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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 02 2016 16:45 GMT
#16
/replace

Goddamnit I want to play in a game with HTS so I can lynch her again xD
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-03 13:04:06
February 03 2016 13:03 GMT
#52
If I join as the 17th player, she will make this a 17-player game. The question is whether I should join to troll the shit out of disformation.

edit: Actually why not. I can't troll HTS so I'll troll scumformation instead.

/in
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-03 14:16:05
February 03 2016 14:15 GMT
#73
Well it is his significant other, I would think someone would know well enough to make that judgment.

Besides, there's never any harm in getting anyone to try, all they can say is no.

On February 03 2016 22:41 disformation wrote:
Would take Vig, too, just to shoot NM N1.


Not happening if you get policy lynched d1.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 03 2016 14:18 GMT
#74
Also on the movie itself, was there anyone here who did NOT like Star Wars? A surprising number of people I knew were disappointed, and that's not counting the people that were whining about Han Solo.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 03 2016 14:20 GMT
#76
On February 02 2016 23:35 Half the Sky wrote:
Poe Dameron

[image loading]

He can fly anything and blast anyone away. He may blast one player of his choosing at night.

General Hux

[image loading]

The ruthless commander of the Starkiller base squad, General Hux wields a powerful gun he can use to assassinate any one player of his choosing.


So if these guys get roleblocked when they shoot, they get their bullets back right?
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-03 16:23:33
February 03 2016 16:23 GMT
#107
On February 03 2016 23:22 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2016 23:20 NocturneMage wrote:
On February 02 2016 23:35 Half the Sky wrote:
Poe Dameron

[image loading]

He can fly anything and blast anyone away. He may blast one player of his choosing at night.

General Hux

[image loading]

The ruthless commander of the Starkiller base squad, General Hux wields a powerful gun he can use to assassinate any one player of his choosing.


So if these guys get roleblocked when they shoot, they get their bullets back right?

Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 23:35 Half the Sky wrote:
Game Mechanics and Setup

7 Vigilante bullets are not refundable if roleblocked or shot into protection.



Somehow I missed this...derp.

Also disformation on that list of 40 things, I'd have to agree Han carrying them was pretty lame...but a number of those gripes aren't really plot holes or could be explained in other films. IDK. Like #40 yeah a lot of shit was on repeat but it didn't really bother me as much. I know some of the diehards complained about how the film was put together, tbf, I think the next two episodes have different directors/producers, so whatever, it might be different next go. Abrams isn't doing dick all after this I think.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 03 2016 16:25 GMT
#109
On February 04 2016 00:47 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 00:33 disformation wrote:
On February 04 2016 00:11 disformation wrote:
Cool. < 25% to roll scum. Really would like to roll town, so I like those odds. xD

Feeling incredible stupid. Been too long since I have worked with probabilities, but I feel this is kinda inaccurate. Will maybe ponder this further.

You should have stayed silent.


He probably didn't have enough coffee Koshi.

(If you don't get it, you'd have to reference the PYP obs qt.)
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 03 2016 18:52 GMT
#128
On February 04 2016 03:45 darthfoley wrote:
Also, might've missed it somewhere in the OP, but what's the rebel/first order # breakdown? 17/5 or 18/6?


For a 17-player game it is always 13:4, and anything above 13 players will probably have more than 1kp in there somewhere.

For 20 players or more there are generally 5 scum players and after that, it's mainly on the hosts to adjust the kp so that the game is balanced.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 03 2016 18:53 GMT
#129
On February 04 2016 03:12 darthfoley wrote:
may the force be with you


....unless you roll dark side.

On February 04 2016 03:51 disformation wrote:
Mh. Actually the problem might be dehydration. Drank a lot of water and feeling way better. Will take a short nap after dinner so I can play for a bit when the game starts.
May the RNGesus be with you.


##shoot disformation

Joking, though I am glad to hear you are feeling better.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 03 2016 18:55 GMT
#130
oh lord, Moosy is in this game?

LOL disformation, forget me trolling you, looks like you'll have your hands full!
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 04 2016 03:34 GMT
#262
yo....

up a bit late but let's see what I can get out of the first few pages before I crash

page 9/10

Zyrre - says he's town in the opening salve and then apparently bails. Don't know the guy, seems new to the forums. He could have gotten something of the rest of page 9 or at least something behind but didn't. For now a light scum lean. Contrast that with marvellosity who just checked in and I got a "whatever" vibe from him. Mind you it's late for both of them, so IDK.

ritoky I'm feeling town from the way he's interrogating disformation.

