EPT[M][N] Murder on the Cruise Trip Mafia
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justanothertownie
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On September 21 2016 23:28 Grackaroni wrote: Let this be a study on the effect of Marvellosity on mafia signups. /in | ||
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justanothertownie
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On September 24 2016 06:21 Palmar wrote: No need, mafia is so random, it's like poker. Even consistently good players are just slightly more often right or good than terrible ones, because it's such a marginal game. And no, my comment was sarcastic, there's absolutely nothing wrong with playing in this game as a newbie. Indeed. Bring her back! The thing with the "stacked" list is that many peope on this player list won't be able to put in the same amount of time they did years ago. And there is also marv who has always been shittier. Good thing the other new guys joined. They left a very good first impression. | ||
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On September 28 2016 16:46 Koshi wrote: 10 vs 3 9 vs 3 ml 8 vs 3 nk 7 vs 3 ml 6 vs 3 nk 5 vs 3 ml 4 vs 3 nk into lylo I think that if a 3 men mafia team needs to win after a 5th ml when town didn't play their roles superb is not balanced. I am not sure if both vet getting shot and doc saving 1 person is superb play. Not bad play though. But 5 ml is insane!!! Such a long game as well. Town leaders being alive for a long time. Blueclaims... Not balanced imo. 2 veterans I could live with if rb cancels the vest. It was so last game you hosted so that is fine. 2 docs is imbalanced. 2 vigis I can live with. But pretty insane. 2 cops are maybe even more imbalanced than 2 docs. Random all roles is fun and stuff. But you want to keep your game balanced. Like cop + vigi puts so much pressure on the mafia team to look extremely good. Town gets a lynch, a copcheck and a vigi shot before Day 2. And on Day 2 could potentially claim 2 blue roles (they are unlynchable). That is information on 6 players by the start of D2 in a 13 player game, at least 2 of those are dead. And mafia wins on 3rd ml on 3rd day but still... Maybe introduce a miller? So mafia has an out when they get redchecked. Or a framer instead of gf. Or both. If you really 100% random and have potential double roles on all I think I will out. 2 any roles are always good enough for town with a chance to become batshit crazy. I agree with this guy. He is a balance expert after all. | ||
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On September 28 2016 21:31 beentheredonethat wrote: I was aware of this when I gave my setup to foolishness and specifically asked for how to deal with that. The risk of having setups like vet/doc vs. gf and framer is there but I take this risk as I think that having this possibility in will increase speculations. After all, it's a guessing game.  A guessing game, yeah. But the "guessing" here does not stand for "set up guessing". Randomizing things is generally a good idea but not if it results in a broken game balance. | ||
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justanothertownie
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/confirm | ||
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4 is very swingy. Not sure if it isn't pretty townfavored too. | ||
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On October 01 2016 19:18 marvellosity wrote: Swingy is fine. Town loses a ml if they hit town and don't gain one if they hit mafia Could make the cop parity in setup 4 though Yeah, the lost mislynch is the only reason I wasn't sure. Because like koshi said town possibly gains a lot of information on day2 already. Even if the vig misses you have 1 or 2 (if cop claims) confirmed townies, a question mark erased and a cop check. Not a fan of swingy minis in general but balance wise it might be fine. Especially with a parity cop instead of a regular one. | ||
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On October 02 2016 05:13 marvellosity wrote: tangentially, i've always quite liked the idea of a mafia vigi in 13 player setups when there's a town vigi mafia having an extra shot takes away a ml for town, but then if town vigi hits mafia it's obviously good news anyway, and then if town vigi hits town you don't lose an extra mislynch. i'd play in a 10-3 open setup with one vigi per side That is a quite mafia favored setup. I probably wouldn't play it but to each his own. | ||
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I will have far less time on my hands than I used to spend on mafia games since I got a PhD scholarship and am working on that more than full time now. Do not expect my activity or involvement to be even similar - I have also decided to care far less about this game (we will see if that works at all) because otherwise I can't play anymore. And since the d1 deadline seems to be on a wednesday evening I will almost certainly miss that too. Still looking forward to playing. Really nice playerlist. | ||
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On October 04 2016 15:17 marvellosity wrote: Up to here Intriguing. | ||
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On October 04 2016 15:40 Holyflare wrote: nEVERuNLUCKY probably bs confirmed himself town and koshi is either abusing it and bsing or is also town. Calix bad or mafia for even voting that way. More wishy washy statements on koshi to come. I don't think nu really confirmed himself town here. But on the other hand why bother as mafia? I am eagerly awaiting wishy washy statements on Koshi. | ||
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On October 04 2016 18:34 Koshi wrote: I am dismissing the entire event. A jury in a murder case also has to sometimes dismiss extreme good looking evidence because it is obtained outside the law. I always imagined that was the hardest thing to do and that in reality the jury wouldn't dismiss it at all. But I will completely dismiss it. I encourage the other judges to follow my example. A reasonable stance your honor. | ||
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On October 04 2016 19:02 Calix wrote: He was pretty lurkish, unresponsive and making terrible posts in the last game we were in and he was town so not sure how AI that is for him. Will keep your point in mind though. He is indeed known to lurk and I of course remember that. But especially as a low volume poster your posts should have a purpose. I don't see him getting anywhere or actually being interested in what he says. | ||
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On October 04 2016 19:55 Holyflare wrote: Simply, I find it quite hilarious that someone that proposes they can read NU so well and he's the easiest mafia in the world to spot and that he gets lynched every game day 1 as mafia is trying to shit all over NU this early instead of seeing whether he follows this obvious pattern of play. Is this actually a thing? Calix? Because then your approach is indeed hard to understand. | ||
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On October 04 2016 20:23 marvellosity wrote: nu (he directly asked to be called nu, everyone do it) Way ahead of you bro. | ||
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On October 04 2016 20:42 marvellosity wrote: yes, unfortunately i did read this completely unnecessary pointless post. It's content is pointless. The hostile/aggressive attitude on the other hand is somewhat interesting. | ||
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