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Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
February 09 2008 05:42 GMT
#32
Sign me up sounds like some fun
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
February 16 2008 07:12 GMT
#1164
Yeah, the clues point towards Dr.Dragoon.
I vote Dr.Dragoon to be lynched

Sorry, if your not a mafia, but soo much points towards you that we'd be stupid not to kill you off.

Also, someone gets killed by having their head thrusted into a boiling pot of water. Hotzhot comes to mind there.
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
February 17 2008 05:10 GMT
#1355
I vote Dr. Dragoon + Notsorry

I also dont believe that both Dr.Dragoon AND Nightmare are both mafia. However 1 of them is. Kill the most likely suspect off first, if hes townie, then Nightmare should be next.

Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
February 17 2008 05:30 GMT
#1364
On February 17 2008 14:14 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2008 14:10 Fen wrote:
I vote Dr. Dragoon + Notsorry

I also dont believe that both Dr.Dragoon AND Nightmare are both mafia. However 1 of them is. Kill the most likely suspect off first, if hes townie, then Nightmare should be next.


I don't get your reasoning. it's even worse than the either Shallow or me has to be mafia. Just wondering how one of us has to be mafia when we really aren't connected at all. Though Nightmare does hate me, because he's mafia.


Your connected because Nightmare voted for you. Mafia members dont vote for each other, so one of you is not mafia, that we can be certain of. However you and Nightmare are on top of my list of suspects, so I vote for the most likely one and will go for the other tommorow if it turns out to be a mistake.

If you are mafia, then Nightmare is off my suspects list.
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
February 17 2008 05:38 GMT
#1371
On February 17 2008 14:36 Falcynn wrote:
Also

Show nested quote +
On February 17 2008 14:30 Chuiu wrote:
one yelling and screaming for his life and bitter to the end, the other quiet and confused.


ROFL can anyone guess which one's which?


I Lol'ed
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
February 22 2008 02:47 GMT
#1930
Yes to extension, I still cant make up my mind. We really need to get this correct. If FS is not mafia, then we lose something really important.

Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
February 25 2008 10:53 GMT
#2265
Ok, so here are the people who ran for mayor.

Tracil
SoMuchBetter
FakeSteve
mahnini
infinity21
betaben
Mini Moose 2707

2 are currently still alive.
It makes sense that the mafia would try to get someone in a mayor or at least pardoner position, so I would say that either Infinity or Tracil are going to be mafia. Which one?

Well Tracil recieved 13 votes, Infinity recieved 1. Now if a mafia was running for mayor, then I would expect them to have a lot more than 1 vote.

Tracil also hasnt touched his ability to pardon people, but then, we've never gone after a mafia yet either so if he is mafia, he hasnt needed to.

Now if Tracil is mafia, he has 4 pardons left. That means if we correctly guess mafia for the next 4 nights, he can pardon them and save them and we will have made no progress at all. We would have NO chance of winning the game. Unless we can get some absolute proof that Tracil is a good guy, then we cannot take the risk of leaving him in such a powerful position.

Therefore Tracil is on top of my list and I Vote for Tracil to be Lynched



Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
February 27 2008 13:32 GMT
#2417
lol ive refreshed this page every few minutes for the last few hours, commme onnn, I wanna know if the most obvious clues actually point to a mafia.
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
February 27 2008 16:17 GMT
#2437
Wow we actually got a mafia. Its about bloody time.

And to add to that, we know that 5 of 9 people are mafia as well. This looks like we might still be able to turn this around.

Now seeing as 5 mafia voted Tracil, I'm going to assume he is not mafia (sorry). I think Falycnn and IamDerek might be mafia and if I was a vigilante, one of them would be my hit tonight (please dont kill me ).
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
February 28 2008 06:47 GMT
#2497
Hey Chuii, can you please ban everyone who signed up and didnt play in this game from playing in the next game. Because about half the townies left are not even playing and thats just not cool.

Also, could a system be implemented where every player must post at least once during each day/night cycle. If they dont, they get booted from the game (they flee town or something), and their role (if they have one) gets passed onto someone else. Because if the detectives end up being afkers, then its totally going to screw the townies over.
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
February 29 2008 16:49 GMT
#2543
How long has it been since L2W announced that he was a paramedic? Hes managed to survive 2 nights even though the mafia know that he has a cruicial role? You would think that the mafia would go for a Blue before random greenies wouldnt you?
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-29 17:57:26
February 29 2008 17:56 GMT
#2549
Ok, assuming Live2Win is mafia, lets look at the game.

- A reoccurring theme is that a mafia with a syringe is injecting people with a substance that seems like it is supposed to increase strength. It fits the description of a stim very well and the best fit is Live2Win's Sig.

- He gets in trouble and is about to be townie lynched. He looks at the list, realises that there are 4 paramedic positions still alive. Chances are, one is not playing and he can assume that role. His move pays off.

- After announcing to everyone that he is a paramedic, he is not attacked by the mafia. You would assume the mafia would want to take paramedics down as their power becomes greater as the townie numbers decrease.

- After becoming the medic that is supposed to watch over the townies most valuble asset, he "accidently" sends the PM to the wrong person and the detective dies.

This info is pretty solid against you Live2Win. I'm interested to hear your counterargument.

EDIT: only to make it more readable
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
March 01 2008 03:30 GMT
#2597
On March 01 2008 04:10 Live2Win wrote:
Pretending to be Paramedic - Far too risky. Pretending to assume a position means you WILL be uncovered eventually. It puts a timeline on your life. If I was mafia, my goal would be to stay alive until the end. I wouldn't assume a role unless I knew I could live it out. Of course, both cases have no proof to back them up.


