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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 05 2016 23:09 GMT
#27
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 09 2016 23:03 GMT
#48
hi everybody!
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 09 2016 23:26 GMT
#52
On February 10 2016 08:24 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I will be smurf hunting primarily and scum hunting secondarily.


Bring it on!

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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 09 2016 23:44 GMT
#57
On February 10 2016 08:35 Wartrukk wrote:
Fecalfeast has canada on his profile so you calling it 'the US' leads me to believe you're from europe.

I'm thinking scum


Hey, there's no need to insult Russia like that!

On February 10 2016 08:35 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I thought about it more. More likely you are Ticktock.

keanuisgod has a funny handle and has already posted a relevant and funny image. So I guess keanuisgod is actually ritoky.


How do we know you are NOT actually Ticktock or Fecalfest, accusing others of being them just to get the scent off you? I'm watching you closely ...

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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 10 2016 01:35 GMT
#69
On February 10 2016 10:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 08:56 Wartrukk wrote:
On February 10 2016 08:41 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On February 10 2016 08:35 Wartrukk wrote:
Fecalfeast has canada on his profile so you calling it 'the US' leads me to believe you're from europe.

I'm thinking scum


You are thinking I'm scum? Why's that?

Town objective: Find scum

Your objective: Find smurf identities


I said my secondary objective was to find scum, didn't I?


Yeah you're right.
For instance, my first objective is to chew bubblegum, and my second objective is to find scum... and I'm all out of bubblegum

...

oh wait I have one piece left, nevermind.
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 10 2016 01:57 GMT
#75
Okay, the bubblegum is gone (srs), so let's get to it!

On February 10 2016 10:40 Wartrukk wrote:
So saying you're going to out smurfs, I say I think that's scummy (I still do) and after you go about trying to out smurfs you come back to my post and say "Joke phase lol"

Yeah, I'm the one fabricating reads, right?


I can see trying to out smurfs as a "Palmar-like" plan. After all, meta analysis is a (useful) tool town uses pretty often, and to do that you need to know who you are talking to. For example, if you can figure out an inactive lurker is actually a vet, you'd likely change your stance on him, comparing to you not knowing who he is.
These kind of plans aren't usually "scummy" nor "townie" (though there are some exceptions); they just are, specially in games with special characteristics that allow these kind of plans to emerge (like themed games)

Though I guess it kind of fights against the fun of this kind of game (i.e nobody knowing each other at all throughout all game, allowing shenanigans to happen).

Anyways, this seems like usual D1 shitfest OMGUSing, which is pretty neutral shit (i.e not scummy nor townie).
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 10 2016 01:59 GMT
#76
On February 10 2016 10:42 Bhaal LoM wrote:
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On February 10 2016 10:29 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
One of you is definitely fecalfeast.

Who is this mortal named fecalfeast? I never heard of him honestly.


This is fecalfeast
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 10 2016 02:46 GMT
#91
On February 10 2016 11:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
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On February 10 2016 10:57 keanuisgod wrote:
Okay, the bubblegum is gone (srs), so let's get to it!

On February 10 2016 10:40 Wartrukk wrote:
So saying you're going to out smurfs, I say I think that's scummy (I still do) and after you go about trying to out smurfs you come back to my post and say "Joke phase lol"

Yeah, I'm the one fabricating reads, right?


I can see trying to out smurfs as a "Palmar-like" plan. After all, meta analysis is a (useful) tool town uses pretty often, and to do that you need to know who you are talking to. For example, if you can figure out an inactive lurker is actually a vet, you'd likely change your stance on him, comparing to you not knowing who he is.
These kind of plans aren't usually "scummy" nor "townie" (though there are some exceptions); they just are, specially in games with special characteristics that allow these kind of plans to emerge (like themed games)

Though I guess it kind of fights against the fun of this kind of game (i.e nobody knowing each other at all throughout all game, allowing shenanigans to happen).

