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Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 11 2016 23:01 GMT
#285
Hello boys ^^
Didnt read anything and won't be there for a while! Cheers anyway ^^
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 12 2016 20:48 GMT
#339
So we're in MYLO if there is no save during the game. Will read the thread now
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 12 2016 20:58 GMT
#341
On February 13 2016 05:52 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
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On February 13 2016 05:48 Iwasrobik wrote:
So we're in MYLO if there is no save during the game. Will read the thread now


this is gonna be good

Of course!
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 12 2016 21:34 GMT
#348
On February 11 2016 08:55 Bhaal LoM wrote:
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On February 11 2016 08:52 LightningStrike wrote:

Ugh who is this guy? I honestly never heard of him I will be honest about that.

ROFL
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 12 2016 21:34 GMT
#349
On February 13 2016 06:15 Wartrukk wrote:
I can't believe every time i get town I get swamped witg work stuff. Have you figured out valdi's identity, NNN, or is there a case on him that i skipped? Who is iwasrobik is that another replace?

Yep
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 12 2016 21:36 GMT
#350
Good timing keanu ^^
I think you're scum though. You're actually my strongest scumread, maybe something will change my mind during the posts I didn't read but I doubt it
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 12 2016 21:40 GMT
#351
On February 11 2016 09:32 keanuisgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2016 08:37 Bhaal LoM wrote:
I am quite sad that no one is around when I am around


Show nested quote +
On February 11 2016 08:42 Bhaal LoM wrote:
BTW this is me right now:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


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On February 11 2016 09:00 Bhaal LoM wrote:
I honestly not played a game since about I 2013 to be honest lol. Had the meta change on how to play the game?


I'm not sure if posts like this show a poor lost townie out of his depth, or scum faking being "innocent and naive" to forgo posting actual content.

I'll just be straight with my suspicions here:

Bhaal came to the thread roleplaying in a fun and seemingly confident manner, but as soon as he stopped roleplaying he turned into a mess:

Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 23:17 Bhaal LoM wrote:
Okay enough roleplaying for me it time to be a little bit more serious(If you don't know my name is from you prob never played Baldur's Gate or Baldur's Gate 2).
To answer your question nnn:
I was wanting to see if kean can read more into stuff than I could because I sometimes can't read into properly exp when I am tired >.< Also I wanted to see his thoughts at the time given the low activity of the thread >.>


This post is ripe with excuses ("I sometimes can't read into properly when I'm tired") and all the smileys lke ">.<" and ">.>" which serve little purpose other than appear like an innocent playful townie. It also shows an unnatural fear to respond a normal question saita asked him (like saita asked everybody). The reaction is odd and scummy

Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 13:47 Bhaal LoM wrote:
Good now tell me who you think could be a child of mine(scum) and why?


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On February 10 2016 14:11 Bhaal LoM wrote:
On February 10 2016 13:56 keanuisgod wrote:
Right now 5 players (including you) haven't made posts of significance. I feel like it wouldn't be a stretch for 1 or both scum to be in that group.
Of the remaining three that were (somewhat) actively posting (NNN, Warty and saita), for now their conversations felt like regular D1 banter, though some things they did/said can be taken notice for later in the day (to see how they follow up with them). Being active right off the bat in D1 is a plus too, at least if that motivation/activity is followed up in the rest of the game (another thing to take notice of).

And then there's me, a poor little townie trying to make a living in this new smurf world.

Fair enough Mortal but considering the fact this game is rather slow paced atm because no one is really posting and I more of a analytical God when it comes to finding my children(scum). When more mortals enter the thread/talk more I will try to find my children(scum). If this helps their name is Imoen and Sarevok.


The response he gave saita about why he pressured me doesn't seem to make much sense with what he actually posted. When I noticed his question, I got the feeling he wanted me to post some content and reads. His response seemed to confirm this, with the "Fair enough Mortal" (making it seem he was satisfied with my response).
But later in his response to saita he says he only asked my for my reads so he could piggybank them since he "can't read properly when he's tired"?
But what about "being the analytical God when it comes to find scum"? Was that a lie that only existed in "role-playing-mode"?