The Damdred/disformation interaction appears based on meta - I will defer to something else to read them (I don't like using meta I'm not sure of).

Don't have good reads on either Palmar/Noon/DF pages 9/10.

Koshi's behaviour through page 11 can come from either alignment.

Don't like VayneAuthority's post 238 asking Damdred's methodology. Why can't he just separate the pre-game whatever and judge what Damdred has actually done? Seems a bit forced there.

No good read on JAT either. Latter is saying he wants to hang back on day 1. Reactive games are usually a scum tell for someone I don't know that well, but he's not new either it seems. Not sure if this is his normal meta.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 04 2016 03:48 GMT
#264
Regarding the point about disformation noticing people making noted comments and then bailing, zyrre being one of them, my only issue with that post is his lack of differentiation between Zyrre and the others - there were some differences imo - but that's not an issue that ncessarily makes him scum. Noting that for Zyrre alone is a towny trait though.

Also I got the same impression as ritoky - what alignment indicative information is disformation getting from me in asking my opinion on meta reads? Does he mean MY meta reads on others or others' meta reads on people?

I think from a contextual standpoint I can guess why he's asking me this question but aside from trying to gauge whose meta to judge or trying to get me to compare someone playing now (which is bad this early in d1) - one of which I've already commented on - I don't see how that question "adds" to the game or how I see things presently.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 04 2016 03:50 GMT
#265
On February 04 2016 12:44 Damdred wrote:
Nm why would you need to rely on someone else read on me when you generally have a decent read on me exactly?

Darths posts aren't that bad I think you guys should give him some space to react under no pressure since he is a newbie I believe


I'm looking at the interactions between disformation and you - I was trying to answer for myself whether his read on you was scummy/trustworthy, not my read on you. You are looking okay I think so far.

I'm trying to take a closer look at disformation.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 04 2016 04:07 GMT
#271
On February 04 2016 13:00 disformation wrote:
still bed still phone still bad:
mage i dont really dig your list. too much inconclusive stuff i am not sure why you bothered to add it.
not answering my question makes me like you even less. but fine if you need some help with that ill dig some stuff up when i am not in bed and at my pc.


Yes there was a reason I didn't answer it.

On February 04 2016 12:48 NocturneMage wrote:
Regarding the point about disformation noticing people making noted comments and then bailing, zyrre being one of them, my only issue with that post is his lack of differentiation between Zyrre and the others - there were some differences imo - but that's not an issue that ncessarily makes him scum. Noting that for Zyrre alone is a towny trait though.

Also I got the same impression as ritoky - what alignment indicative information is disformation getting from me in asking my opinion on meta reads? Does he mean MY meta reads on others or others' meta reads on people?

I think from a contextual standpoint I can guess why he's asking me this question but aside from trying to gauge whose meta to judge or trying to get me to compare someone playing now (which is bad this early in d1) - one of which I've already commented on - I don't see how that question "adds" to the game or how I see things presently.


If you mean MY meta reads, I try and stick to people that I play a bit more often with. And even then I'm under the 10 or wahtever game threshold to really make that a great read, so I generally defer to other shit.
If you mean others' meta reads on people I don't really trust them, and I use interactions or other ways of evaluating people.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 04 2016 04:11 GMT
#272
On February 04 2016 13:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
nocturnemage probably scum, that post is str8 up garbage. i have to check his past games I guess


No because you are scumreading me for something that don't make me mafia. Your side of the exchange was a grand total of two posts, the second of which was meta - under normal circumstances defensiveness is usually a scummy trait. You not saying it explicitly then was odd to me (no conclusion from the reaction test or his response to it).
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 04 2016 04:13 GMT
#275
On February 04 2016 13:00 disformation wrote:
still bed still phone still bad:
mage i dont really dig your list. too much inconclusive stuff i am not sure why you bothered to add it.
not answering my question makes me like you even less. but fine if you need some help with that ill dig some stuff up when i am not in bed and at my pc.


Here's a hint - contrast my null reads with some of the other reads on some of those same people.