Anyways, this seems like usual D1 shitfest OMGUSing, which is pretty neutral shit (i.e not scummy nor townie).


WHAT
THE
FUCK
ARE YOU EVEN DOING.....
Seriously ritoky, what is the motivation behind this post?
You want to sound smart with your little lectures that DONT EVEN MAKE SENSE? (AFK vets...WAT??)
You want to provide Wartrukk an out from my pressure? Maybe buddy him? Maybe protect your scumbud? What's your angle, pal?


I ... I just wanted to contribute to the current thread situation, posting what I believed made the most sense ;_;

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But srs, dunno, do whatever you want. I believe the juicy D1 will start after this "fight" is settled and the other 5-6 people chime in, there's no hurry.
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 10 2016 03:01 GMT
#96
Considering NNN's recent attempts at smurf-hunting it does seem like it won't produce many useful results, thus allowing scum to smurfhunt on their own in their QT, but confusing the heck out of town (and most likely NNN if he acts on said "smurf reads")
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 10 2016 03:18 GMT
#97
@saitama: What do you think of this OMGUSing stuff from NNN and Wartokk? And their behaviors so far (regarding that)?
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 10 2016 04:28 GMT
#103
Balloon is certainly out of this world, that us mere mortals can't comprehend him
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 10 2016 04:43 GMT
#105
Yes lord Bhaal, my apologies
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 10 2016 04:56 GMT
#107
Right now 5 players (including you) haven't made posts of significance. I feel like it wouldn't be a stretch for 1 or both scum to be in that group.
Of the remaining three that were (somewhat) actively posting (NNN, Warty and saita), for now their conversations felt like regular D1 banter, though some things they did/said can be taken notice for later in the day (to see how they follow up with them). Being active right off the bat in D1 is a plus too, at least if that motivation/activity is followed up in the rest of the game (another thing to take notice of).

And then there's me, a poor little townie trying to make a living in this new smurf world.
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 10 2016 13:18 GMT
#119
On February 10 2016 19:51 unholyflare wrote:
I don't make anything of the arguments that have gone on. I'll return later in case something interesting happened.


Weirdly this does seem to be the default for many people here (maybe myself included). Slow day, huh? Maybe we should start posting plans to random lynch to get the spark going
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 10 2016 16:42 GMT
#136
On February 10 2016 22:51 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
keanuisgod
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On February 10 2016 12:01 keanuisgod wrote:
Considering NNN's recent attempts at smurf-hunting it does seem like it won't produce many useful results, thus allowing scum to smurfhunt on their own in their QT, but confusing the heck out of town (and most likely NNN if he acts on said "smurf reads")

Why would scum want to smurfhunt in their QT?


If I was scum I'd like to know who some of the players are, to better gauge how to react to them, to see if they will be a threat, etc (e.g if it's a vet, or someone that's known to be strong as town and'd be a danger in later cycles, etc).

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On February 10 2016 13:56 keanuisgod wrote:
Right now 5 players (including you) haven't made posts of significance. I feel like it wouldn't be a stretch for 1 or both scum to be in that group.
Of the remaining three that were (somewhat) actively posting (NNN, Warty and saita), for now their conversations felt like regular D1 banter, though some things they did/said can be taken notice for later in the day (to see how they follow up with them). Being active right off the bat in D1 is a plus too, at least if that motivation/activity is followed up in the rest of the game (another thing to take notice of).

And then there's me, a poor little townie trying to make a living in this new smurf world.

Is this a preliminary townread of myself, Wart and Saita? If it is, why not just say that plainly?


