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I'm /in as junior but only if you need me (i.e. if you do the original setup). I don't have tons of time and activity might be low.
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Hi guys! I've decided to not post in this thread until Koshi has posted in our QTs.
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On March 01 2016 01:28 qob wrote:please read this Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 00:09 Shapelog wrote:On February 29 2016 23:55 qob wrote:
@Shape it wasnt his joke, it was his "advice" that makes me susp. So this post right? On February 29 2016 12:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
1 lurker + 1 active is definitely a scum trait this game. It's a cheap way to limit information (only have one gut player to go off of) while still having the team participate and influence decisions (second player contributing by QT). With the follow up of: On February 29 2016 13:00 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On February 29 2016 12:57 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On February 29 2016 12:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
1 lurker +1 active is definitely a scum trait this game. It's a cheap way to limit information (only have one gut player to go off of) while still having the team participate and influence decisions (second player contributing by QT). Disagree unless it's intentional. I don't think lurking is any scummier than in normal games. 1 active and 1 lurker is less Scummy than 2 lurkers, 2 lurkers is very Scummy because it makes it less likely that the lurking is due to irl, and more likely that it is due to the stresses of being scum. I did mean intentional lurking, but otherwise I actually agree with you. If you look at what I bolded in the 1st quoted post. I admit, there is something weird with the timing of that. Since Team Koshi posted a feel moments before: On February 29 2016 10:44 Koshi wrote:
I have decided to not post in this thread but just post in our QT. I am not sure what to think about it tbh. It feels a bit too coincidental that UON mentions a scum trait that fits one teams play style. On the same page. Maybe he was trying to respond to it? But no one was really raising a eye at it and in that case he would post "Team Koshi...." That is the post
Qob, how would you compare Sentinel's entry posts to your own teammate, Sandroba, his entry posts?
Did you realize FF is Sentinel's partner?
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On March 01 2016 01:35 Spikasaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 01:28 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 01 2016 01:27 Shapelog wrote:
I do wonder how much nutritional value a Blahvacado has. Well if we're going by content then he's about as nutritious as stale cardboard... Same for us all at the moment, no? Game hasn't really picked up yet.
Talking about one lurker + one active, you have any town or scum leans, Spike?
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On March 01 2016 01:47 qob wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 01:36 Felkyr wrote:On March 01 2016 01:28 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 00:03 Damdred wrote:
Which advice did you think was scummy? please read this On March 01 2016 00:09 Shapelog wrote:On February 29 2016 23:55 qob wrote:
@Shape it wasnt his joke, it was his "advice" that makes me susp. So this post right? On February 29 2016 12:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
1 lurker + 1 active is definitely a scum trait this game. It's a cheap way to limit information (only have one gut player to go off of) while still having the team participate and influence decisions (second player contributing by QT). With the follow up of: On February 29 2016 13:00 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On February 29 2016 12:57 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On February 29 2016 12:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
1 lurker +1 active is definitely a scum trait this game. It's a cheap way to limit information (only have one gut player to go off of) while still having the team participate and influence decisions (second player contributing by QT). Disagree unless it's intentional. I don't think lurking is any scummier than in normal games. 1 active and 1 lurker is less Scummy than 2 lurkers, 2 lurkers is very Scummy because it makes it less likely that the lurking is due to irl, and more likely that it is due to the stresses of being scum. I did mean intentional lurking, but otherwise I actually agree with you. If you look at what I bolded in the 1st quoted post. I admit, there is something weird with the timing of that. Since Team Koshi posted a feel moments before: On February 29 2016 10:44 Koshi wrote:
I have decided to not post in this thread but just post in our QT. I am not sure what to think about it tbh. It feels a bit too coincidental that UON mentions a scum trait that fits one teams play style. On the same page. Maybe he was trying to respond to it? But no one was really raising a eye at it and in that case he would post "Team Koshi...." That is the post Qob, how would you compare Sentinel's entry posts to your own teammate, Sandroba, his entry posts? Did you realize FF is Sentinel's partner? Sandroba's entry post? Like, for the thread or the game? No im focusing on Sentinel rn, not this FF person.
