts
November 30 2004 17:38 GMT
#18
really usefull article enjoyed reading
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