I thought doing so would be unnecessary at this point in the game (and D1). But yes, I personally find this kind of attitude in D1 townie. I.e starting to be active right off the bat of the game, throwing around "bad" accusations (without caring how it makes you look like in the thread), etc.
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 10 2016 16:50 GMT
#137
On February 11 2016 01:14 Valdiano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 12:01 keanuisgod wrote:
Considering NNN's recent attempts at smurf-hunting it does seem like it won't produce many useful results, thus allowing scum to smurfhunt on their own in their QT, but confusing the heck out of town (and most likely NNN if he acts on said "smurf reads")


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On February 10 2016 13:56 keanuisgod wrote:
Right now 5 players (including you) haven't made posts of significance. I feel like it wouldn't be a stretch for 1 or both scum to be in that group.
Of the remaining three that were (somewhat) actively posting (NNN, Warty and saita), for now their conversations felt like regular D1 banter, though some things they did/said can be taken notice for later in the day (to see how they follow up with them). Being active right off the bat in D1 is a plus too, at least if that motivation/activity is followed up in the rest of the game (another thing to take notice of).

And then there's me, a poor little townie trying to make a living in this new smurf world.


so there's a few things I don't like about this reading your filter or that I don't understand. You are discussing the effects of nnn's scumhunting in this first quote but you are dismissing it as banter. what makes you think this presumably isn't alignment indicative?


I presume you mean "smurfhunting" there.

Making "plans" or "plays" like these are, IMO, indeed D1 banter, and happen in many games. Rarely have I seen a game where one of these kind of discussions/plans results in anything alignment indicative. Townies could post it because they believe in it or want to stir up discussion, scummers could post them for "free posts". This includes this specific "smurfhunting" situation.
Down the line, both later in this day and later in the game, they will be irrelevant, so I don't really bother paying much attention to them. It's true that there may be some hidden motivations for some of these type of plans in some games that may merit analysis and may give you indications of town or scum motivation ... but it's not really that strong so I think it's better to put effort somewhere else.
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 10 2016 17:38 GMT
#138
NNN, I presume you still think Wartok is scum and will keep your vote on him? Or is this just a pressure thing?
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 10 2016 18:48 GMT
#143
On February 11 2016 01:35 Bhaal LoM wrote:
I actually liking you Vald and might give you a pass for now. I think smurf hunting isn't really useful myself because it will distract us for trying to find scum.


You have any specific thoughts on what Vald posted?
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 10 2016 23:06 GMT
#156
Ok, I'm home now.
Don't really have much to add, but while we're waiting for some people to respond and start posting content might as well add comments about some people:

Initially I was somewhat torn over Valdi's initial posts, in the sense that he may have tried to put a "wall of soft reads" and then leave making it seem like he's contributing, but on second read his 1st post seems quite strong, so I'm leaning slightly town on him based on feels (though I really want to keep him as null in case my first hunch was right).

On February 11 2016 05:33 Wartrukk wrote:
Saitama had a weird early game and I had him as leanscum last night but I haven't read too closely the 30 or so posts from last night.


Adding to this, saitama appeared in the thread with a seemingly aggressive presence that I initially found scummy (as in "this is what an active scum would act"), but he's been having the same consistent behavior throughout the rest of his posts, even when talking about different topics ("how TL scumhunts", "the smurf things", etc), so it feels more genuine (e.g a scum would be more focused on having his aggressiveness disrupt the thread.
It may be just his playstyle though and be NAI, but for now he's slightly townie for me.

Bhaal lom is still in my leanscum pile


I wonder if it's for the same reason I have him as scummy too ... though in retrospect the reason may be a little flimsy (so I'd better wait for him to come and post something first)

Also saita, you have to vote in the voting thread too.
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 10 2016 23:16 GMT
#157
On February 11 2016 07:47 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
What, being a smurf and unable to fall back on some meta got everyone scared?

It's kind of good in that the thread is not being subjected to spam, but there comes a point where as scum I'd totally be lurking right now.


I think there's not much we can do now but try engaging in conversation with the current active players.

saita, what are your thoughts on: Warty and Bhaal?

I have to add on Warty, that on top of the "slight town" feeling I mentioned before, his "half-assed" semi-reads seem to mirror my half-assed semi-reads (except NNN I suppose), which in this abyss of content we call "thread" seems like a good sign (in the "it feels like a fellow townie" deal).

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