The game... Please answer the question.
Regardless of it being a good opening post or not, do you agree with Sentinel's statement in it (1 lurker + 1 active = scummy)?
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On March 01 2016 01:47 qob wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 01:36 Felkyr wrote:On March 01 2016 01:28 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 00:03 Damdred wrote:
Which advice did you think was scummy? please read this On March 01 2016 00:09 Shapelog wrote:On February 29 2016 23:55 qob wrote:
@Shape it wasnt his joke, it was his "advice" that makes me susp. So this post right? On February 29 2016 12:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
1 lurker + 1 active is definitely a scum trait this game. It's a cheap way to limit information (only have one gut player to go off of) while still having the team participate and influence decisions (second player contributing by QT). With the follow up of: On February 29 2016 13:00 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On February 29 2016 12:57 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On February 29 2016 12:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
1 lurker +1 active is definitely a scum trait this game. It's a cheap way to limit information (only have one gut player to go off of) while still having the team participate and influence decisions (second player contributing by QT). Disagree unless it's intentional. I don't think lurking is any scummier than in normal games. 1 active and 1 lurker is less Scummy than 2 lurkers, 2 lurkers is very Scummy because it makes it less likely that the lurking is due to irl, and more likely that it is due to the stresses of being scum. I did mean intentional lurking, but otherwise I actually agree with you. If you look at what I bolded in the 1st quoted post. I admit, there is something weird with the timing of that. Since Team Koshi posted a feel moments before: On February 29 2016 10:44 Koshi wrote:
I have decided to not post in this thread but just post in our QT. I am not sure what to think about it tbh. It feels a bit too coincidental that UON mentions a scum trait that fits one teams play style. On the same page. Maybe he was trying to respond to it? But no one was really raising a eye at it and in that case he would post "Team Koshi...." That is the post Qob, how would you compare Sentinel's entry posts to your own teammate, Sandroba, his entry posts? Did you realize FF is Sentinel's partner? Sandroba's entry post? Like, for the thread or the game? No im focusing on Sentinel rn, not this FF person.
I'm more bothered by the fact that Qob says he's focusing on Sentinel but he doesn't even know who his teammate is or does any effort in actually understanding the context of his (couple of) posts. Qob's opening post was just lousy; I don't think he was focused on Sentinel at all, he was just trying too hard to find something of value to post about.
I didn't like his rant against Marv either but I don't think it's AI.
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On March 01 2016 04:05 Race Bannon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 03:10 Felkyr wrote:.
I didn't like his rant against Marv either but I don't think it's AI. It's definitely AI. However at this juncture I wouldn't know how to argue in favor of it being AI here specifically, nor how to follow through with the actual reduction process. Your determination to declare it otherwise seems out of place notwithstanding, so help me understand how something that's either faked by mafia or real when a townie does it is not AI.
I misinterpreted Marv's earlier post:
On March 01 2016 01:56 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 01:55 qob wrote:
lol wtf is this shit marvel is doing.
Can we just play the game, i know im new and stuff but this is pretty retarded.
Jumping through multiple hoops is pointless. Idc about other games, i just want to play mafia my man. i'm making a point (or not) to sentinel. what's it to you, bumfluff? this is mafia.
Thought he meant Qob's play was mafia. I think it can come from either alignment, so I said I don't think it makes him mafia, which I called (maybe incorrectly) 'not AI'.
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So, based on this:
On March 01 2016 08:10 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 08:05 Tictock wrote:On March 01 2016 08:02 Koshi wrote:On March 01 2016 08:01 Koshi wrote:
Ok maybe VE is mafia after all. I'll reconsider. For the record. I still firmly believe he is most likely town. Mafia is still marv. I know you said it's hard to explain, but why is Marv mafia? Kus he said you'd do stuff if you are town? This is how I could explain it, it's not really good explained but that's kinda it: I think marv is mafia because he is hedging. The post I quoted for instance, he knows I am an easy misslynch atm, he knows Rels is pushing me, so when Sentinel says I am town, he just discredits me by saying "I am obvious town when I am town" which is perfect because when I am obvious town he can just decide to ignore me as mafia. And when I am not being obvious town he just planted this little seed in the head of a person who has me as town. Mafia type play. Normally marv uses that sentence in a totally other context. It is just bad here. He didn't help anybody writing that down. Just like he didn't help anybody writing down those 3 quotes from a game in which I was mafia. He is just planting seeds. Nowhere in marv his filter he has me as mafia. He is just suggesting it very shadowly. Which is very unlike marv.