I said previously this scumread was flimsy BECAUSE of the roleplay. Maybe, for some reason, town Bhaal got all confident and funny and stuff and acted like that, but when he stopped roleplaying the situation overwhelmed him or something and this is how he normally plays.

But it still feels weird. He keeps apologizing (here) and just throwing casual "cheery" posts. Yet he has actually to post any actual content at all, even when asked by many people.

Might as well start somewhere, fuck it

#Vote: Bhaal LoM

P.S: I'm not really confident in this read, mainly because I have a gut feeling in my stomach that Bhaal is just clueless town and this is all a misunderstanding, and also I'm a little pussy and I don't want to commit to a 100% scum read this early into the day. But whatever, we have to start somewhere and this is the best lead I've got, after the 3 inactive dudes

Wow. Scum.
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 12 2016 22:00 GMT
#354
Town:
Kush
Saimata

Probably town:
Wartruk

Maybe town:
Gargamel

Scum:
Keanu
Valdiano

Will explain in a little bit when I'm in front of my laptop
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 12 2016 23:31 GMT
#373
On February 13 2016 08:06 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
wow interesting nk

Seemed obvious to me, you were the obvious prot and saitama was also very likely town. Right prot too, I would have raged if you died.
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 13 2016 00:03 GMT
#378
Valdiano is scum because he spent he has like 2 lines of him scumhunting. The rest is just pretty words that looks townie. But if you read his filter, it's either "comment that looks good but doesn't add anything", "I don't understand this" or "this could come from town or scum".

I started to make a list of each, but I'll do a reverse list actually, 'cause the other way is too long. Actual scumhunt in Valdiano filter:
On February 11 2016 01:06 Valdiano wrote:
doublechecked saita's filter to make sure I didn't miss anything from conversation but there's nothing alignment indicative from it that could have applied to that last post.

although I do get an impression of posting just to post, reading his filter.

there were opportunities I think in 1-2 posts where he could have taken a stance on nnn/war

going to say a scumlean for now.

On February 11 2016 01:07 Valdiano wrote:
ebwop - there were opportunities in 1-2 posts where he could have taken a stance on nnn/war and he didn't.

On February 11 2016 23:31 Valdiano wrote:
if I had to lynch any of the severely low content posters for uselessness right now, I'd say that 77Gold would "win" over unholyflare, if only for unholyflare making that one slight observation.

The rest of the lines are one of the three things described above.

+

No interest in the lynch whatsoever.

+

It's not helped by the fact that his tone is very detached and not emotionally invested. This is super weak 'cause depending on the player it could mean anything; but it's not town indicative in general.
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 13 2016 00:07 GMT
#380
On February 13 2016 08:53 keanuisgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2016 08:31 Iwasrobik wrote:
On February 13 2016 08:06 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
wow interesting nk

Seemed obvious to me, you were the obvious prot and saitama was also very likely town. Right prot too, I would have raged if you died.


You seem pretty sure about that. Do you have any info we don't?

Show nested quote +
I would have raged if you died


Nice to see you got invested in the game that fast. Hopefully it continues

Either call me scum or don't. If you do, explain why I posted these as scum. This kind of attacks don't help solve the game.
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 13 2016 00:08 GMT
#382
Damn I looked at a post posted by this guy "Iwasrobik" and I was like "wow that really looks like what I just posted" ^^
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 13 2016 00:14 GMT
#384
On February 13 2016 09:06 Wartrukk wrote:
So on first read I hate gargamel and want him to be died. He quite obviously cares less about this game than I do and that's just fucked

I had a townread on him for some reason reading the thread. Let's see why.
On February 10 2016 12:26 GargamelxD wrote:
cant really take any posts seriously so far, no analysis possible becouse it still seems like standard banter

I first had a scumread for this post.
On February 11 2016 15:57 GargamelxD wrote:
he could be SL maybe, either that or ls

either way i think goldrom is VA and i want to kill him with fire

##Vote 77Goldrom

Oh yeah, he was one of the first to take a firm stance for the lynch. Town points.
On February 11 2016 21:45 GargamelxD wrote:
i dont see any issues with unholy as he just postponed his actual play which i also did, and his entrance wasnt as awkward as roms. he actually took interest into what was happening and gave a bit of his opinion on smurf hunting.

in rom you have a guy who apologizes for being late, claims his role, asks about the latest news and in the next post acts like he doesnt care.

