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On April 15 2016 22:29 Shapelog wrote: Just to prove to people That I am capable of lurking and not spamming. /in Don't really have time to play, just gotta win this bet I forced Sky into with me  SMDH that is easy to do in a post-restricted game. ##shoot Shapelog | ||
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On April 15 2016 22:41 unholyflare wrote: makes zero difference as KP is factional edit: except maybe in some one mafia lylo situation that will never happen maybe? go me not reading the OP, I just assumed kp was deliverable | ||
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And is it even possible for town to win in a Twitterverse-type game? Scum could pretty much get away with everything >_< | ||
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On April 17 2016 17:52 Fidei86 wrote: /in Looking forward to lynching HTS for realz. James....please die. >_< ##shoot Fidei86 | ||
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On April 18 2016 02:25 Tumblewood wrote: /in if it doesn't start for a few days I'm hoping Tues/Wed at the earliest. | ||
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On April 18 2016 05:36 Damdred wrote: It's ok I'm just lynching you anyway hts for mages >_< ##shoot Damdred | ||
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I'm starting to get the sad realisation that 48h cycles for forum mafia is going to be too difficult with all I have going on going forward, but I figure I'll try a post-restricted game to see how I really fare. 40 posts per cycle is actually really low so catching up with reading should not be a problem thankfully. | ||
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##shoot Shapelog (again) | ||
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On April 19 2016 23:45 Fidei86 wrote: Also, pre-game excuse, I now have a streak of not having been lynched in seven straight games as town. In fact, I've never been lynched in any game, but that doesn't count because I got carried by Rels and Alex/Mage in my two scum games. NSM18 was sad, lord I was pissed at that one. But more importantly how is the above an actual pre-game excuse? It has nothing to do with your availability, thus, you are posting just to post. You sir, are mafia. ##vote Fidei <3 | ||
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Reading through so far, here are my thoughts. Damdred (88/89)/gumshoe (posts 93/95)- townleans, I agree with most of the points said on them thus far. DYH I'm reading post 85/87 I can see those coming from both alignments so I'm going to wait for further comments. Tictock is a townlean for the breakdown in post 112. Seeing a few arguments about people being underwhelming, it's a poor argument to have been made <10h into the game, but that's just me. SL, DYH, GB based on their openers are all people that I'd need to see more content from. SL in particular has both active and lazy town and scum metas. My scum leans so far are Tumbleweed and LightningStrike based on the focus on their posts. I'll go into detail in the next post. Although I get a towny sentiment from Koshi, I also don't understand Koshi's scumreasoning for Fecalfeast, - I skimmed the latter's filter and I see a lot of the lazy Fecalfeast meta, I didn't understand Koshi's words about "town should be grilling sicklucker" when depending on the player it's not necessarily always the case, it was obvious to me that sicklucker was facetious. Additionally, Fecalfeast "not making a difference" is not necessarily exclusively mafia indicative for him. For the games I've played with him, he has both lazy town and mafia metas, but even in his lazy town meta, he will try and do something at some point. We're a bit early in the cycle to pass judgement IMO. To sum it up, Fecalfeast could be mafia but not necessarily for that. | ||
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My concern with Tumbleweed lies in 101 and 110. The gist of it is that he is posting for the sake of posting and the questions are very open-ended with the argument that the information he's getting from it will not be helpful with determining alignments. 101 The comment on Shapelog is clearly answered if he'd read the thread - Shapelog by his own admission said his first five posts - of which one was quoted - was fluff. So he's asking a question already answered. It's possible town can neglect to read carefully but lets proceed to the next point. The comment on Lightning Strike was bad (and this is part of why I this LS could be mafia) - it is townreading LS for a poor reason. LS in the quoted statement says Tictock "blatantly" doesn't want to stir up discussion - Tictock may not want to post if he has nothing to contribute ESPECIALLY in a post-restricted game. So for him to take an NAI point and paint it as mafia indicative is poor, and by extension the townread is poor. 110 Same concern as in 101, non sequitur means illogical (more or less) so placing that expectation within the first few posts of the game is just meh. It seems forced. Moving on to LS, which is easily explained. Post 96 is a poor reason (or at least a weak reason) to townread Gumshoe, or at least the reason he gave. As stated before my bigger concern is with post 101 though, trying to make something that is alignment indicative which isn't necessarily so. | ||
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Voting LightningStrike now. On post 123, I get what you (LS) are trying to say, but regardless of the post-restriction, that does not make him mafia, never mind you failed to notice/observe/whatever his subsequent post, and if you did it hasn't changed your opinion on him. Look at people like sicklucker and Fecalfeast, those two are hanging back to some extent - and Koshi even mentioned the same - so from your perspective why the double standard or at least why not take note of them? | ||
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LS, I drink wine as town and whisky as mafia. Fidei was the one who drinks Sauvignon Blanc after mislynches. Get it right please. On a serious note, though, I'm still concerned you think (confirm/deny????) Tictock could be mafia? Clarify that please? You haven't said jack all on that after it was pointed out. I can buy the point on SL, but Fecalfeast is lazy and has been so as both alignments. I was mafia in Dark Tournament with him - the game which you reference - so I know for a fact his laziness wasn't what made him mafia, it was the manner in which he bussed me after I was (effectively) redchecked. (Mage being the free DT check in that case.) That drew Shining's attention after I flipped not because he was a low-volume poster. As stated, there is still likely Fecalfeast could be mafia but this isn't the reason why. I am going to use other criteria to evaluate him. (NB: Everyone else, I bring this up since LS relies heavily on meta to read people.) Irregardless, I'm not picking at you because you're an "easy" target - there are IMO a number of contentious statements/arguments in your posts that I'm trying to pick out just like I did in SOTW 2. Also I'm confused at best by you referencing the games on yourself - by your own admission you changed your meta very recently, so I'm just trying to take your posts in this game, in isolation and work from there. | ||
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FYI, yes I am (the lone) female in this game. On April 20 2016 23:57 Tumblewood wrote: Shape is dangerously close to a "disappointing answers" scumread. HtS is throwing me off because he's (she's?) scumreading me and LS and those are the only two people I'm thinking are town so far. The arguments feel a bit stretched but so is everything at this stage. Null for now but will become a scumread if this continues. Why is LS town? Aside from (potentially) myself, and Shape as mentioned, as scumreads, Tumbleweed, why are you not townreading or leaning some of the others? Particularly Damdred, Koshi and Tictock and the content that they've produced? At the very least I'm curious to hear on this. Are you actually scumreading anyone else? Additionally, are you suggesting that how I am scumreading you is coming from a scum point of view? I have never played with you before so that is what I tend to do with unfamiliar players if I find something questionable. | ||
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Shapelog, I'll rephrase the question. Tumbleweed, on the basis you townread LS (and I argued why it was poor), why couldn't that same critieria also come from mafia? That is mainly what I was trying to get at. I feel the bases for all his reads are pretty weak and I just don't know if that's his style (which you are contending) or whether he's actually mafia, the posts seem scummy to me. Also regarding post 134, the inset is part of the reason I scumread LS, double standard. Also just because I vote someone doesn't mean it's final. If I have reason to second guess my thinking or I find a better lynch I can always unvote. | ||
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