Makes me more suspicious of you. Feel like town!Grack goes hamboni jabroni on Rayn for this shit fight. I've seen you in other games get into shit fights so deep D1 that you get mislynched as doc, but you're always spicy and have a "fuck you" attitude about the fight. You don't feel as "fuck you" here. Seems like you're setting yourself up to have wiggle room with Rayn later or something.

I like Palmar's posts about you. I think Palmar is real town.

Also hi

darthfoley

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May 10 2017 13:21 GMT

#187

On May 10 2017 18:59 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't mind people asking me questions. You're being rude and you know it.

Since when do you just call someone rude and call it a day?

darthfoley

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May 10 2017 13:25 GMT

#188

On May 10 2017 20:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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On further note this is another reason why HF is scum. My interactions with Grack have nothing to do with why he calls me mafia. Therefore there is no reason for these interactions to lessen his scumread on me.

Basically i did thing X which makes me mafia. Then i did Y which in HF's mind lessens the scumminess of thing X. That doesnt make any sense.

I would also like HF to explain how rayn's interaction with Grack made you less suspicious of him given

On May 10 2017 18:02 Holyflare wrote:
Simple facts:

Town rayn finds mafia.
Town rayn determines alignment of good players.
Town rayn super paranoid questions everything and misreads all posts.

Mafia rayn not paranoid.
Mafia rayn town reads half the game on 0 posts.
Mafia rayn's interest to buddy people.
Mafia rayn's interest to shit fight to the extreme.

darthfoley

United States8004 Posts

May 10 2017 13:27 GMT

#189

Does Rayn usually kind of back off like he did with grack when he's town?

darthfoley

United States8004 Posts

May 10 2017 13:28 GMT

#190

On May 10 2017 08:10 Damdred wrote:
Probably right, I missed you and your witty love HF.

I kinda think Rayn is town for a bad reason that has no real basis

Scum scum scummy

darthfoley

United States8004 Posts

May 10 2017 13:30 GMT

#191

Why is damdred in your town pile, rayn?

darthfoley

United States8004 Posts

May 10 2017 13:48 GMT

#196

On May 10 2017 22:44 Holyflare wrote:
But your damdred read is crap because he does stuff like that all the time

I don't like any time someone town reads someone and qualifies it with "it doesn't make sense and it's bad." Especially when that person appears to be scummy ATM

darthfoley

United States8004 Posts

May 11 2017 14:08 GMT

#508

Sorry for "flying under the radar." Yesterday my friends and I drove back from South Carolina and it took 11 hours so I couldn't be particularly active. I'm gonna catch up and actually play today

darthfoley

United States8004 Posts

May 11 2017 14:25 GMT

#511

On May 11 2017 22:28 Holyflare wrote:
You don't plan shenannies, they just happen. I have a few people I'd like to lynch/wouldn't care about flipping though so I'll see how it goes.

Don't actually know when deadline is.

Earlier you said you would only consider TW/rayn and no one else. What's changed to open your mind to others, and who are they?

darthfoley

United States8004 Posts

May 11 2017 14:29 GMT

#512

I also find it ironic that rayn is using mostly a meta read on me while criticizing me for using a meta read on grack. For the record, I'm starting to feel better about Grack. Maybe he shouldn't be the lynch. Probably not actually.

darthfoley

United States8004 Posts

May 11 2017 14:36 GMT

#515

I think HF is probably town. Or he's buddying the shit out of me. He's probably good enough to do either, but I appreciate that he saw the validity in my post on grack. I'm still waiting on a case from him why TW is the lynch.

Idk what to think about rayn. On one hand he feels equally "shutting up the thread and blowing up when someone insinuates he's not the best mafia player of all time," as he does when he's town. On the other, he's doing a terrible push on me that is based off of one post that actually DOES have merit and trying to discredit me for it. Like there are plenty of other question marks in my mind (LS, Damdred, Skynx, fuba to name the major ones) yet he doesn't seem to care about them at all and only goes after me, which is smart if he's mafia because 1) he doesn't know I'll be active today so active rayn > inactive df and I get ML 2) I'm pretty good at not getting mislynched (only happened in the cell game) so killing me D1 is an added ML bonus. I'm starting to feel like HF v rayn could be TvS but I'm a pussy so I'm gonna try to find mafia elsewhere before I commit to that

darthfoley

United States8004 Posts

May 11 2017 14:38 GMT

#516

I'm also feeling that Vivax is decently townie right now but I haven't had the chance to filter dive.

Palmar is starting to make me nervous

darthfoley

United States8004 Posts

May 11 2017 14:39 GMT

#517

If anyone has questions for me, fire away. I'm an open book titled "If ya mislynch me, ya dun goofed." So ask my friends!

darthfoley

United States8004 Posts

May 11 2017 18:46 GMT

#531

On May 11 2017 05:19 Skynx wrote:
I also agree that darthfoley's intro is bad from first impression but I'm gona have to go back on that one.

this is the only thing in your entire filter that indicates you think anyone is scum, but you give yourself an out by saying your opinion could change with a second reading.

vivax is right in the sense that I don't see how you've scum hunted at all this game. you claim that mafia is sitting back and relaxing, yet you come in the thread at a very opportune time to defend yourself and not actively participate in anything else that is going on in the thread.

3 out of 5 of your town reads have a possibility of being lynched (Grack, HF, rayn) yet you do nothing to steer the conversation away from them and onto anyone else.

You have a good chance of being mafia

darthfoley

United States8004 Posts

May 11 2017 18:47 GMT

#532

On May 12 2017 02:39 Holyflare wrote:

Show nested quote +

On May 11 2017 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare you have to understand that inconsistencies do not make people mafia. In fact it is more likely that a townie is inconsistent than that mafia is (this is obviously a case specific thing but especially on D1 and not much to work with it's way more likely that mafia tries to keep their story straight).

##unvote
##vote darthfoley

I am not sure if i can explain this more properly than i have before but i will try.
The thing is Grackaroni answered me regarding my concerns about him. Could he do that as mafia? Would he do that as mafia? Sure he could, most likely would. That doesn't however make him mafia. In fact it is more likely it makes him town because his train of thought follows what he says in his posts there.

Now i wouldn't probably even think df is scum if he didn't make the case in a way that he did. Being wrong or making a wrong conclusion of the above is not necessarily scummy. The point here is what darthfoley does is that he doesn't even evaluate the scumminess of the original act. He just contrasts it to meta and expects the "meta" to strenthen his argument even though he doesn't even have an argument in the first place. In a same way i could say for example the following:
- "Holyflare is scum because he asked why Grack is voting for Palmar and he never asks that as town."

Now who the fuck cares if Holyflare has done it as town before or not when the starting point of the argument is completely ridiculous (aka a thing that is not scummy the slightest)??? What darthfoley did there is he took some random argument, has no conclusion about the argument itself and then just painted it scummy "because Grackaroni doesn't do that as town". Furthermore, with a 100% certainty darthfoley has never ever seen me play with Grackaroni before so there should be no expectations on how Grackaroni should react to something i post as either alignment (there is where even the whole meta bullshit falls apart).

So there is that, now i am off to work.

I don't agree with this premise by the way. I don't think df's post is even a case it's just an off the cuff remark about how grack isn't doing something he is renowned for and that's suspicious. Nothing more, nothing less.

Also this. Calling my one or two comments early D1 on grack a "case" is misrepresentation or blatant misunderstanding.