The thing is if Ghar is mafia and is elected as mayor, the bodyguard plan would reduce the possible damage he could do to us, but he could still sacrifice himself and our double lynches go down the drain.
I'm not saying he is mafia (I even voted for him, but I'm kinda undecided), but I would rather have someone as mayor who is not supposed to be linked to any clues.

Mandalor

Germany2362 Posts

March 18 2008 17:24 GMT

#538

I don't know if you were asking me to do this exercise, Ace, but I'll just quote the "clue" and your post regarding it.

Eight people in his way, chances weren't good.

On March 18 2008 17:46 Ace wrote:
Oh and about the quote in Ghar's profile:

All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us... they can't get away this time" -- Lieutenant General Lewis B."Chesty" Puller (when surrounded by 8 enemy divisions) - United States Marine Corps

I'm not even saying this clue points to him (I didn't play last game, but read it and the only clue I would have definitely seen was the tomissthemark one), but there is a slight chance it does (I would ignore the snake btw) and since I haven't seen any possible clues that would lead to another candidate, I'll most likely change my vote to someone else (not sure yet).

Mandalor

Germany2362 Posts

March 21 2008 17:19 GMT

#1753

it
is
day
now
.

Can't wait for day as well, tho. I want more clues.

Mandalor

Germany2362 Posts

March 23 2008 21:41 GMT

#2211

Well, I had some rl going and chuiu didn't reply within 2 hours of my pm sent.
Sorry for that, I wrote you a PM now. Hope this clears things up. if not, gl town!

Mandalor

Germany2362 Posts

March 23 2008 21:52 GMT

#2227

Hey I voted for Ace as well! lol

Mandalor

Germany2362 Posts

March 27 2008 16:38 GMT

#3132

How do you know Showtime got a hit? Just because he said so? I mean, Lucas is dead and can't talk when he's dead, right? I'd consider that cheating if he talked.

<- silent again

btw I don't know what the mafia hitlist looked like, just in case you see this as a confirmation

Mandalor

Germany2362 Posts

March 27 2008 16:48 GMT

#3140

I still don't get it. So he pmed you after he died? Because before that he couldn't know that Showtime got hit.

Mandalor

Germany2362 Posts

March 27 2008 23:08 GMT

#3197

On March 28 2008 05:32 Showtime! wrote:

Show nested quote +

no, he's allowed to let me know that he protected me last night and he did. That isn't against the rules.

Bah, triple post. I have to catchup with today's events though.

The stupidity of some people is baffling.

He messaged Ace that you got a hit after he died. That is against the rules obviously and that's all I said. This also gives the town a huge advantage since Ace knows you're a confirmed townie now. I'm sure you would've been lynched in the future or a dt power would have been wasted on you.
I'm hoping Mods ban you when this game is over, your insults are quite annoying.

Mandalor

Germany2362 Posts

March 27 2008 23:16 GMT

#3200

Obviously Mafia members aren't able to step up and say that town is cheating, I'm the only person that can do so for now. I wouldn't have posted again if showtime hadn't posted such a dumb statement.
Also, I'm not the only one who posted after death. And in addition the rule that doesn't allow dead people to post in this thread was only established because shallow posted "lol town is so dumb hahaha" like every day, I'm not doing that but do constructive posts.

Once again, I'll not post again if town doesn't cheat or denies they did when it's obvious.

edit: to the post above this.
NO fuck NO Ace couldn't know that Showtime got hit. Showtime could've told him, but Ace wouldn't know if that was true if he hadn't recieved a pm from Lucas. Ace is smart enough to not declare someone innocent if he's not absolutely sure and the only way he could know that hit on showtime definitely happened is if the medic told him.

edit2: I'm just going to post in this post regarding this "debate". I think I made my point clear. Mafia members can't post to show that the town is playing in an unfair way, so I'm the only one who can do so for now and I WILL do so because chuiu won't be able to follow this game the way people do that participate(d).

edit3: If I wouldn't post here, chuiu wouldn't know you're cheating and therefore wouldn't tell me to help. How the heck do you guys see this as game altering btw? I'm not saying who my mafia buddies are, I'm not giving mafia any tips and I don't analyze any clues or w/e. All I said is you're cheating and I proved it.

Mandalor

Germany2362 Posts

August 04 2008 23:30 GMT

#6850

I don't want to spoil L's (or whoever's) summary, but I'd like to adress the cheating incident I was involved in.
Weeks after I died, I was just browsing TL.net and what I do from time to time is search for threads my name is in. I do that to see if someone quoted me and was waiting for a reply in a thread I had forgotten about. Because of a mix of procrastination and nostalgia, I clicked on page 164 or sth and saw a thread named "Shinhan Bank whatever OSL". I never really followed pro-gaming and I was sure I never posted in a thread concerning korean proleagues and BAAAAM found Plexa's hidden list of all townies and their roles. It was completely random. I actually sticked to Chuiu's rules until this point. I visited the mafia irc channel 3 or 4 times after I died, but didn't really say anything. I was just trying to get me updated on what's going on, but other than that I honestly didn't participate anymore. Having a potential game winner at hand I just couldn't resist and had to pm it to my mafia buddies. I know I shouldn't have done it, but this situation was just toooo tempting.
You can go ahead and flame me for cheating, but take a second and think about it. I don't think more than 5% of the game participants would have acted differently.

Talking about the balance of the game I think Chuiu balanced it well. Mafia had a few great moments (the irc incident, plexa's list) while we did some severe mistakes (bandwagoning, weak defenses) and afterall the game was quite close. The game could have gone either way. Plexa not being a townie would have made a great mafia victory whereas Plexa's list not being found a very peaceful town.

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