See Live2Win, It wasnt a risky move at all. It was the best possible choice for a mafia in that position. You were about to be lynched by the townies. You had majority of the votes. You were going to die. In that situation, you take a gamble to stay in the game as long as possible.

The paramedic role is very good for the town, it is something we do NOT want to risk killing. Making it a perfect choice. You then look and see that 4/4 paramedics are still alive, considering the amount of people not playing this game, there is a good chance that at least 1 will be not playing. Perfect.

If you are mafia, then that you made a desperate play to stay in the game. It was risky, but then, the alternative was death in 6 hours time, so you didnt have anything to lose. The fact that it worked and everyone changed their vote means that if you are mafia, I'll take my hat off to you because it really was a brilliant play.

You represent 0.5 killing power to the mafia every night. You want to stay in the game as long as possible.

Now I still havnt decided who to vote for yet. On the one hand, I suspect Live2Win is mafia more than any other person in this game. However Live2Win is not part of the group of 8. That being said, there are only 4 out of 11 mafia in that group, leaving 7 that are still roaming around.

Its a case of, do I think Live2Win is mafia enough that I will forgoe a 50% chance of hitting with my next vote?
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-01 03:34:23
March 01 2008 03:32 GMT
#2598
11/39 - 28% chance that we lynch a mafia just by randomly picking from anyone.

4/8 - 50% chance that we lynch a mafia by randomly picking from the group that voted against Tracil.

EDIT: Got my maths wrong thanks to goldenkirbi.
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
March 01 2008 05:12 GMT
#2607
On March 01 2008 13:21 Chuiu wrote:
There already are websites just for the game. But none of them have awesome 30+ player games.


By the looks of things, the next game is going to be like 100+ players.

Can someone please list the reasons why we think Unforgiven is mafia. I never really suspected him, but a lot of you do.
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
March 01 2008 05:27 GMT
#2611
On March 01 2008 11:56 goldenkrnboi wrote:
Show nested quote +
He screamed out "you're not going to get away with that" as he jumped down to get revenge.


ZBir basically said that he wouldn't forgive the killer.

Therefore, Unforgiven?


Ok, this is a pretty god awful interpretation of that clue. How is "you're not going to get away with that" related towards not being forgiven?


However

guys, please stop voting for Live2Win. No matter how much you think your arguments are true, there's still the possibility that he might not be mafioso, and we could end up losing an all-important medic.

look at dr. dragoon, he acted foolishly, everyone started turning against him, we ended up wasting a lynch and a double lynch at the same time.

FakeSteve: too many people got suspicious of him, we ended up losing 2 double lynches that we need at this point.

So, what should we do? Listen to Falcynn

Since we now know that Alventine was telling the truth, let's use all the info that he's given us. He told us that there were 5 mafia that voted for FakeSteve. now, with imDerek dead, let's focus on clues that could get those 4 mafias lynched, instead of using the lynch on L2W, who we really don't have any evidence against besides the syringe. And honestly, i would rather take the 50% chance of getting a mafioso more than the 11/28 chance.


Does make a lot of sense. A 50% chance of hitting is pretty decent so I do agree that the person who gets hung today should be in that group.

I Vote for Unforgiven and hope that you guys are not basing this purely on a butchered clue.
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-02 04:08:38
March 02 2008 04:07 GMT
#2657
On March 02 2008 07:42 clazziquai wrote:
masami.sc is a townie im at his house right now


...

You should be banned for this post.
Your not even playing the game.

EDIT: ok sorry you are playing. That being said, thats very unsportsmanlike
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-02 04:26:46
March 02 2008 04:24 GMT
#2663
On March 02 2008 13:18 clazziquai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2008 13:07 Fen wrote:
On March 02 2008 07:42 clazziquai wrote:
masami.sc is a townie im at his house right now


...

You should be banned for this post.
Your not even playing the game.

EDIT: ok sorry you are playing. That being said, thats very unsportsmanlike


Oh because I didn't want us to waste a lynch later on because masami never talks lol-_-


No, because the WHOLE FRICKEN POINT of this game is to not know what role everyone has. Its a guessing and deception game. By going around to someones house and looking at their role, then your taking the point out of the game. Your quite literally CHEATING.


Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
March 02 2008 05:57 GMT
#2689
On March 02 2008 14:43 Falcynn wrote:
Alright, the way I see it anyone who's on the list of 9 (or 7 now) will probably be safe this night. The reason I say this is because by lynching correctly, our chance of hitting someone on the list next day has dropped to 42%, since the mafia obviously doesn't want to make it easier for us to dwindle their numbers down they'll leave the remaining 4 townies on that list alone to keep our odds of hitting scum down. So if you're a medic...I'm going to hope that you can leave us alone and try to save someone who probably will get hit.


Hmm, thats true. The townies in that group are safe at night and in the firing lines during day. Ironic.

Anyways, good work guys, lets hope the Vigilantes can keep up the good streak we have going at the moment.
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
March 02 2008 06:14 GMT
#2697
On March 02 2008 15:01 clazziquai wrote:
Can Fen be mafia? I'm not accusing you directly, but according to wikipedia, "Fen" is a type of marshland where "needle spike rushes" are common.

If you look back to the day posts, all of the killings have been done where one mafia member uses needles AT LEAST ONCE
This is just some thinking..



Fen is short for Fenrir. The norse mythological wolf who owned everything. Look up that if you want a meaning for my name.

I just checked the wiki page for Fen. A fen is an area of marshland which is highly acidic. There are lots of different flora that live there, mostly mosses and stuff. I think its a bit of a long shot to say that because 1 of 23 listed flora varietys has the word needle in it, then that clue is related to me.

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