And the fact that Spikasaur is totally useless:
On March 01 2016 01:58 Spikasaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 01:44 Felkyr wrote:On March 01 2016 01:35 Spikasaur wrote:On March 01 2016 01:28 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 01 2016 01:27 Shapelog wrote:
I do wonder how much nutritional value a Blahvacado has. Well if we're going by content then he's about as nutritious as stale cardboard... Same for us all at the moment, no? Game hasn't really picked up yet. Talking about one lurker + one active, you have any town or scum leans, Spike? No leans really. Come back soon when there's been further progression?
Nothing ever happened... (read his filter, seems horrible to me)
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On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me.
Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense.
On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either.
Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself.
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On March 01 2016 22:55 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 22:53 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something.
So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. @SENT what is he hiding? Just the fact that he's scum or something more to this? From what I know, UON believes he is hiding something due to contradictions or something like that. Most notable his joke.
Hi Shape, you seem to be following the thread well and said you would get active in the last 24h of the day. Do you have any reads so far cause I've not really found anything in your filter? You comment a lot on the posts but haven't posted on your progression in finding scum.
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On March 01 2016 23:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
What the actual fuck is mafia on mafia supposed to mean. Answer my question.
Anyways, I have to kill an exam but I'll be back later in the day. If you aren't already, please continue sheeping me until that point. It improves the quality of my reads when I see people being wrong.
Koshi thinks Marv is scum. He also thought that the 'three-quote game' Marv played with you could never come from scum-scum interactions. Hence, you are not scum. However, I pointed out that those interactions can come from scum-scum so you can still be scum when Marv is scum.
That being said, I think FF/Sentinel is a good lynch. There are other newbies who are not doing well at all, but I think FF has been the most useless veteran so far. The combination of the two is just horrible. They need to post more before EOD.
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On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point. Show nested quote +Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote. Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too.
Even if he didn't check the meta beforehand, it all feels very fabricated and unnatural to me. He seems too eager to disregard his earlier post an explain himself. Also look at this:
On March 01 2016 03:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 03:01 Damdred wrote:
I actually think its a good newbie tactic especially given they are paired up with someone to seem upset. Well especially if koshi is the other pair of mafia at least.
But thats to associative for me. I still think the anger is misplaced and not really going along to see where you are going made me go hm. Btw i take it koshi was scum in all those Yup, it's The Mafia Awakens if I'm not mistaken. Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 03:00 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. What a foolish statement, i only speak facts, the sooner you realize this the sooner you'll save yourself from embarrassment. You're still doing it.
Now he really did check all the games and he counted the ones where Koshi was Mafia. He must know which game it was. Just feels a bit off to me, as if he's trying to overcompensate for his error. For your silly game, he went totally overboard. Stressed?
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On March 01 2016 23:56 marvellosity wrote:
like i just don't think this sentinel/FF thing is a gimme at all, and i kinda want to talk to sandroba about it.
FF doesn't totally struggle to post as mafia. I rather think if he felt some responsibility as mafia he would try posting a bit more. I think as town he might just do whatever the fuck he wants and come back and do things when he feels like it.
so i'm not jumping on anything.
Would you vote for FF/Sentinel if they don't post more before the EOD?
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On March 01 2016 21:52 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 20:48 Spikasaur wrote:On March 01 2016 20:29 Koshi wrote:
This is what happened at the Faerie House.
