EPT[T] MS Paint-Off Mafia
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Better cancel game because we already saw best drawing. | ||
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I also believe this game was pretty town favored but still not as townfavored as the previous game with Damdred and geript being in the game innocent childs. And then you don't write entire essays on why is was unbalanced. Be consequent. Like... This was nothing compared to that. But this game was something new and I prefer this over Cell mafia anyday. It for sure has some balance issues but the idea was pretty fun and it was incredible to be able to be a judge. Great experience!!! I will for sure join another one of these and theorycraft about the balance then. I think the concept is great, and you can change a lot, or a little bit and both would work. I'll try to write something down to recap the judges mindset next. | ||
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ofcourse you could have killed HF N1 anyway but it was a gamble that you lost. | ||
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On August 22 2017 19:09 geript wrote: I thin a mason pair in a mini is far, far more balanced than this setup. 9/10ths of the time in this setup mafia has to leave the towniest guy alive all game while he gets useful roles. If scum Town confirm 1 person, the game becomes almost impossible with this person. The setup completely takes away any strength mafia has to control a game. In a normal setup, I can bus Rayn D1 with his play and go to town using my influence to protect the third mafia player. The mason setup looked OP, but the mafia team was basically MIA and let Town do its thing. haha. Please geript. You can have your opinion but it is wrong. If we ever meet up we can talk about this for 4 hours. There is no way I am wrong about this. 14 players. 2 confirmed town. 1 parity cop. So 4 misslynches in a pool of 11 before you lose. It's like judges that can actually interact with the thread and you are not limited by any shenanigans, making EoD way harder for scum. And we as judges played way way way way better than you guys did in that previous game btw. And we as mafia did a pretty decent job as well. I still don't understand the modconfirmed shit with rayn but HF dropped the ball so fucking hard on the D1 lynch. | ||
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On August 22 2017 19:22 geript wrote: I forgot about parity Cop which was stupidly OP with masons. Masons in a mini is Town favored, but not >65% imo (which is pretty Town favored). Even with the parity Cop, I think it's like 75-80% Town favored. Don't get me wrong, the last game was Town favored, but I don't think it's as much as this setup is. I agree this game was batshit hard for mafia again btw. and with batshit insane games the rolls are so swingy. Like last game having lower activity but good players Damdred/Geript as conf town and then rayn and hf (I think) bossing it up in the thread was pretty fucking insane as well. It was a tandem with reads you couldn't dismiss because they were conf town, and then a tandem of 2 hyper active vets who were controlling the game like crazy and were super activily trying to solve the game. And the cop was rolled on a guy who would never die before night 6 and he knew it... | ||
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On August 22 2017 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: No Koshi, the problem is here is no medic dodge. If you medic dodge in a normal game (correctly), you can shoot the person the next night. Here it's impossible, also there is the fact that if you happen to shoot someone who actually took the vest you will NEVER EVER be able to get rid of the mod confirmed town, unlike in a normal game. you should have always nominated Holyflare and ritoky for D3, that's where you made a mistake. Even if you think they can be mafia you should have always nominated them on D3 for the prize. That's a fact. We should have nominated ritoky I agree. I didn't read a single post that day (and from the lynch before that, I didn't even know who was lynched) because I was with gf and I saw no other judge had a list. So I just remembered superbia saying "We need to look at HF" after the lynch, and removed him from the pool, I didn't think of ritoky, and then just wrote down my townreads. geript kinda never was a real townread for me, I mean one with reaoning. He just popped up there because he played so good. | ||
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On August 22 2017 19:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not really sure what you're trying to say? That last game was imbalanced because town was too good? That's not how balance works, well playing team beats the less well playing. That has nothing to do with if the game is balanced or not. No. I mean that in favored games like this the battering looks even worse if the correct people get the correct roles. I can see this game be more "balanced" with other people on the blues. You guys played very well D2 and the thread and the judges were bamboozled. But due to some skill (Vivax and then Superbia) bossed it up and we hit the perfect scumteam. I think that it could have went different if for example we had somebody who actually scumread CC or TW on the judges. But we never did. | ||
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Then it is business as usual and the imba setup doesn't look imba at all. (also we needed a framer that game) | ||
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On August 22 2017 19:35 Holyflare wrote: What's there not to understand? Rayn got called mafia and when people were piling on he got angry and said he's replacing out. Then he said "the mods won't let me replace." When I see that I don't believe a mafia rayn would replace out for being called mafia. But apparently it was more than that. Still shouldn't ever talk about mod actions and not being able to be replaced though. Ok now I understand. I just never read that. | ||
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On August 22 2017 19:37 Superbia wrote: Shoutout to my fellow judges for being awesome. No you sir! | ||
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On August 22 2017 19:43 Holyflare wrote: The elongated day 1 was annoying. Remove that and have a normal day 1 and mafia don't need to start with a rb cos they can shoot whoever they want. smart | ||
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On August 22 2017 19:45 disformation wrote: do i count as having played in the game? :D Yes. You have another mafia loss on your record. | ||
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On August 22 2017 21:24 Conversion wrote: duly noted btw Koshi, on your big post calling me trash  Meh don't take it personal. I call everybody that once in a while. I was pissed off with the fact I knew rayn was mafia and was pretty sure 1 out of hopeless and fefe were mafia. And then there were people calling the 3 picks bad. 1/3 was pretty ok for a list pre flip. We made a mistake thinking fefe vs h1 was TvM | ||
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