Not scumreading me when I was an easy ML.
+
Having strong opinions in his few posts.

Not confirmed town but likely IMO.
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 13 2016 00:16 GMT
#385
On February 13 2016 09:12 keanuisgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2016 09:07 Iwasrobik wrote:
On February 13 2016 08:53 keanuisgod wrote:
On February 13 2016 08:31 Iwasrobik wrote:
On February 13 2016 08:06 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
wow interesting nk

Seemed obvious to me, you were the obvious prot and saitama was also very likely town. Right prot too, I would have raged if you died.


You seem pretty sure about that. Do you have any info we don't?

I would have raged if you died


Nice to see you got invested in the game that fast. Hopefully it continues

Either call me scum or don't. If you do, explain why I posted these as scum. This kind of attacks don't help solve the game.


I won't call you anything until you've finished reading the thread and doing what you are going to do

As for the specific comment, it makes it seem like you know more than you should. At least considering this is your first "real" entrance into the game, so things being "obvious" and "I would have raged if X had died" feel totally out of place.

Finished reading the game a while ago, when I made my list. Now I'm on a comp though.
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 13 2016 00:21 GMT
#389
On February 13 2016 09:18 Wartrukk wrote:
I'll buy that. Valdiano kinda won me over when he was posting because it was content for me to read. robik do you think valdiano is the most likely scum now or is your top scummer still keanu?

Need to read keanu's filter before deciding this.
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 13 2016 00:49 GMT
#393
On February 13 2016 09:33 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
robik why is keanu scum? I didn't notice anything scummy about him.

I LOST MY POST EXPLAINING WHY AND I FUCKING HAVE TO RETYPE IT AND I HAVE TO GO SOON
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 13 2016 01:15 GMT
#395
Kaenu is scum because:

His early game. Almost only jokes, which is only a smaaaaall scum indicator. Scum indicator nonetheless 'cause stuff was happening, namely kush publicly saying he was smurfhunting (small town indicator for driving discussion + being in the spotlight) and wartruk attacking him for that (good town indicator for attacking the loudest guy in the thread). Even if you disagree with my conclusions, the info was there to make serious posts.

But kaenu made jokes AND these two posts:
On February 10 2016 10:57 keanuisgod wrote:
Okay, the bubblegum is gone (srs), so let's get to it!

Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 10:40 Wartrukk wrote:
So saying you're going to out smurfs, I say I think that's scummy (I still do) and after you go about trying to out smurfs you come back to my post and say "Joke phase lol"

Yeah, I'm the one fabricating reads, right?


I can see trying to out smurfs as a "Palmar-like" plan. After all, meta analysis is a (useful) tool town uses pretty often, and to do that you need to know who you are talking to. For example, if you can figure out an inactive lurker is actually a vet, you'd likely change your stance on him, comparing to you not knowing who he is.
These kind of plans aren't usually "scummy" nor "townie" (though there are some exceptions); they just are, specially in games with special characteristics that allow these kind of plans to emerge (like themed games)

Though I guess it kind of fights against the fun of this kind of game (i.e nobody knowing each other at all throughout all game, allowing shenanigans to happen).

Anyways, this seems like usual D1 shitfest OMGUSing, which is pretty neutral shit (i.e not scummy nor townie).

Nothing was said in this post. It's only fluff that appears townie, at a time when kaenu probably felt the need to post something serious but didn't want to take position.
On February 10 2016 12:01 keanuisgod wrote:
Considering NNN's recent attempts at smurf-hunting it does seem like it won't produce many useful results, thus allowing scum to smurfhunt on their own in their QT, but confusing the heck out of town (and most likely NNN if he acts on said "smurf reads")

And this post, which call kush scum without calling him scum for an extremely bad reason.