Spikasaur: OMG marv my darling, this brilliant player named Koshi from the Team Koshi is on to us. O Lord. What shall we do?
marvellosity: Darling don't worry your pretty head. Even though Koshi is a brilliant player, we got to discredit him. Just call him bad. Just type some random stuff. Just try not to scumclaim.
Spikasaur: Ok I will try.
*5 seconds later*
Spikasaur: Woops, I think I scumslipped.
marvellosity: It's ok my darling, I got this covered, I am going to call him mafia.
Spikasaur: But what should I do darling? I have done what you asked and popped in 10 pages to show activity. But this brilliant and extremely talented Koshi always asks me these hard questions though, I don't know how to answer them.
marvellosity: just type random things sweetie, and try to brush off that scumslip like it was nothing. Act dumb. I am going to read the game and call some obvious townies town to try to get them on my good side.
***To be continued*** Speaking with Marv, apparently you're always a cunt when you play as town, because you're too pussy to be one when mafia. I guess this could further that. Town. Marv gave this as a reason to townread Koshi later so it's 100% true htey communicated on that. They have little reason to communicate on marv's reason to townread Koshi if they are scum.
Rels, I'm assume you have other reasons to put Marv/Spike in your town-list but I don't think this should be one of them. I can very easily see Marv saying this to Spike even when they are Mafia. They know each other IRL...
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On March 01 2016 23:21 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@marv, both cow and damdred have made decent deep thought posts.
I think you may be sheeping outdated sandroba feels.
Can I interest you in a sent lynch?
You say Damdred has made decent posts, but his one post that was actually trying to do something you called out as a scum-slip:
On March 01 2016 12:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 11:50 Damdred wrote:Actually yes I was sort of waiting for FF to respond to me in serousness but hes not, and this is the reasoning behind why I asked FF his read on QOB. There are a couple of mindsets that you have as town in a game when someone comes after you, like qob is doing to FF. 1) This person is scum trying to discredit me or try to get a mislynch on me. 2) This person after careful consideration is town whos in a tunnel, but they are still town. Generally especially early in the game mindset one is really prominent especially when information isn't as readily available. Here is what FF said On March 01 2016 08:53 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 01 2016 08:50 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
qob why are you being so arrogant? For a player of my stature im being quite humble. I mean, i have found scum, why would i not try to expose them? Please, this is Mafia 101 my friend. Except you have not found scum so your arrogance is misplaced FF instead of trying to figure out QOB alignment or even divulge his read on him automatically takes mindset two. It is hinted at strongly by the sentence structure and how he says it, he sees QOB as being misguided and scum can't be misguided for going after a towny, only a town can be misguided. So FF townreads QOB for going after his team in Sent and FF. I wanted FF to explain his townread, becuase my initial feelings is that FF is scum who slipped because he knows he deserves the pressure. This point is kind of scumslip like. My problem with this is experiential rather than theoretical. I've scumread people who have said stuff like this in the same paragraph as nullreading someone, and they turned out to be town. So I don't think it means he actually has a townread on quob.
Can you elaborate more on your Damdred read (which posts do you think were good?) cause I have difficulty reading him.
Also, you said you like TheCows post:
On March 01 2016 22:46 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:damdred/thecow
thecow is being tight-lipped for the most part. I checked this out: Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 05:44 TheCow wrote:
#243-244 appears to be an attempt to discredit the attack against Sentinel -- his partner. Leveraging the style of qob as well as his newness to sidestep the read. He's talking about these quotes: Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 02:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
qob is new but trying hard to throw scum on my partner because he was aggresive and voted me.
Wowie Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 02:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
I like that you're trying qob but you're off to a bad start I think it's a smart way to describe what FF is doing. As for damdred, he's reading the thread closely so that gives him townpoints. Verdict: town enough
But you missed his other post significant post:
On March 01 2016 08:15 TheCow wrote:
sandroba did not understand the point of my post and voted for me. qob feels town to me, and because I know how to read him, I am reading the slot as town.
sandroba himself is scummy for reasons I implied earlier.