As in, I cannot see what is so town. Palmar was aggressive IIRC as scum in Outlaw and somewhere in this thread there was a townread on him for aggressive tone. To me that isn't alignment indicative.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 04 2016 15:48 GMT
#526
On February 05 2016 00:25 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 00:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
you are really nitpicking rels, it is highly unlikely JAT is scum here.

can whoever is here look at nocturnemage? I cant believe he never posted again zZ

Yep I said the same like 5 posts ago. That won't stop me from calling out illogical things I see.
I'm waiting for NM to answer something that didn't make sense from his PoV unless I'm missing something.


First comment a bit ironic coming from VA as someone also not posting much in comparison but I digress.

IRL I'm quite busy most of today tbh but I will be on much later tonight to catch up again and drop some thoughts. Should be a bit more active tomorrow (Friday). It is what it is.

To answer Rels, though the time of my first catchup I did not talk about DF because he had posted in some of the latter pages (~page 11-12+) and regarding the people bailing, I knew they bailed because I also double checked their filters in conjunction with their activity in the thread. (I had multiple tabs open - when I am in catchup mode, I try to track both ensuing conversation as well as what I'm reading.)

Although others had commented on Zyrre, what stuck to me about Zyrre is that he explicitly said he was town and left. The others didn't.

VA's first post when I first read it jumped out as a lame excuse to me for calling someone mafia that didn't make someone necessarily mafia. There's nothing wrong to me making town reads (or forming a "town circle" as others might put it) or trying to do so and then proceeding from there. Especially that early in the game there's not a whole lot to go off of where you can have a reliable scum read. That's why I felt that entry was forced.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 04 2016 16:08 GMT
#535
On February 05 2016 01:01 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 00:48 NocturneMage wrote:
On February 05 2016 00:25 Rels wrote:
On February 05 2016 00:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
you are really nitpicking rels, it is highly unlikely JAT is scum here.

can whoever is here look at nocturnemage? I cant believe he never posted again zZ

Yep I said the same like 5 posts ago. That won't stop me from calling out illogical things I see.
I'm waiting for NM to answer something that didn't make sense from his PoV unless I'm missing something.

VA's first post when I first read it jumped out as a lame excuse to me for calling someone mafia that didn't make someone necessarily mafia. There's nothing wrong to me making town reads (or forming a "town circle" as others might put it) or trying to do so and then proceeding from there. Especially that early in the game there's not a whole lot to go off of where you can have a reliable scum read. That's why I felt that entry was forced.

You don't think that anymore ?


Read the exchange I had with him about cherry picking. The first post jumped out at me for scummy reasons. When I read the Damdred/VA exchange in full he looked worse IMO. He claimed a reaction test but didn't make a conclusion in the exchange itself - it took my intervention before he said "btw he's town" (paraphrasing).

The whole thing just struck me as odd from a town side of things especially when (ignoring meta) being defensive for most people is generally a scummy trait.

And current page, I also can't understand the rationale he's discussing when there is a strongman shot that can be used anytime, but that's a separate point.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 04 2016 16:14 GMT
#536
If I can get a spare hour/half hour in somewhere I'll try and catch up otherwise I'll return later tonight.

And as far as being overlooked I don't think I'm the only one who felt in a similar vein - IIRC ritoky (who I am townreading atm) felt to say something of your scum meta that you don't call people town/mafia right away when you are mafia. He used a meta argument, mind you but isolating that exchange, it isn't unreasonable to question why you aren't drawing a conclusion straightaway from that reaction test.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 04 2016 17:07 GMT
#554
Got a breather.

Alright, clearly I'm doing a terrible job explaining this because no one is understanding what I'm trying to say here. Going to try and refer post by post if that helps:

First, Rels, my issue is not the townread. It's how he stated it and his tone in coming about it (post 238). Try and see this from the perspective of someone who's not played with this guy before. If I'm being bad or nitpicky, whatever I'm just pointing something that looked off.

After Damdred responds, he's said he's kidding (post 241) then why would you say "I just wanted to see if you reacted defensively" as if he IS trying to get something out of that?

That's what I put emphasis on. That's why just reading it, I expected a conclusion.

And then only in post 266, he STATES that (presumably) based on meta Damdred is town. Why would you expect me to know that when I'm first reading it. Based on what you said, I POSTED after it, yes but that's because I was catching up.

Damdred being defensive = town - generally I associate defensiveness with being scummy but my issue was that he didn't state ANY conclusion in post 241. He stated A conclusion after the fact.

Does this at least make a little more sense now?
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