Joking around when he could have try to solve the game + even his serious posts are non-commital => scum indicator.

His case on LS
+ Show Spoiler +

On February 11 2016 09:32 keanuisgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2016 08:37 Bhaal LoM wrote:
I am quite sad that no one is around when I am around


Show nested quote +
On February 11 2016 08:42 Bhaal LoM wrote:
BTW this is me right now:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Show nested quote +
On February 11 2016 09:00 Bhaal LoM wrote:
I honestly not played a game since about I 2013 to be honest lol. Had the meta change on how to play the game?


I'm not sure if posts like this show a poor lost townie out of his depth, or scum faking being "innocent and naive" to forgo posting actual content.

I'll just be straight with my suspicions here:

Bhaal came to the thread roleplaying in a fun and seemingly confident manner, but as soon as he stopped roleplaying he turned into a mess:

Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 23:17 Bhaal LoM wrote:
Okay enough roleplaying for me it time to be a little bit more serious(If you don't know my name is from you prob never played Baldur's Gate or Baldur's Gate 2).
To answer your question nnn:
I was wanting to see if kean can read more into stuff than I could because I sometimes can't read into properly exp when I am tired >.< Also I wanted to see his thoughts at the time given the low activity of the thread >.>


This post is ripe with excuses ("I sometimes can't read into properly when I'm tired") and all the smileys lke ">.<" and ">.>" which serve little purpose other than appear like an innocent playful townie. It also shows an unnatural fear to respond a normal question saita asked him (like saita asked everybody). The reaction is odd and scummy

Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 13:47 Bhaal LoM wrote:
Good now tell me who you think could be a child of mine(scum) and why?


Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 14:11 Bhaal LoM wrote:
On February 10 2016 13:56 keanuisgod wrote:
Right now 5 players (including you) haven't made posts of significance. I feel like it wouldn't be a stretch for 1 or both scum to be in that group.
Of the remaining three that were (somewhat) actively posting (NNN, Warty and saita), for now their conversations felt like regular D1 banter, though some things they did/said can be taken notice for later in the day (to see how they follow up with them). Being active right off the bat in D1 is a plus too, at least if that motivation/activity is followed up in the rest of the game (another thing to take notice of).

And then there's me, a poor little townie trying to make a living in this new smurf world.

Fair enough Mortal but considering the fact this game is rather slow paced atm because no one is really posting and I more of a analytical God when it comes to finding my children(scum). When more mortals enter the thread/talk more I will try to find my children(scum). If this helps their name is Imoen and Sarevok.


The response he gave saita about why he pressured me doesn't seem to make much sense with what he actually posted. When I noticed his question, I got the feeling he wanted me to post some content and reads. His response seemed to confirm this, with the "Fair enough Mortal" (making it seem he was satisfied with my response).
But later in his response to saita he says he only asked my for my reads so he could piggybank them since he "can't read properly when he's tired"?
But what about "being the analytical God when it comes to find scum"? Was that a lie that only existed in "role-playing-mode"?

I said previously this scumread was flimsy BECAUSE of the roleplay. Maybe, for some reason, town Bhaal got all confident and funny and stuff and acted like that, but when he stopped roleplaying the situation overwhelmed him or something and this is how he normally plays.

But it still feels weird. He keeps apologizing (here) and just throwing casual "cheery" posts. Yet he has actually to post any actual content at all, even when asked by many people.

Might as well start somewhere, fuck it

#Vote: Bhaal LoM

P.S: I'm not really confident in this read, mainly because I have a gut feeling in my stomach that Bhaal is just clueless town and this is all a misunderstanding, and also I'm a little pussy and I don't want to commit to a 100% scum read this early into the day. But whatever, we have to start somewhere and this is the best lead I've got, after the 3 inactive dudes


Two things.
First, this read is plagued with maybes and doubtfulness. Kaenu absolutely doesn't believe in his case, but voted anyway because "fuck it".
Second, the reasonning as to why LS could be scum COULD BE APPLIED TO KAENU HIMSELF. When he said LS kept throwing "cheery" posts, KAENU KEPT THROWING JOKING POST. This is the worst:

This post is ripe with excuses ("I sometimes can't read into properly when I'm tired") and all the smileys lke ">.<" and ">.>" which serve little purpose other than appear like an innocent playful townie. It also shows an unnatural fear to respond a normal question saita asked him (like saita asked everybody). The reaction is odd and scummy

Read the above carefully and compare with this kaenu post:
On February 10 2016 11:46 keanuisgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 11:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On February 10 2016 10:57 keanuisgod wrote:
Okay, the bubblegum is gone (srs), so let's get to it!

On February 10 2016 10:40 Wartrukk wrote:
So saying you're going to out smurfs, I say I think that's scummy (I still do) and after you go about trying to out smurfs you come back to my post and say "Joke phase lol"

Yeah, I'm the one fabricating reads, right?


I can see trying to out smurfs as a "Palmar-like" plan. After all, meta analysis is a (useful) tool town uses pretty often, and to do that you need to know who you are talking to. For example, if you can figure out an inactive lurker is actually a vet, you'd likely change your stance on him, comparing to you not knowing who he is.
These kind of plans aren't usually "scummy" nor "townie" (though there are some exceptions); they just are, specially in games with special characteristics that allow these kind of plans to emerge (like themed games)

Though I guess it kind of fights against the fun of this kind of game (i.e nobody knowing each other at all throughout all game, allowing shenanigans to happen).

Anyways, this seems like usual D1 shitfest OMGUSing, which is pretty neutral shit (i.e not scummy nor townie).


WHAT
THE
FUCK
ARE YOU EVEN DOING.....
Seriously ritoky, what is the motivation behind this post?
You want to sound smart with your little lectures that DONT EVEN MAKE SENSE? (AFK vets...WAT??)
You want to provide Wartrukk an out from my pressure? Maybe buddy him? Maybe protect your scumbud? What's your angle, pal?


I ... I just wanted to contribute to the current thread situation, posting what I believed made the most sense ;_;

[image loading]

But srs, dunno, do whatever you want. I believe the juicy D1 will start after this "fight" is settled and the other 5-6 people chime in, there's no hurry.

Yep. Kaenu did exactly what he scumread LS for doing.

To resume, kaenu doesn't believe in his case and his reasons for scumreading LS are non-believable => scum indicator.
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 13 2016 01:16 GMT
#396
On February 13 2016 10:00 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2016 09:49 Iwasrobik wrote:
On February 13 2016 09:33 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
robik why is keanu scum? I didn't notice anything scummy about him.

I LOST MY POST EXPLAINING WHY AND I FUCKING HAVE TO RETYPE IT AND I HAVE TO GO SOON


i dont need a wot

But you got it bro.
I'm pretty sure these two are scum, 'cause there are scummy + the other players are townie.
+ this post:
On February 11 2016 08:06 keanuisgod wrote:
Ok, I'm home now.
Don't really have much to add, but while we're waiting for some people to respond and start posting content might as well add comments about some people:

Initially I was somewhat torn over Valdi's initial posts, in the sense that he may have tried to put a "wall of soft reads" and then leave making it seem like he's contributing, but on second read his 1st post seems quite strong, so I'm leaning slightly town on him based on feels (though I really want to keep him as null in case my first hunch was right).

Is partner indicative of the two.
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 13 2016 01:20 GMT
#397
To finish quickly before leaving:
kush is town 'cause he is the the main force behind discussion in this game, and scum has an hard time doing that; and kush is a pretty lazy scum.
Wartruk is (probably) town 'cause of his attack on kush very early, when kush is the main force behind discussion blablabla, and thus a pretty bad target to attack for scum. And his posts EOD1 are way too obviously bad for scums to make I think, I'm wary of that one but that's what I think.

I think I have everyone ? The two scums, I explained why gargamed was maybe town above. Pretty sure kaenu and Valdia are the 2 scums.
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 13 2016 01:21 GMT
#398
##Vote Valdiano
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