I don't like this post at all. Even is Sandroba is mistaken about the point of TheCow's post, Sandroba's post was good and the pressure on TheCow is justified. So his reason to find Sandroba scummy is very weak in my opinion, but he does so regardless. It's just a bad reaction to being called out. However! He can read Qob and he feels town, so the slot must be town, right? But! Sandroba is still scummy, because of that one reaction post. He is trying to discredit Sandroba's post by calling it scummy, but at the same time doesn't dare to call him scum. Not a real defense and no progression either.
Do you not agree that this post is bad? Why did you leave it out of your analysis?
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On March 02 2016 00:59 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 00:44 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 02 2016 00:40 Shapelog wrote:On March 02 2016 00:17 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
You're welcome for saving you from having to read Shapelog. No you didn't. They still read my name. Try better. i meant giving a read on your alignment, which is impossible :p Pfffff, I can self meta myself. Is Shapelog Shit posting? If yes ->Is Shapelog pushing Town agenda? if yes, Mafia if no, Town If No, is he posting WOT's and being town read? if yes, Mafia if no, Town. 
I thought you were working on some reads for me? Is that too town-agenda to fit your meta?
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On March 02 2016 01:02 Shapelog wrote:@At Felk. Kush in 1st post was talking about FF Show nested quote +
"So FF townreads QOB for going after his team in Sent and FF. I wanted FF to explain his townread, becuase my initial feelings is that FF is scum who slipped because he knows he deserves the pressure." -Damdred
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"This point is kind of scumslip like. My problem with this is experiential rather than theoretical. I've scumread people who have said stuff like this in the same paragraph as nullreading someone, and they turned out to be town. So I don't think it means he actually has a townread on quob." -Kush
I let my partner explain the rest since he would know more.
I obviously can't read long walls of text and stay focused... Sorry.
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On March 02 2016 01:07 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 08:15 TheCow wrote:
sandroba did not understand the point of my post and voted for me. qob feels town to me, and because I know how to read him, I am reading the slot as town.
sandroba himself is scummy for reasons I implied earlier. yeah this post doesn't really make sense. Contradictions that are super obvious don't make me scumread people though. I read it as sandroba being scummy because he voted thecow without understanding the cow's post (the one about philosophy).
I think Sandroba understood TheCows post very well and I fail to see why TheCow would think otherwise. Sure, maybe Sandroba's conclusion about him being scum is incorrect but that's just early pushing. I feel like TheCow's overall reaction and mindset is more likely to come from mafia than town, regardless of the contradiction in the post itself.
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On March 02 2016 01:18 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 01:15 Felkyr wrote:On March 02 2016 01:07 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 01 2016 08:15 TheCow wrote:
sandroba did not understand the point of my post and voted for me. qob feels town to me, and because I know how to read him, I am reading the slot as town.
sandroba himself is scummy for reasons I implied earlier. yeah this post doesn't really make sense. Contradictions that are super obvious don't make me scumread people though. I read it as sandroba being scummy because he voted thecow without understanding the cow's post (the one about philosophy). I think Sandroba understood TheCows post very well and I fail to see why TheCow would think otherwise. Sure, maybe Sandroba's conclusion about him being scum is incorrect but that's just early pushing. I feel like TheCow's overall reaction and mindset is more likely to come from mafia than town, regardless of the contradiction in the post itself. Sandroba: "w/e that means"=he doesn't understand it
That's not the same... I think he very well understood what TheCow was saying, he just dismisses it as being crap. Still doesn't change the nature of TheCow's reaction though.
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On March 02 2016 01:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Actually thecow was referring to a specific discussion he didnt' think was useful when he talked about "philosophy": Show nested quote +On February 29 2016 10:17 Damdred wrote:
Depends on the circumstances.
My general philosophy after some headaches is lynch when we have a cc situation otherwise let mafia deal with it during the night.
If it's late in game it's best to,ignore the claim and parse them from what they did during the game. Obviously probably will have a cc in this situation.
How do you come to that conclusion? I don't think that is true. But even if it is true, again, it doesn't change anything about TheCow's reaction. That was only one part of Sandroba's post.
Why are you defending TheCow like this?
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